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Anonymous wrote:Spouse has a Ph.D. from Harvard, I have a J.D. and joint M.B.A. from a T10. We have a DC in 2nd grade at a private. If DC doesn't get into a, say, T50, it will be because we the parents screwed up or because the DC screwed up. It won't be because of black applicants or because of affirmative action or because it was always "impossible."

It wasn't always impossible. It is now. I am glad you don't realize this - you should not be thinking about college admissions with a 2nd grader. By the time they are a teen, you'll find out what college admissions is actually like at the most elite schools, and at some point you'll make peace with it. Apparently, that day is not today.

It's apparently not impossible for the tens of thousands who get into T50's every year. It's only impossible for the mediocre DC's.

The problem is the tens of thousands with the same scores, grades and activities that were rejected because there weren’t enough spots.

I don’t know anyone with a 4.5gpa and 1550 getting shut out of all T50 schools. Sure, he may not get into Harvard but he got into Georgia tech or Boston university or Purdue.

This part of the conversation started with someone talking about how "1 in 20 kids get into Harvard and if you don't you're just mediocre." And then it started expanding to Ivies or HYP or "top schools." That is very different from saying, well I can at least get into BU. It's not controversial that if you work really hard, you can go to some top 50 School. But every time someone explains what the college admissions landscape is today, the standards get lower.

Now people are saying in the future, it will be impossible for kids to get into T50 schools because of international students.

Nobody is saying "it will impossible" only that "over time, it could become very difficult" getting into T50. Maybe it won't. But don't count on anything especially if your kid is in elementary.

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Anonymous wrote:Spouse has a Ph.D. from Harvard, I have a J.D. and joint M.B.A. from a T10. We have a DC in 2nd grade at a private. If DC doesn't get into a, say, T50, it will be because we the parents screwed up or because the DC screwed up. It won't be because of black applicants or because of affirmative action or because it was always "impossible."

It wasn't always impossible. It is now. I am glad you don't realize this - you should not be thinking about college admissions with a 2nd grader. By the time they are a teen, you'll find out what college admissions is actually like at the most elite schools, and at some point you'll make peace with it. Apparently, that day is not today.

It's apparently not impossible for the tens of thousands who get into T50's every year. It's only impossible for the mediocre DC's.

The problem is the tens of thousands with the same scores, grades and activities that were rejected because there weren’t enough spots.

I don’t know anyone with a 4.5gpa and 1550 getting shut out of all T50 schools. Sure, he may not get into Harvard but he got into Georgia tech or Boston university or Purdue.

This part of the conversation started with someone talking about how "1 in 20 kids get into Harvard and if you don't you're just mediocre." And then it started expanding to Ivies or HYP or "top schools." That is very different from saying, well I can at least get into BU. It's not controversial that if you work really hard, you can go to some top 50 School. But every time someone explains what the college admissions landscape is today, the standards get lower.

Now people are saying in the future, it will be impossible for kids to get into T50 schools because of international students.

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Anonymous wrote:Please don't "position" your kids, extracurricular-wise, from elementary school. Let them try things and discover their passions. If your kid is going to be a sports star or a prima ballerina, they will do it from passion and not college entrance. In terms of college admissions, there's plenty of time to have them build a coherent set of activities from 8th or 9th grade. (You won't report anything before 9th grade, anyway.)

What if my kid won national awards (for history, which relates to her major of law) in 7th and 8th grades? Can she put that on there?

No, you can't put anything before 9th grade.

Anonymous wrote:Please don't "position" your kids, extracurricular-wise, from elementary school. Let them try things and discover their passions. If your kid is going to be a sports star or a prima ballerina, they will do it from passion and not college entrance. In terms of college admissions, there's plenty of time to have them build a coherent set of activities from 8th or 9th grade. (You won't report anything before 9th grade, anyway.)

What if my kid won national awards (for history, which relates to her major of law) in 7th and 8th grades? Can she put that on there?

Anonymous wrote:1) move to an obscure state
2) divorce your husband and get a low paying job
3) “cut contact” with ex husband when kid is in HS and switch to cash child support so that there’s no trace
4) have a sob story about overcoming obstacles
5) have a perfect gpa, sat, solid extracurriculars or claim that the child was required to support the family and have some work on their resume
6) be an underrepresented minority

Boom! You are in a good school all expense paid

Yes, poor black people are the reason your DC is failing, your DC's failures have nothing to do with their parents. 👍

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Anonymous wrote:Spouse has a Ph.D. from Harvard, I have a J.D. and joint M.B.A. from a T10. We have a DC in 2nd grade at a private. If DC doesn't get into a, say, T50, it will be because we the parents screwed up or because the DC screwed up. It won't be because of black applicants or because of affirmative action or because it was always "impossible."

It wasn't always impossible. It is now. I am glad you don't realize this - you should not be thinking about college admissions with a 2nd grader. By the time they are a teen, you'll find out what college admissions is actually like at the most elite schools, and at some point you'll make peace with it. Apparently, that day is not today.

It's apparently not impossible for the tens of thousands who get into T50's every year. It's only impossible for the mediocre DC's.

The problem is the tens of thousands with the same scores, grades and activities that were rejected because there weren’t enough spots.

I don’t know anyone with a 4.5gpa and 1550 getting shut out of all T50 schools. Sure, he may not get into Harvard but he got into Georgia tech or Boston university or Purdue.

This part of the conversation started with someone talking about how "1 in 20 kids get into Harvard and if you don't you're just mediocre." And then it started expanding to Ivies or HYP or "top schools." That is very different from saying, well I can at least get into BU. It's not controversial that if you work really hard, you can go to some top 50 School. But every time someone explains what the college admissions landscape is today, the standards get lower.

1) move to an obscure state
2) divorce your husband and get a low paying job
3) “cut contact” with ex husband when kid is in HS and switch to cash child support so that there’s no trace
4) have a sob story about overcoming obstacles
5) have a perfect gpa, sat, solid extracurriculars or claim that the child was required to support the family and have some work on their resume
6) be an underrepresented minority

Boom! You are in a good school all expense paid

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Anonymous wrote:Spouse has a Ph.D. from Harvard, I have a J.D. and joint M.B.A. from a T10. We have a DC in 2nd grade at a private. If DC doesn't get into a, say, T50, it will be because we the parents screwed up or because the DC screwed up. It won't be because of black applicants or because of affirmative action or because it was always "impossible."

It wasn't always impossible. It is now. I am glad you don't realize this - you should not be thinking about college admissions with a 2nd grader. By the time they are a teen, you'll find out what college admissions is actually like at the most elite schools, and at some point you'll make peace with it. Apparently, that day is not today.

It's apparently not impossible for the tens of thousands who get into T50's every year. It's only impossible for the mediocre DC's.

The problem is the tens of thousands with the same scores, grades and activities that were rejected because there weren’t enough spots.

I don’t know anyone with a 4.5gpa and 1550 getting shut out of all T50 schools. Sure, he may not get into Harvard but he got into Georgia tech or Boston university or Purdue.

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Anonymous wrote:Spouse has a Ph.D. from Harvard, I have a J.D. and joint M.B.A. from a T10. We have a DC in 2nd grade at a private. If DC doesn't get into a, say, T50, it will be because we the parents screwed up or because the DC screwed up. It won't be because of black applicants or because of affirmative action or because it was always "impossible."

It wasn't always impossible. It is now. I am glad you don't realize this - you should not be thinking about college admissions with a 2nd grader. By the time they are a teen, you'll find out what college admissions is actually like at the most elite schools, and at some point you'll make peace with it. Apparently, that day is not today.

It's apparently not impossible for the tens of thousands who get into T50's every year. It's only impossible for the mediocre DC's.

The problem is the tens of thousands with the same scores, grades and activities that were rejected because there weren’t enough spots.

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Anonymous wrote:Spouse has a Ph.D. from Harvard, I have a J.D. and joint M.B.A. from a T10. We have a DC in 2nd grade at a private. If DC doesn't get into a, say, T50, it will be because we the parents screwed up or because the DC screwed up. It won't be because of black applicants or because of affirmative action or because it was always "impossible."

It wasn't always impossible. It is now. I am glad you don't realize this - you should not be thinking about college admissions with a 2nd grader. By the time they are a teen, you'll find out what college admissions is actually like at the most elite schools, and at some point you'll make peace with it. Apparently, that day is not today.

It's apparently not impossible for the tens of thousands who get into T50's every year. It's only impossible for the mediocre DC's.

People keep saying that much of these classes are made up of first generation students, underrepresented minorities, athletes, etc etc and if you're not in that category, yes it's nearly impossible. What are you not getting about that? Watch some college decision reaction videos on YouTube, the ones that include stats. Then come back and tell us that those kids that are rejected from all T20s are "mediocre." The kids with 1550s and 4.0s and a million APs and impressive ECs. Until then, kindly shut your mouth.

Yes, blame your failures on the black kids. Great way to raise a child and assure that they don't fail.

What? I'm not against affirmative action. If you don't understand that your chances are harder if you are white or an overrepresented minority, you are ignorant, don't understand math, or both.

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Anonymous wrote:Spouse has a Ph.D. from Harvard, I have a J.D. and joint M.B.A. from a T10. We have a DC in 2nd grade at a private. If DC doesn't get into a, say, T50, it will be because we the parents screwed up or because the DC screwed up. It won't be because of black applicants or because of affirmative action or because it was always "impossible."

It wasn't always impossible. It is now. I am glad you don't realize this - you should not be thinking about college admissions with a 2nd grader. By the time they are a teen, you'll find out what college admissions is actually like at the most elite schools, and at some point you'll make peace with it. Apparently, that day is not today.

It's apparently not impossible for the tens of thousands who get into T50's every year. It's only impossible for the mediocre DC's.

People keep saying that much of these classes are made up of first generation students, underrepresented minorities, athletes, etc etc and if you're not in that category, yes it's nearly impossible. What are you not getting about that? Watch some college decision reaction videos on YouTube, the ones that include stats. Then come back and tell us that those kids that are rejected from all T20s are "mediocre." The kids with 1550s and 4.0s and a million APs and impressive ECs. Until then, kindly shut your mouth.

The pp said T50, not T20. It is not that hard to get into Rutgers, Ohio State or Florida State. Northeastern is #53. The common app has made it so everyone can click on noetheastern and apply so it has a very low acceptance rate.

It's not hard right now, just like it wasn't very hard to get into Emory just a decade ago. Doesn't mean that things will continue to get harder - then could get easier; colleges could ditch athletics, legacies, they could put a hard cap on international students....Or it could get harder, even much harder. The point is, it's kind of risky, with no clear benefits, to make yourself and your child believe at a young age that "at worst they will be going to...". A million things can go wrong before that becomes reality.

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Anonymous wrote:Spouse has a Ph.D. from Harvard, I have a J.D. and joint M.B.A. from a T10. We have a DC in 2nd grade at a private. If DC doesn't get into a, say, T50, it will be because we the parents screwed up or because the DC screwed up. It won't be because of black applicants or because of affirmative action or because it was always "impossible."

It wasn't always impossible. It is now. I am glad you don't realize this - you should not be thinking about college admissions with a 2nd grader. By the time they are a teen, you'll find out what college admissions is actually like at the most elite schools, and at some point you'll make peace with it. Apparently, that day is not today.

It's apparently not impossible for the tens of thousands who get into T50's every year. It's only impossible for the mediocre DC's.

People keep saying that much of these classes are made up of first generation students, underrepresented minorities, athletes, etc etc and if you're not in that category, yes it's nearly impossible. What are you not getting about that? Watch some college decision reaction videos on YouTube, the ones that include stats. Then come back and tell us that those kids that are rejected from all T20s are "mediocre." The kids with 1550s and 4.0s and a million APs and impressive ECs. Until then, kindly shut your mouth.

Yes, blame your failures on the black kids. Great way to raise a child and assure that they don't fail.

Read to your children and encourage curiosity.

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Anonymous wrote:Spouse has a Ph.D. from Harvard, I have a J.D. and joint M.B.A. from a T10. We have a DC in 2nd grade at a private. If DC doesn't get into a, say, T50, it will be because we the parents screwed up or because the DC screwed up. It won't be because of black applicants or because of affirmative action or because it was always "impossible."

It wasn't always impossible. It is now. I am glad you don't realize this - you should not be thinking about college admissions with a 2nd grader. By the time they are a teen, you'll find out what college admissions is actually like at the most elite schools, and at some point you'll make peace with it. Apparently, that day is not today.

It's apparently not impossible for the tens of thousands who get into T50's every year. It's only impossible for the mediocre DC's.

People keep saying that much of these classes are made up of first generation students, underrepresented minorities, athletes, etc etc and if you're not in that category, yes it's nearly impossible. What are you not getting about that? Watch some college decision reaction videos on YouTube, the ones that include stats. Then come back and tell us that those kids that are rejected from all T20s are "mediocre." The kids with 1550s and 4.0s and a million APs and impressive ECs. Until then, kindly shut your mouth.

The pp said T50, not T20. It is not that hard to get into Rutgers, Ohio State or Florida State. Northeastern is #53. The common app has made it so everyone can click on noetheastern and apply so it has a very low acceptance rate.

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Anonymous wrote:Spouse has a Ph.D. from Harvard, I have a J.D. and joint M.B.A. from a T10. We have a DC in 2nd grade at a private. If DC doesn't get into a, say, T50, it will be because we the parents screwed up or because the DC screwed up. It won't be because of black applicants or because of affirmative action or because it was always "impossible."

It wasn't always impossible. It is now. I am glad you don't realize this - you should not be thinking about college admissions with a 2nd grader. By the time they are a teen, you'll find out what college admissions is actually like at the most elite schools, and at some point you'll make peace with it. Apparently, that day is not today.

It's apparently not impossible for the tens of thousands who get into T50's every year. It's only impossible for the mediocre DC's.

People keep saying that much of these classes are made up of first generation students, underrepresented minorities, athletes, etc etc and if you're not in that category, yes it's nearly impossible. What are you not getting about that? Watch some college decision reaction videos on YouTube, the ones that include stats. Then come back and tell us that those kids that are rejected from all T20s are "mediocre." The kids with 1550s and 4.0s and a million APs and impressive ECs. Until then, kindly shut your mouth.