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Anonymous wrote:9 golds clowns catching up to the Middle Kingdom

Diving hasn't started yet. China will dominate that.

Anonymous wrote:9 golds clowns catching up to the Middle Kingdom

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Anonymous wrote:You have to acknowledge China is kicking the U.S.’s butt - they are ascendant and we are a country in decline.

Hmmm it's more mixed than that. China is winning a lot of medals at these Olympics. As a country this is the kind of competition they are good at because they have lots of people and a willingness to centralize their approach to winning medals. So they'll pluck the most promising young divers and shooters and archers out of school at age 9 or 10 and pay for them to train around the clock so that they can go win an Olympic medal for China at age 17 or whatever. It's very efficient and effective. Certainly more so than the US's approach which involves no centralized organization for developing young athletes and depends entirely upon people independently deciding they want to pursue these sports and then having the independent means to do so.

On the other hand if you want to get a strong college or graduate education or succeed in global business odds are good that you want to go to the US. Even if you can succeed at high levels in these areas in China the quality of life isn't great and the government is oppressive. Also even those athletes who are being cultivated to compete in the Olympics are considered disposable in China -- if one of them flames out or gets hurt they will just be punted back to wherever they came from and replaced with one of the other billion people vying for that spot. So it's not even clear that the athletes themselves would rather compete for China than the US even as they win golds over US athletes.

China is certainly increasing it's global power and it does use the Olympics to try and assert its dominance. But is it even possible for China to actually supersede the US in industry and culture without proper democracy and more liberated capitalism -- I really just don't think so. It's a heck of a lot easier to create an Olympic diving gold medalist than to create the proper environment in which a company like Amazon or Universal Studios can thrive and become a global powerhouse.

Having state sponsored doping helps especially when wada helps cover it up

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Anonymous wrote:You have to acknowledge China is kicking the U.S.’s butt - they are ascendant and we are a country in decline.

Hmmm it's more mixed than that. China is winning a lot of medals at these Olympics. As a country this is the kind of competition they are good at because they have lots of people and a willingness to centralize their approach to winning medals. So they'll pluck the most promising young divers and shooters and archers out of school at age 9 or 10 and pay for them to train around the clock so that they can go win an Olympic medal for China at age 17 or whatever. It's very efficient and effective. Certainly more so than the US's approach which involves no centralized organization for developing young athletes and depends entirely upon people independently deciding they want to pursue these sports and then having the independent means to do so.

On the other hand if you want to get a strong college or graduate education or succeed in global business odds are good that you want to go to the US. Even if you can succeed at high levels in these areas in China the quality of life isn't great and the government is oppressive. Also even those athletes who are being cultivated to compete in the Olympics are considered disposable in China -- if one of them flames out or gets hurt they will just be punted back to wherever they came from and replaced with one of the other billion people vying for that spot. So it's not even clear that the athletes themselves would rather compete for China than the US even as they win golds over US athletes.

China is certainly increasing it's global power and it does use the Olympics to try and assert its dominance. But is it even possible for China to actually supersede the US in industry and culture without proper democracy and more liberated capitalism -- I really just don't think so. It's a heck of a lot easier to create an Olympic diving gold medalist than to create the proper environment in which a company like Amazon or Universal Studios can thrive and become a global powerhouse.

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Anonymous wrote:Even when they win they are not great. This women's gymnastics team that won, not impressive. So maybe talent is decreasing worldwide in sport. Maybe too much time on phones, not enough at practice.

I think something broke your brain. The US womens' gymnastics team is unquestionably the best in the world with 2 olympic all-around champions who are still somehow at the top of their game 4 and 8 years later. Simone Biles is considered by everyone who matters both inside the sport and out to be the greatest womens gymnast of all time. She has pushed the sport to levels I don't think people previously though possible and the fact that she is still able to compete at this level so far above even the best gymnasts from every other country at 27 is just unheard of. She has Phelps level dominance in the sport.

Put Simone next to any prior gymnastics great and she would absolutely dominate them. She does things no one has ever done before and she does them with perfect execution and power and even is artistically strong. If you don't understand that then you don't understand the sport at all.

These every four year gymnastics watchers with their absolutely idiotic opinions deserve to be ignored. They are literally so stupid its not worth the effort.

You Simone fans are worse than the Bey-hive.

If you aren’t a fan of Simone you ought to seriously reconsider what a complete a33hole you just might be.

Anonymous wrote:You have to acknowledge China is kicking the U.S.’s butt - they are ascendant and we are a country in decline.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s really depressing to watch American youth perform so poorly.

Shut up bot.

Anonymous wrote:It’s really depressing to watch American youth perform so poorly.

Anonymous wrote:It’s really depressing to watch American youth perform so poorly.

Anonymous wrote:You have to acknowledge China is kicking the U.S.’s butt - they are ascendant and we are a country in decline.

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Anonymous wrote:Even when they win they are not great. This women's gymnastics team that won, not impressive. So maybe talent is decreasing worldwide in sport. Maybe too much time on phones, not enough at practice.

I think something broke your brain. The US womens' gymnastics team is unquestionably the best in the world with 2 olympic all-around champions who are still somehow at the top of their game 4 and 8 years later. Simone Biles is considered by everyone who matters both inside the sport and out to be the greatest womens gymnast of all time. She has pushed the sport to levels I don't think people previously though possible and the fact that she is still able to compete at this level so far above even the best gymnasts from every other country at 27 is just unheard of. She has Phelps level dominance in the sport.

Put Simone next to any prior gymnastics great and she would absolutely dominate them. She does things no one has ever done before and she does them with perfect execution and power and even is artistically strong. If you don't understand that then you don't understand the sport at all.

These every four year gymnastics watchers with their absolutely idiotic opinions deserve to be ignored. They are literally so stupid its not worth the effort.

You Simone fans are worse than the Bey-hive.

If you aren’t a fan of Simone you ought to seriously reconsider what a complete a33hole you just might be.

Why? Many of us gen xers in our late 40s 50s don’t respect mental health days these younger kids do.

Anonymous wrote:You have to acknowledge China is kicking the U.S.’s butt - they are ascendant and we are a country in decline.