Anonymous
07/11/2024 17:16
Subject: 198 Democrats Voted Against the SAVE Act
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It’s not redundant. Here’s SAN news
“Under the current National Voter Registration Act, individuals attest to their citizenship by checking a box on registration forms. However, the SAVE Act proposes significant changes, requiring prospective voters to furnish documentation proving their citizenship. Accepted forms of proof include a U.S. passport, a photo ID card issued with proof of citizenship, or a combination of a photo ID and supporting documents like a birth certificate.
For those lacking these documents, states would gain access to federal agency databases to verify citizenship status for voter registration purposes, according to the text of the bill. The bill also includes provisions to remove noncitizens from voter rolls and grants discretion to the Department of Homeland Security to deport noncitizens found to have illegally registered to vote.“
Sounds good to me. Most countries require voter ID - why shouldn't we? Who on earth would vote against this?
In fact, EVERY other country requires voter ID.
Democrats just can’t win without cheating.
And these other countries also make it easily accessible to get a voter ID. You, of course, conveniently deny this point, which is the problem. With your lot, it's always projection. Why did Alabama close down a bunch of DMV in poor areas when there wasn't a recession? Hmmm? Why are you against making voter IDs cheap and accessible?
Voter IDs ARE cheap and accessible.
Saying it doesn't make it true. But I love how writing it BOLD makes it more persuasive. How about doing a little research on the facts? You know, the bare minimum to have an opinion?
Show us all the exorbitantly expensive and inaccessible IDs towns across America.
Nope. We've already shown you some evidence. How about YOU do some research since you're so confident in your position.
What evidence? You referred to the closure of dmvs? Many states allow noncitizens including illegals to obtain a driver’s license. That’s not proof of citizenship and yet states like CA use driver license registration to sign up to vote.
Anonymous
07/11/2024 17:16
Subject: 198 Democrats Voted Against the SAVE Act
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It’s not redundant. Here’s SAN news
“Under the current National Voter Registration Act, individuals attest to their citizenship by checking a box on registration forms. However, the SAVE Act proposes significant changes, requiring prospective voters to furnish documentation proving their citizenship. Accepted forms of proof include a U.S. passport, a photo ID card issued with proof of citizenship, or a combination of a photo ID and supporting documents like a birth certificate.
For those lacking these documents, states would gain access to federal agency databases to verify citizenship status for voter registration purposes, according to the text of the bill. The bill also includes provisions to remove noncitizens from voter rolls and grants discretion to the Department of Homeland Security to deport noncitizens found to have illegally registered to vote.“
Sounds good to me. Most countries require voter ID - why shouldn't we? Who on earth would vote against this?
In fact, EVERY other country requires voter ID.
Democrats just can’t win without cheating.
And these other countries also make it easily accessible to get a voter ID. You, of course, conveniently deny this point, which is the problem. With your lot, it's always projection. Why did Alabama close down a bunch of DMV in poor areas when there wasn't a recession? Hmmm? Why are you against making voter IDs cheap and accessible?
Voter IDs ARE cheap and accessible.
Saying it doesn't make it true. But I love how writing it BOLD makes it more persuasive. How about doing a little research on the facts? You know, the bare minimum to have an opinion?
Show us all the exorbitantly expensive and inaccessible IDs towns across America.
Nope. We've already shown you some evidence. How about YOU do some research since you're so confident in your position.
Liar. Not one single actual example.
Anonymous
07/11/2024 17:14
Subject: 198 Democrats Voted Against the SAVE Act
Washington Times in 2019:
A top Pennsylvania lawmaker called on the state Wednesday to immediately expunge the names of 11,198 noncitizens whom the state confirmed are registered to vote, despite not being eligible.
State Rep. Daryl Metcalfe, a Republican and former chairman of a House government oversight panel, said the administration of Gov. Tom Wolf, a Democrat, belatedly acknowledged the large number of noncitizens in communications over the past two months…
Just days earlier, officials in Texas announced they had found nearly 100,000 noncitizens on the state’s voter rolls.
Texas Secretary of State David Whitley used state driver’s license records, which include immigration status, and compared those with voter rolls. He found that about 95,000 people whom the state says weren’t citizens were among the 16 million registered voters.
Of those, about 58,000 had voted at some point since 1996.
A top Pennsylvania lawmaker called on the state Wednesday to immediately expunge the names of 11,198 noncitizens whom the state confirmed are registered to vote, despite not being eligible.
State Rep. Daryl Metcalfe, a Republican and former chairman of a House government oversight panel, said the administration of Gov. Tom Wolf, a Democrat, belatedly acknowledged the large number of noncitizens in communications over the past two months…
Just days earlier, officials in Texas announced they had found nearly 100,000 noncitizens on the state’s voter rolls.
Texas Secretary of State David Whitley used state driver’s license records, which include immigration status, and compared those with voter rolls. He found that about 95,000 people whom the state says weren’t citizens were among the 16 million registered voters.
Of those, about 58,000 had voted at some point since 1996.
Anonymous
07/11/2024 17:14
Subject: 198 Democrats Voted Against the SAVE Act
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It’s not redundant. Here’s SAN news
“Under the current National Voter Registration Act, individuals attest to their citizenship by checking a box on registration forms. However, the SAVE Act proposes significant changes, requiring prospective voters to furnish documentation proving their citizenship. Accepted forms of proof include a U.S. passport, a photo ID card issued with proof of citizenship, or a combination of a photo ID and supporting documents like a birth certificate.
For those lacking these documents, states would gain access to federal agency databases to verify citizenship status for voter registration purposes, according to the text of the bill. The bill also includes provisions to remove noncitizens from voter rolls and grants discretion to the Department of Homeland Security to deport noncitizens found to have illegally registered to vote.“
Sounds good to me. Most countries require voter ID - why shouldn't we? Who on earth would vote against this?
In fact, EVERY other country requires voter ID.
Democrats just can’t win without cheating.
And these other countries also make it easily accessible to get a voter ID. You, of course, conveniently deny this point, which is the problem. With your lot, it's always projection. Why did Alabama close down a bunch of DMV in poor areas when there wasn't a recession? Hmmm? Why are you against making voter IDs cheap and accessible?
Voter IDs ARE cheap and accessible.
Saying it doesn't make it true. But I love how writing it BOLD makes it more persuasive. How about doing a little research on the facts? You know, the bare minimum to have an opinion?
Show us all the exorbitantly expensive and inaccessible IDs towns across America.
Nope. We've already shown you some evidence. How about YOU do some research since you're so confident in your position.
Anonymous
07/11/2024 17:13
Subject: 198 Democrats Voted Against the SAVE Act
Trump always gets proven right. Right about COVID lab leak from China.
Right about illegals going to vote for Dems.
Right about Sleepy Joe.
It takes the left a while to catch up. They’re slow on the take but eventually they realize it.
The problem with the Dems is they don’t believe anything until Jake Tapper or Rachel Maddow says it’s true
Right about illegals going to vote for Dems.
Right about Sleepy Joe.
It takes the left a while to catch up. They’re slow on the take but eventually they realize it.
The problem with the Dems is they don’t believe anything until Jake Tapper or Rachel Maddow says it’s true
Anonymous
Anonymous
07/11/2024 16:17
Subject: 198 Democrats Voted Against the SAVE Act
Democrats can’t win without cheating.
Anonymous
07/11/2024 16:16
Subject: 198 Democrats Voted Against the SAVE Act
Anonymous wrote:The current system prevents illegal immigrants and legal immigrants who are not citizens by providing a checkbox on voter registration forms for people to say that they are citizens. Beyond that no checking is done.
And if they are caught, they are not forced to leave.
Anonymous
07/11/2024 16:15
Subject: 198 Democrats Voted Against the SAVE Act
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Only citizens can vote in federal elections.
What the hell is Congress trying to regulate? They have zero jurisdiction over state and local elections.
It's like the GOP doesn't understand the Constitution.
It looks like the stopped pushing voter id after they figured out the current republican base would have trouble voting.
It’s like you are purposefully refusing to read what this bill proposed.
Anonymous
07/11/2024 16:08
Subject: Re:198 Democrats Voted Against the SAVE Act
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is a redundant law that accomplishes nothing new.
Non-citizens are already prohibited from voting by numerous laws and statutes, for example:
18 U.S. Code § 611: This federal law explicitly prohibits non-citizens from voting in federal elections, stating: "It shall be unlawful for any alien to vote in any election held solely or in part for the purpose of electing a candidate for the office of President, Vice President, Presidential elector, Member of the Senate, Member of the House of Representatives, Delegate from the District of Columbia, or Resident Commissioner, unless (1) the election is held partly for some other purpose; (2) aliens are authorized to vote for such other purpose under a State constitution or statute or a local ordinance; and (3) voting for such other purpose is conducted independently of voting for one of the offices referred to in this subsection."
National Voter Registration Act of 1993 (NVRA): This act requires that states provide voter registration forms that include an affirmation that the registrant is a U.S. citizen.
Help America Vote Act of 2002 (HAVA): This law mandates that first-time voters who register by mail provide identification to verify their identity and citizenship.
Also, the Constitution effectively limits voting to citizens.
This bill is redundant, accomplishes nothing new, wasted time and money, and was nothing but performative theater by the Republicans for no good reason other than to feed into their BS narrative that illegal aliens are "replacing" Americans at the polls and everywhere else. These false Republican claims have repeatedly been debunked and disproven. https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2024/may/20/mike-johnson/mike-johnsons-false-claim-that-immigrants-paroled/
This is the fact.
"National Voter Registration Act of 1993 (NVRA):[/b] This act requires that states provide voter registration forms that include [b]an affirmation that the registrant is a U.S. citizen."
And, in some states, the only affirmation that is required is the registrant checks a box. That's it.
So, yes - this law is needed.
We have upward of 20 million people in our country illegally. If only 1% of them voted in a federal election, that would be 200,000 illegal votes. Enough to change the outcome of races depending upon where these people reside.
Thank you. Facts matter.
Faux news.
Anonymous
07/11/2024 16:08
Subject: 198 Democrats Voted Against the SAVE Act
Anonymous wrote:So again, why are democrats against these proposals?
Anonymous
07/11/2024 16:06
Subject: 198 Democrats Voted Against the SAVE Act
Anonymous wrote:Only citizens can vote in federal elections.
What the hell is Congress trying to regulate? They have zero jurisdiction over state and local elections.
It's like the GOP doesn't understand the Constitution.
It looks like the stopped pushing voter id after they figured out the current republican base would have trouble voting.
Anonymous
07/11/2024 15:59
Subject: 198 Democrats Voted Against the SAVE Act
You mean before the 2020 election?Anonymous wrote:It seems like most of the accidental registrations happened during Covid, so it’s probably fine now.
Anonymous
07/11/2024 15:58
Subject: 198 Democrats Voted Against the SAVE Act
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It’s not redundant. Here’s SAN news
“Under the current National Voter Registration Act, individuals attest to their citizenship by checking a box on registration forms. However, the SAVE Act proposes significant changes, requiring prospective voters to furnish documentation proving their citizenship. Accepted forms of proof include a U.S. passport, a photo ID card issued with proof of citizenship, or a combination of a photo ID and supporting documents like a birth certificate.
For those lacking these documents, states would gain access to federal agency databases to verify citizenship status for voter registration purposes, according to the text of the bill. The bill also includes provisions to remove noncitizens from voter rolls and grants discretion to the Department of Homeland Security to deport noncitizens found to have illegally registered to vote.“
Sounds good to me. Most countries require voter ID - why shouldn't we? Who on earth would vote against this?
Democrats, clearly