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Anonymous wrote:Not sure if weird resonates but it’s an improvement on the extreme, apoplectic language both parties have using - “ not going to have a country” and “end of democracy”

It's not an improvement. Americans are going to ignore "weird" as well. They just don't care about it. They're interested in the top of the ticket and the policies.

If Project 2025 reflects Trump's future policies, then everything written by former Obama and Biden officials, as well as every Democrat think tank, must be attributed to Harris.

You ... know JD Vance wrote the forward to the Project 2025 book, right? That's not even arms-length distance. And if Trump didn't know that was coming out when he selected him to be his right hand man -- good lord, how incompetent is that?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/jd-vance-foreword-in-project-2025-leaders-book-raises-eyebrows/ar-BB1qySnz

Nice goalpost shifting AND sidestep there. Now it's Vance instead of Trump (and by the way, has Vance come out and said that he's going to adopt Project 2025 if he and Trump win?).

Also, I guess you agree that everything that is written by a Democrat think tank is Harris' policy if she (or her soon to be VP pick) have their name attached to it in any way, shape, or form - right?

You write the forward to it, endorsing it, you own it.

You don’t get your running mate enough to know he wrote the forward? That’s weird.

Anonymous wrote:Yeah, nothing weird about Vance and his “defense” of his wife against the racist MAGA trash.

How very Ginny Thomas’ sh*t family of him to say:

“Obviously she’s not a white person…but I love Usha, she’s such a good mom.”

She’s like, one of the good ones!

+1. Not— she’s a good person, wife, lawyer, partner, human, etc. She’s a good mom. The woman clerked for John Roberts. It’s great that she’s a good mom. But if you’re entire defense of the compete human being you dated and married before you had kids is “a good mom”? I have two kids. By far my biggest and best accomplishment was raising them. But, wow would I be pissed if people attacked me and my husband said “good mom,” instead of “amazing, interesting, accomplished person who has also been a great parent to our kids”. There is a huge difference. To him, his wife is a uterus. That it. It’s gross.

Weirdo.

Yes, they are weird. We've normalized Trump's behavior as well as that of his cronies for far too long. It's really, really weird. I'm glad the Democrats are finally calling it out and not just "We go high when they go low." It'll never work with the MAGA cultists but then, that's not the target audience. This is the offense we've been waiting for. He's also tired and old and a coward -- a drum they continue to beat. This has been music to my ears.

Anonymous wrote:Americans don't mind or even care about perceptions that someone is weird if their policies make sense. What's weird to some people is "cool" to other people (or is conveniently ignored). Biden was accused of sniffing people, Harris has a strange laugh and word salad when she gets nervous.

Biden also stutters. But those are tics in other wise normal people. TV aren’t overall. normal people with tics. They are full on wierdo.

Plus, maybe I’m the only one. But I love that Harris smiles and laughs. The last 8-10 years in US politics. have been a grim, nasty slog. Maybe that’s why smiling and laughing by a candidate seems out of place. Even when Biden made a joke and smiled it was low energy. She has positive energy, and I’m here for it. Such a nice break from all the awfulness we’ve seen for so dang long.

Anonymous wrote:Well, I mean, they are. You can't really argue with it.

They are very weird. Even if they weren’t very weird, the scrutiny has made them weirder.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the line about people being sick of going to thanksgiving and having weird arguments with your uncle is very good. People have had enough of this maga garbage.

I also liked the 'He-Man woman hater's club' thing.

Love that! Tim Walz said that and I think he was the first one who said weird. He articulated in simple language what many people feel.

Everyone knows they’re weird. The question is do they care. People will turn a blind eye to many flaws as long as they do what’s expected of them.

Well, I mean, they are. You can't really argue with it.

"Crooked Hilary"
"Little Marco"
"Sleepy Joe"
"Crazy cat ladies"
Etc., etc., etc.

Fight fire with fire.

They're weird.

Anonymous wrote:Imagine a Washington Post fact check on "Trump and Vance are weird." It would get like...negative Pinocchios.

“Story checks out.”

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Thiel and Vance’s thing with J.R.R Tolkien is also pretty weird.

Need to get the late night hosts to talk about this- Kimmel, Meyers, Colbert.

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Anonymous wrote:The entire Dem party is weird

+1

The democratic convention could make money by advertising as a freak show and letting paying customers do a walkthrough.

Ha ha. The GOP is not happy about the weird thing. Because they know it resonates with people. Vance and Trump are total weirdos!

Walz was a genius for coming up with this language. It’s clear and resonates widely. As has been pointed out, the “threat to democracy” and “soul of the nation” language was too abstract for many Americans. But it’s indisputable that these two guys are weird and have lots of weird ideas. And who wants to vote for weirdos?

+1

Early today he noted you never see DT laugh. Only at people, not with people. That’s very weird behavior, he remarked. Keep it going, man. It’s working. Mainly because it’s true.

Wow. I’ve never heard Governor Walz speak before. In this video at least, he looks and sounds and dresses like the type of voter that the GOP is courting—a working or middle class regular white guy. I say this without knowing anything about his background, but I intend to read up on him since I read somewhere that he is on Harris’s shortlist.

You should. He seems like a really good egg. Public school educated the entire way, including through university. Decades in the army national guard, including service in Afghanistan. A social studies teacher who eventually became a principal, and then retired to serve in the US House.

One thing that I think makes him more relatable is that he didn't go immediately to university, and when he did it was to a small state school. His dad died when he was a high schooler, and it took him a minute to figure out what he wanted to do next. I think the fact that he has worked genuinely blue collar jobs, and grew up in a genuinely rural area, makes it easier for him to talk to regular folks even if he has become successful as a politician.

Imagine a Washington Post fact check on "Trump and Vance are weird." It would get like...negative Pinocchios.

Anonymous wrote:I really wish the democratic talking points would focus on the policy aspects of Project 2025.

1. Kicking 30% of people on Medicaid off. 1 in 3, it will either be you or someone you know.
2. Raising income taxes by 3%-8% on people making 12 K -200 K while cutting corporate taxes and capital gains for high earners.
3. National abortion ban, contraceptives ban and IVF ban.

There are plenty of other despicable things in 2025 but those three will ruin peoples lives in red and blue states.

I think Democrats can walk and chew gum. It's not like Project 2025 is a secret. People can learn what's in it AND think Trump and Vance are weird, creepy and invading our reproductive lives.

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Anonymous wrote:I think "weird" is accurate and a good talking point. It points out how detached from reality they are without giving power to their ridiculousness.

"Dangerous" would just feed the MAGA power fantasies. "Unlawful" and "unconstitutional" are too complicated for some folks, and words like "racist" and "homophobic" definitely have their place but don't really affect people who are racist and homophobic. "Bootlicker" is too crude.

"Creepy" might work, especially with all of the time they spend thinking about others' genitals, but "weird" is good.

It’s also the description that’s going to get under Trump’s skin far more than any of these other descriptors you mentioned.

I think it's a perfect description and it will speak to certain demographics that don't want to be part of a "weird" anything....