Anonymous wrote:Before we allow men to become fathers, I feel it’s crucial they participate; really participate in a group like this one:

https://www.gq.com/story/inside-a-group-where-men-confront-their-feelings

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Anonymous wrote:I’m still unclear as to definitions.

What is masculinity? And where is the line at which it becomes toxic?

There are myriad manifestations of toxic masculinity. Just google around for examples.

Anonymous wrote:I’m still unclear as to definitions.

What is masculinity? And where is the line at which it becomes toxic?

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Anonymous wrote:I still feel there is value in educating girls to recognize and avoid men who display the telltale signs of toxic masculinity.

Nevertheless, the onus is clearly on men to change/alter/correct their behaviors. Western culture defines specific characteristics to fit the patriarchal ideal masculine construct. The socialization of masculine ideals starts in boys’ at a young age and defines ideal masculinity as related to toughness, stoicism, heterosexism, self-sufficient attitudes and lack of emotional sensitivity and of connectedness. Boys learn to be men from the men in their lives, from their own experiences navigating our social norms, and from the large social and cultural context. Boys live under intensified pressure to display so-called gender-appropriate behaviors according to an anachronistic ideal male code.

Looking at the development of aggression throughout childhood, we know that not only do aggressive behaviors can emerge at an early age, they also tend to persist over time, without early prevention intervention. The socialization of the male characteristics mentioned above also onsets at an early age making it a prime time-period for prevention intervention.

What specific parenting techniques can we turn employ, to thwart toxic masculinity?

But you think girls / people can tell the difference between being a strong protective male and being a toxic male. There pinkies the problem.

Women will be blamed for not being clairvoyant and knowing because Larlo was an “athlete” or “hunted” or “had 2 divorced parents and watched a lot of football” or did “MMA” of course he 30 years later would smack her in an argument or cheat. “So many red flags” and… it’s bullshit. The red flag/green flag BS is gaslighting young women into believing they can predict future behavior. You can’t.

On the most basic of levels, I think we can all agree: if a man hunts animals or watches MMA, both are huge, obvious, red-flags.

Ridiculous. Ridiculous and stupid. My H not only hunts and watches MMA fighting, but is a former MMA fighter himself, in addition to being a US Army Ranger and combat veteran with three Purple Hearts. Are those red flags, too?


Seriously, women are our own worst enemies.

Sorry, not sorry. All of those are huge gigantic RED FLAGS for toxic masculinity. They just are.

NP

And you are a giant walking, talking red flag for being an exhausting, insufferable bore. Your strung-together words and gobbledygook aren’t significant or compelling in any way. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

You forgot to wish that God have mercy on the soul of her cats. Over the years, she will tend to lose 10 to 20 cats as most cats have a 15 year life span.

NP.
Hi, J.D. Vance. Didn't you get flamed all over Twitter for using cats to make stupid stereotype jokes? As a cat owner I am offended, double offended since it was my male child's toxic masculinity that bullied us into getting those kittens

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Anonymous wrote:I still feel there is value in educating girls to recognize and avoid men who display the telltale signs of toxic masculinity.

Nevertheless, the onus is clearly on men to change/alter/correct their behaviors. Western culture defines specific characteristics to fit the patriarchal ideal masculine construct. The socialization of masculine ideals starts in boys’ at a young age and defines ideal masculinity as related to toughness, stoicism, heterosexism, self-sufficient attitudes and lack of emotional sensitivity and of connectedness. Boys learn to be men from the men in their lives, from their own experiences navigating our social norms, and from the large social and cultural context. Boys live under intensified pressure to display so-called gender-appropriate behaviors according to an anachronistic ideal male code.

Looking at the development of aggression throughout childhood, we know that not only do aggressive behaviors can emerge at an early age, they also tend to persist over time, without early prevention intervention. The socialization of the male characteristics mentioned above also onsets at an early age making it a prime time-period for prevention intervention.

What specific parenting techniques can we turn employ, to thwart toxic masculinity?

But you think girls / people can tell the difference between being a strong protective male and being a toxic male. There pinkies the problem.

Women will be blamed for not being clairvoyant and knowing because Larlo was an “athlete” or “hunted” or “had 2 divorced parents and watched a lot of football” or did “MMA” of course he 30 years later would smack her in an argument or cheat. “So many red flags” and… it’s bullshit. The red flag/green flag BS is gaslighting young women into believing they can predict future behavior. You can’t.

On the most basic of levels, I think we can all agree: if a man hunts animals or watches MMA, both are huge, obvious, red-flags.

Ridiculous. Ridiculous and stupid. My H not only hunts and watches MMA fighting, but is a former MMA fighter himself, in addition to being a US Army Ranger and combat veteran with three Purple Hearts. Are those red flags, too?


Seriously, women are our own worst enemies.

Sorry, not sorry. All of those are huge gigantic RED FLAGS for toxic masculinity. They just are.

NP

And you are a giant walking, talking red flag for being an exhausting, insufferable bore. Your strung-together words and gobbledygook aren’t significant or compelling in any way. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

You forgot to wish that God have mercy on the soul of her cats. Over the years, she will tend to lose 10 to 20 cats as most cats have a 15 year life span.

NP.
Hi, J.D. Vance. Didn't you get flamed all over Twitter for using cats to make stupid stereotype jokes? As a cat owner I am offended, double offended since it was my male child's toxic masculinity that bullied us into getting those kittens

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Anonymous wrote:I still feel there is value in educating girls to recognize and avoid men who display the telltale signs of toxic masculinity.

Nevertheless, the onus is clearly on men to change/alter/correct their behaviors. Western culture defines specific characteristics to fit the patriarchal ideal masculine construct. The socialization of masculine ideals starts in boys’ at a young age and defines ideal masculinity as related to toughness, stoicism, heterosexism, self-sufficient attitudes and lack of emotional sensitivity and of connectedness. Boys learn to be men from the men in their lives, from their own experiences navigating our social norms, and from the large social and cultural context. Boys live under intensified pressure to display so-called gender-appropriate behaviors according to an anachronistic ideal male code.

Looking at the development of aggression throughout childhood, we know that not only do aggressive behaviors can emerge at an early age, they also tend to persist over time, without early prevention intervention. The socialization of the male characteristics mentioned above also onsets at an early age making it a prime time-period for prevention intervention.

What specific parenting techniques can we turn employ, to thwart toxic masculinity?

But you think girls / people can tell the difference between being a strong protective male and being a toxic male. There pinkies the problem.

Women will be blamed for not being clairvoyant and knowing because Larlo was an “athlete” or “hunted” or “had 2 divorced parents and watched a lot of football” or did “MMA” of course he 30 years later would smack her in an argument or cheat. “So many red flags” and… it’s bullshit. The red flag/green flag BS is gaslighting young women into believing they can predict future behavior. You can’t.

On the most basic of levels, I think we can all agree: if a man hunts animals or watches MMA, both are huge, obvious, red-flags.

Ridiculous. Ridiculous and stupid. My H not only hunts and watches MMA fighting, but is a former MMA fighter himself, in addition to being a US Army Ranger and combat veteran with three Purple Hearts. Are those red flags, too?


Seriously, women are our own worst enemies.

Sorry, not sorry. All of those are huge gigantic RED FLAGS for toxic masculinity. They just are.

NP

And you are a giant walking, talking red flag for being an exhausting, insufferable bore. Your strung-together words and gobbledygook aren’t significant or compelling in any way. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

You forgot to wish that God have mercy on the soul of her cats. Over the years, she will tend to lose 10 to 20 cats as most cats have a 15 year life span.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m still unclear as to definitions.

What is masculinity? And where is the line at which it becomes toxic?

According to this crowd?

“Masculine traits” for DCUM: Crying. Wearing pajamas to lunch. Spending more on hair products than their spouse. Ability to spot counterfeit handbags at a glance. 7 figure portfolio. Ivy MBA. Mani-Pedi weekly. Avowed communist. Vegan.

“Toxic” Masculine traits for DCUM: hunting anything. eating animals. Owning a gun. Ability to change their own tire. Opens doors for women or older people. Calls women “ma’am”. Goes fishing. Carries a pocket knife. Has been in a fight at some point in their life. Tells his son to stop crying, rub some dirt on a scrape, and get back in the game. Doesn’t own a pussyhat.

Oh puh-leese! Real men are feminists.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m still unclear as to definitions.

What is masculinity? And where is the line at which it becomes toxic?

According to this crowd?

“Masculine traits” for DCUM: Crying. Wearing pajamas to lunch. Spending more on hair products than their spouse. Ability to spot counterfeit handbags at a glance. 7 figure portfolio. Ivy MBA. Mani-Pedi weekly. Avowed communist. Vegan.

“Toxic” Masculine traits for DCUM: hunting anything. eating animals. Owning a gun. Ability to change their own tire. Opens doors for women or older people. Calls women “ma’am”. Goes fishing. Carries a pocket knife. Has been in a fight at some point in their life. Tells his son to stop crying, rub some dirt on a scrape, and get back in the game. Doesn’t own a pussyhat.

Anonymous wrote:I’m still unclear as to definitions.

What is masculinity? And where is the line at which it becomes toxic?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I still feel there is value in educating girls to recognize and avoid men who display the telltale signs of toxic masculinity.

Nevertheless, the onus is clearly on men to change/alter/correct their behaviors. Western culture defines specific characteristics to fit the patriarchal ideal masculine construct. The socialization of masculine ideals starts in boys’ at a young age and defines ideal masculinity as related to toughness, stoicism, heterosexism, self-sufficient attitudes and lack of emotional sensitivity and of connectedness. Boys learn to be men from the men in their lives, from their own experiences navigating our social norms, and from the large social and cultural context. Boys live under intensified pressure to display so-called gender-appropriate behaviors according to an anachronistic ideal male code.

Looking at the development of aggression throughout childhood, we know that not only do aggressive behaviors can emerge at an early age, they also tend to persist over time, without early prevention intervention. The socialization of the male characteristics mentioned above also onsets at an early age making it a prime time-period for prevention intervention.

What specific parenting techniques can we turn employ, to thwart toxic masculinity?

But you think girls / people can tell the difference between being a strong protective male and being a toxic male. There pinkies the problem.

Women will be blamed for not being clairvoyant and knowing because Larlo was an “athlete” or “hunted” or “had 2 divorced parents and watched a lot of football” or did “MMA” of course he 30 years later would smack her in an argument or cheat. “So many red flags” and… it’s bullshit. The red flag/green flag BS is gaslighting young women into believing they can predict future behavior. You can’t.

On the most basic of levels, I think we can all agree: if a man hunts animals or watches MMA, both are huge, obvious, red-flags.

Ridiculous. Ridiculous and stupid. My H not only hunts and watches MMA fighting, but is a former MMA fighter himself, in addition to being a US Army Ranger and combat veteran with three Purple Hearts. Are those red flags, too?


Seriously, women are our own worst enemies.

Sorry, not sorry. All of those are huge gigantic RED FLAGS for toxic masculinity. They just are.

NP

And you are a giant walking, talking red flag for being an exhausting, insufferable bore. Your strung-together words and gobbledygook aren’t significant or compelling in any way. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.