Anonymous wrote:Legacy Volleyball tryouts: https://legacyvba.sportngin.com/page/show/8695357-try-out-registration
Legacy Volleyball fees: https://legacyvba.sportngin.com/fees (summary: $5500, except $4800 for the 18s)
Legacy Volleyball schedule: https://legacyvba.sportngin.com/page/show/8695359-team-schedules

I don't have enough information to answer the following questions:
Is there too much travel for a new club? I feel like they are overly ambitious.
Will they be able to attract players with skills appropriate for the tournaments that they added on the schedule? I doubt it, but I am sure they will try hard to prove me wrong. It all depends who shows up at the tryouts and what other options those players have.
$5500? Why are VA clubs so greedy? How comes MD clubs can do it for almost half the price (even less if we include MVSA)? Is there a hidden VA fee that nobody knows about?

The most likely answer to all of these questions is a resounding "no." The Club Director doesn't even live in the area. She just moved out of the area this summer.

Justifiable or not, it seems that some of the Maryland clubs are leveraging elementary public schools for practice spaces. There aren't too many clubs that have their own dedicated space, so perhaps the rents account for some of the difference. (I haven't come across a Virginia club using public schools, but I think that's what the regional Metro teams use here in VA).

I'd also look at the number of events (qualifiers in particular). Again, is it all justifiable? I cannot say.

Legacy Volleyball tryouts: https://legacyvba.sportngin.com/page/show/8695357-try-out-registration
Legacy Volleyball fees: https://legacyvba.sportngin.com/fees (summary: $5500, except $4800 for the 18s)
Legacy Volleyball schedule: https://legacyvba.sportngin.com/page/show/8695359-team-schedules

I don't have enough information to answer the following questions:
Is there too much travel for a new club? I feel like they are overly ambitious.
Will they be able to attract players with skills appropriate for the tournaments that they added on the schedule? I doubt it, but I am sure they will try hard to prove me wrong. It all depends who shows up at the tryouts and what other options those players have.
$5500? Why are VA clubs so greedy? How comes MD clubs can do it for almost half the price (even less if we include MVSA)? Is there a hidden VA fee that nobody knows about?

RVA posted their tryouts as a picture that can be nicely shared here:

Another club that landed on the magic $3600 amount as club fee. I am not entirely sure the experience they offer is worth the money. Others may disagree, do the tryouts and join the club - hopefully they will have a good experience.

Metro posted their tryouts: https://metrovbc.sportngin.com/tryouts-schedule and their fees (you have to select each team that you want to learn about): https://www.metrovbc.com/teaminfo-travel
Metro fees may seem smaller than what MOCO and MEVC posted for this season, but they don't include uniforms and travel (so the comparison is hard to make).

MEVC posted the tryout info as pictures, which are easier to share:

Anonymous wrote:I’m cross posting this from another thread in case this one gets a response first.

Does it look bad if your child attends the makeup tryout date instead of the regular set tryout date that is offered? Do the clubs look down on that, like do they interpret it to mean that the club isn't such a high priority for you? Or do they just accept that there are going to be scheduling conflicts? We're trying to fit all the club tryouts in without foregoing any.

If you are missing a tryout and only attending makeups because you are prioritizing other clubs first, then yes they would look down on that. If you are missing their regular tryouts due to another life conflict, most clubs are OK with it and will work with you to figure out a solution.

By the time makeup happen a lot of clubs already have a lot of offers out. By waiting until the makeup there may not even be spot available for you.

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Tryouts are such a drag. I've heard clubs take the position described and say that if they aren't your first choice, then don't bother coming to tryouts. But of course they have many more players tryout than they have roster spots for so they don't make offers to dozens of players. It puts players in a difficult spot. Maybe they are on the bubble for making a team at their preferred club and need to go to multiple tryouts to try to make sure they make a team somewhere, but because tryouts are all on the same weekend conflicts make that challenging. Meanwhile some clubs send out offers immediately when the tryout period opens, before a single player has stepped foot in gym for a tryout. This is perfectly within the rules as long as the player receiving the offer has at least registered and paid for a tryout with that club. Holding the actual tryouts are merely a formality to comply with the rules and have little to no bearing on who gets offers.

They are a drag for everyone, families and clubs. Lots of discussion in older threads on how tough CHRVA tryouts are. At least this year they went back to the split age groups. Even with the difficulty, CHRVA rules are better than some regions. Forcing all the clubs to hold tryouts at the same time gives players a lot more power and choice at the cost of a brutal weekend. Without the rules, clubs could hold tryouts at any time and make/rescind offers at any time. So if your second choice club went first, you either took that offer or gambled that you would get a spot on your first choice club.


If a club only has one team or competes at a high level they have some returning players that they want to keep because they know them well. Some of these clubs send out offers as soon as allowed, especially if the pool of available players is small (either because of competition level or geography). This often means that the remaining group at tryouts is competing for a much smaller number of spots. Limited supply and high demand means someone doesn't get what they want. Remember that for every family that raises concerns about tryouts being a formality, there's another family that gets upset when their player doesn't get an offer to return to the club and feels the club hasn't been loyal to them. You are guaranteed to see posts about both during the tryout weekends here.

Its hard to fault a club for telling a player not to come if they can't attend a tryout time because another club is a higher priority. The alternative is they work hard to accommodate your conflict, make an offer, and then get turned down if the first choice comes through. From their point of view, their limited time during tryout weekend could be better spent on someone that really wants to play for them. Its also hard to fault a player for trying to figure out how to try out at as many clubs as possible, because they aren't sure if they'll make a team.

If you are concerned that a tryout won't be worth it, the best way to address it is to ask questions before you attend the tryout. Be direct with the coach/club director about your chances. They aren't allowed to tell you that you have an offer, and you aren't allowed to accept but both sides are allowed to discuss the situation. Its OK to ask a coach "based on what you've seen, would I have a chance at making a team at your club?". Good coaches and clubs will give you an honest answer. But be prepared for the honest but firm response of "no" or "it will be tough." Also, if a club is your first choice, make sure the club knows it.

I’m cross posting this from another thread in case this one gets a response first.

Does it look bad if your child attends the makeup tryout date instead of the regular set tryout date that is offered? Do the clubs look down on that, like do they interpret it to mean that the club isn't such a high priority for you? Or do they just accept that there are going to be scheduling conflicts? We're trying to fit all the club tryouts in without foregoing any.

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Anonymous wrote:Question about overlapping tryout time on the same day. We are thinking about trying out for both club A and B. The only problem is that the time of club A overlaps with the start of club B. Do you think it's appropriate to go to club A and leave early to go to club B?

It is never appropriate to leave the tryout early - it just sends the message that you don't care enough about club A if you pack your bag and go to the tryout for club B. If in the process you are late for the club B tryout, then you send a different message to club B: they cannot count on you to be on time for a really important event. You could try to explain your way with both club A and club B, but then you show lack of commitment with both. Most clubs have tryouts two days in a row, sometimes an additional tryout by invitation only. You should discuss options with both clubs and figure out if any of them can accommodate you on a different time slot.

+1. We are in this same situation and contacted the club that is DD’s second choice to ask if they would schedule an alternate time. They sent back a nice but firm email that basically said come to the entire tryout and make them the priority or don’t come. She’s not willing to do that so she won’t go to those tryouts.

Tryouts are such a drag. I've heard clubs take the position described and say that if they aren't your first choice, then don't bother coming to tryouts. But of course they have many more players tryout than they have roster spots for so they don't make offers to dozens of players. It puts players in a difficult spot. Maybe they are on the bubble for making a team at their preferred club and need to go to multiple tryouts to try to make sure they make a team somewhere, but because tryouts are all on the same weekend conflicts make that challenging. Meanwhile some clubs send out offers immediately when the tryout period opens, before a single player has stepped foot in gym for a tryout. This is perfectly within the rules as long as the player receiving the offer has at least registered and paid for a tryout with that club. Holding the actual tryouts are merely a formality to comply with the rules and have little to no bearing on who gets offers.

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Anonymous wrote:Question about overlapping tryout time on the same day. We are thinking about trying out for both club A and B. The only problem is that the time of club A overlaps with the start of club B. Do you think it's appropriate to go to club A and leave early to go to club B?

It is never appropriate to leave the tryout early - it just sends the message that you don't care enough about club A if you pack your bag and go to the tryout for club B. If in the process you are late for the club B tryout, then you send a different message to club B: they cannot count on you to be on time for a really important event. You could try to explain your way with both club A and club B, but then you show lack of commitment with both. Most clubs have tryouts two days in a row, sometimes an additional tryout by invitation only. You should discuss options with both clubs and figure out if any of them can accommodate you on a different time slot.

+1. We are in this same situation and contacted the club that is DD’s second choice to ask if they would schedule an alternate time. They sent back a nice but firm email that basically said come to the entire tryout and make them the priority or don’t come. She’s not willing to do that so she won’t go to those tryouts.

Anonymous wrote:Still waiting on Metro to post their fees, but I anticipate them being about the same as they always are. Paramount VBC also just posted their fees. Looks like they are pretty much identical to last season, but it looks like they've added several new perks. They've added Balltime (a volleyball AI platform) and a partnership with NOEZYBUCKETS (a group of current/former Olympians) into their fees.

I assume Balltime replaces Hudl which I think Paramount already offered as part of their fees. Hudl is incredibly overpriced so it's good to see another option gaining some momentum.

Still waiting on Metro to post their fees, but I anticipate them being about the same as they always are. Paramount VBC also just posted their fees. Looks like they are pretty much identical to last season, but it looks like they've added several new perks. They've added Balltime (a volleyball AI platform) and a partnership with NOEZYBUCKETS (a group of current/former Olympians) into their fees.

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Anonymous wrote:MOCO posted their tryout schedule (10/25, 26, 27 for 11-14, and 11/1, 2, 3 for 15-18) and opened the registration. One day (Friday) at my DD age group is already full. Club fees for this year are not posted yet.
https://www.mocovc.org/tryouts

MOCO posted their club fees for the next season. Fees went up compared to last year - all teams pay $100 more for the base fee. It is not clear why some teams (12-14) pay more for practice and others don't. 13s and 14s pay a lot more for practice ($300 top teams and $200 bottom teams). Bottom 14 teams pay $100 more for tournaments as well.
https://www.mocovc.org/clubfees

Looks like their prices went up the same $ amount as MVSA, less than MEVC, DMV etc on the MD side and less than a lot of clubs on the VA side. They still are lower cost than a most other options in the area.

Comparing prices between younger and older teams has issues. Tournament costs usually are higher because the older teams and top teams do more travel tournaments, and practice costs can be higher because they practice more or practice at a higher cost facility. Plus, demand is just higher. Almost every club has higher costs for the older ages, including the MD clubs.

We didn’t play for MOCO last year, but the club we played for didn’t get us any cost info other than a single fee. Having more detailed info is good, wish more clubs did it.

MVSA prices went up by $50 for the 11s and 12s and by $150 for the rest of the teams. Comparatively, MOCO increased the prices by $100 for the older age groups (15-18). But the 14s in MOCO will pay a whooping $400 more than last year, the 13s $300-$350 more, and the 12s $200 more. They didn't go Virginia-type club fees, but the MOCO fees are almost double compared to those in MVSA.

Yes, every club raised prices this year, it’s an unfortunate fact of life for volleyball families. Personally, we wish they weren’t doing so. But according to other posts here, those two clubs are still some of the lowest cost options in the DMV.

For fees published so far this year, MEVC, DMV, Columbia, and Maryland Juniors are all higher cost than MOCO. Historically, Metro (both Travel and Regional) had higher prices as well. They are also lower than virtually all VA clubs.

If you think a club is too expensive, then you shouldn’t try out for that club. Set a price point your family can afford, and hopefully there will be clubs that are at that price with the level of competitiveness that fit your DCs ability.

Is MEVC really more expensive than MOCO this year? In the 14u-17u, the top teams for both clubs charge $3600. The 18s marginally higher for MOCO. MEVC had the bigger price point increase though, price used to be more comparable to MVSA but now in the same price point as MOCO. FWIW, I think this is the real price point, MVSA is just significantly below market because their coaches are volunteers.

MEVC pricing went up more than MOCO pricing, but they got to a point where their fees are comparable. MOCO has the advantage of having relatively good national level teams at an early age, but that does not matter much for the average family.

Anonymous wrote:Question about overlapping tryout time on the same day. We are thinking about trying out for both club A and B. The only problem is that the time of club A overlaps with the start of club B. Do you think it's appropriate to go to club A and leave early to go to club B?

A few years ago we did this with my DD and here are a few things we considered. We prioritized the club she was more interested in deciding which tryout to cut short. Depending how things line up, if you have a choice between missing the beginning of one tryout or the end of another, our judgment was that missing the beginning when they are still getting settled in and going through warmups was the better option. Many clubs do more gameplay towards the end of a tryout and that's the part where they will start to pull girls aside to have individual conversations.

This kind of situation is also a good reason to go to fall clinics for the clubs she's interested in. When my DD had this situation, we communicated with them ahead of the tryout that she was going to miss the first half hour or so of a 2 hour tryout. She was already known to that club and they had expressed interest in her during the months leading up to tryouts so we weren't as worried that it would hurt her chances of getting an offer (which she did get).

For better or worse, in many (maybe most?) cases tryouts are not the place where clubs are doing most of the evaluation of prospective players. Between returning players and players they are recruiting during fall clinics, tryouts are often just a formality or a chance to pick up a few players to complete a team. This is less of a thing for younger teams or at less competitive clubs.