Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:This whole thread is ridiculous

If you don’t like family life curriculum put your kid in a religious private and shut up.

You want your kid to get pregnant early have at it.

No you will not stop the rest of US

You realize most parents do talk to their kids about sex and reproduction at an age appropriate time, right? They do so by speaking to them with the facts of biology, and according to their own boundaries for each child. They rarely outsource this to third parties, such as the school system. They also speak with them with the facts, and that’s why they end up making the right choices. Of course, once you have children of your own you’ll understand that.

On the contrary, the proposed FCPS changes to the FLE program will confuse some children in that it will teach them that men have periods and can get pregnant.

The data doesn't support your assertion and clear lack of many parent's knowledge of sex education shows that we are harming kids if they do not have school based resources. Please don't lie about what FCPS teaches, b/c you statement is complete bull. See recent Parent's magazine survey that says that 70% of parents want comprehensive sex education in schools. https://www.parents.com/the-state-of-sex-education-today-7497738

Parents who trust FCPS to impart science based Sex Ed are oblivious to the fact that
school based resources rely on the following organizations:
GLSEN
Planned Parenthood
Gender Spectrum
The Human Rights Campaign
The Trevor Project
Advocates for Youth
The GSA Network
SIECUS: Sex Ed for Social Change

To learn more about what these for-profit entities stand for:

https://defendinged.org/resources/special-interest-groups-pushing-extreme-ideologies/

Fun fact: you just quoted a hate group to support your regressive ideals. The groups you cited are respected experts and the ONLY ones who have done research and studies supporting sex ed.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This whole thread is ridiculous

If you don’t like family life curriculum put your kid in a religious private and shut up.

You want your kid to get pregnant early have at it.

No you will not stop the rest of US

You realize most parents do talk to their kids about sex and reproduction at an age appropriate time, right? They do so by speaking to them with the facts of biology, and according to their own boundaries for each child. They rarely outsource this to third parties, such as the school system. They also speak with them with the facts, and that’s why they end up making the right choices. Of course, once you have children of your own you’ll understand that.

On the contrary, the proposed FCPS changes to the FLE program will confuse some children in that it will teach them that men have periods and can get pregnant.

The data doesn't support your assertion and clear lack of many parent's knowledge of sex education shows that we are harming kids if they do not have school based resources. Please don't lie about what FCPS teaches, b/c you statement is complete bull. See recent Parent's magazine survey that says that 70% of parents want comprehensive sex education in schools. https://www.parents.com/the-state-of-sex-education-today-7497738

Parents who trust FCPS to impart science based Sex Ed are oblivious to the fact that
school based resources rely on the following organizations:
GLSEN
Planned Parenthood
Gender Spectrum
The Human Rights Campaign
The Trevor Project
Advocates for Youth
The GSA Network
SIECUS: Sex Ed for Social Change

To learn more about what these for-profit entities stand for:

https://defendinged.org/resources/special-interest-groups-pushing-extreme-ideologies/

So glad my kids have now finished FCPS. I don't envy the rest of you who are going to have to deal with this craziness.

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Anonymous wrote:There isn’t an upcoming vote. They’ve decided to keep genders separate for next year thankfully.

It looks like they are combining genders for family life education in the pilot program.

The low income ESOL families have some of the most traditional families.

This is a twrrible idea.

If fcps is going to combine boys and girls for sex ed, it needs to be in the wealthiest bluest communities in northern Virginia, not the poor immigrant communities.

Pilot it in the wealthy neighborhoods with the greatest percentage of democrat votes. I am sure those neighborhoods will be thrilled to have boys and hirls together for 5th-8th grade sex ed.

OMG boys and girls learning about boobies together and boy parts. OMG OMG OMG OMG
OMB boys and girls learning how to talk to each other about sex omg omg omg

Kids are smarter than parents.

This is a juvenile comment. In a survey last year, parents said they didn't want their kids learning about these things with the opposite sex. It seems weird that fcps would start a pilot program doing just that. Your immature scrutiny is misplaced. We should be asking the school board why they're starting this program and not making fun of parents for their questions and concerns.

DP
I’m not going to make fun. I agree, there’s no purpose for that. I don’t really see what’s wrong with same gender classes for FLE. The topics are natural science. Perhaps we should work to move past the “hush hush”, secretive air that surrounds such topics.

Modesty is developmental. Private parts are private for a reason.

You can't just "make it go away".

Only predators want to eliminate this natural, developmentally appropriate modesty.

Predators and the misguided who are busy trying to seem cool.

There is no such thing as "natural modesty." That is something that old and uninformed people talk about. Unless we force clothing on our kids, they would happily run out of the house naked when they were little kids. We and society teach them to wear clothing and to think it is "icky" to talk about normal bodily functions and basic biology. Mature people recognize this.

You have zero understanding of child development.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There isn’t an upcoming vote. They’ve decided to keep genders separate for next year thankfully.

It looks like they are combining genders for family life education in the pilot program.

The low income ESOL families have some of the most traditional families.

This is a twrrible idea.

If fcps is going to combine boys and girls for sex ed, it needs to be in the wealthiest bluest communities in northern Virginia, not the poor immigrant communities.

Pilot it in the wealthy neighborhoods with the greatest percentage of democrat votes. I am sure those neighborhoods will be thrilled to have boys and hirls together for 5th-8th grade sex ed.

OMG boys and girls learning about boobies together and boy parts. OMG OMG OMG OMG
OMB boys and girls learning how to talk to each other about sex omg omg omg

Kids are smarter than parents.

In the survey last year, the kids had a far higher response against coed sex ed than the parents and teachers.

the kids do not want combined sex ed

We need to quit letting creeps and predators like this poster from getting so much control over our kids and public school.

What a nasty comment. You are also wrong. It was kids and parents who asked for this. The survey results were unfortunately overwhelmed by folks who didn't want FLE in school at all. There is no way to tell if the "students" who responded were actually students, so your statement is meaningless.

80 percentage ish of FCPS students who answered the survey using FCPS emails emphatically stated they do NOT want combined sex ed.

Quit lying, or trying to create a tyranny of the minority, where a handful of kids pushed by activists get to pull the curriculum from what the vast majority of parents, students and teachers want, to the desires of adult fringe activists with no ties to the children of FCPS.

Opt out. The whole thing. It’s poorly done. Opt your kids out.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There isn’t an upcoming vote. They’ve decided to keep genders separate for next year thankfully.

It looks like they are combining genders for family life education in the pilot program.

The low income ESOL families have some of the most traditional families.

This is a twrrible idea.

If fcps is going to combine boys and girls for sex ed, it needs to be in the wealthiest bluest communities in northern Virginia, not the poor immigrant communities.

Pilot it in the wealthy neighborhoods with the greatest percentage of democrat votes. I am sure those neighborhoods will be thrilled to have boys and hirls together for 5th-8th grade sex ed.

OMG boys and girls learning about boobies together and boy parts. OMG OMG OMG OMG
OMB boys and girls learning how to talk to each other about sex omg omg omg

Kids are smarter than parents.

This is a juvenile comment. In a survey last year, parents said they didn't want their kids learning about these things with the opposite sex. It seems weird that fcps would start a pilot program doing just that. Your immature scrutiny is misplaced. We should be asking the school board why they're starting this program and not making fun of parents for their questions and concerns.

DP
I’m not going to make fun. I agree, there’s no purpose for that. I don’t really see what’s wrong with same gender classes for FLE. The topics are natural science. Perhaps we should work to move past the “hush hush”, secretive air that surrounds such topics.

Modesty is developmental. Private parts are private for a reason.

You can't just "make it go away".

Only predators want to eliminate this natural, developmentally appropriate modesty.

Predators and the misguided who are busy trying to seem cool.

There is no such thing as "natural modesty." That is something that old and uninformed people talk about. Unless we force clothing on our kids, they would happily run out of the house naked when they were little kids. We and society teach them to wear clothing and to think it is "icky" to talk about normal bodily functions and basic biology. Mature people recognize this.

Little kids run around naked. Big kids cover themselves. Then teens start baring parts of their bodies. This is all developmental.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There isn’t an upcoming vote. They’ve decided to keep genders separate for next year thankfully.

It looks like they are combining genders for family life education in the pilot program.

The low income ESOL families have some of the most traditional families.

This is a twrrible idea.

If fcps is going to combine boys and girls for sex ed, it needs to be in the wealthiest bluest communities in northern Virginia, not the poor immigrant communities.

Pilot it in the wealthy neighborhoods with the greatest percentage of democrat votes. I am sure those neighborhoods will be thrilled to have boys and hirls together for 5th-8th grade sex ed.

OMG boys and girls learning about boobies together and boy parts. OMG OMG OMG OMG
OMB boys and girls learning how to talk to each other about sex omg omg omg

Kids are smarter than parents.

This is a juvenile comment. In a survey last year, parents said they didn't want their kids learning about these things with the opposite sex. It seems weird that fcps would start a pilot program doing just that. Your immature scrutiny is misplaced. We should be asking the school board why they're starting this program and not making fun of parents for their questions and concerns.

DP
I’m not going to make fun. I agree, there’s no purpose for that. I don’t really see what’s wrong with same gender classes for FLE. The topics are natural science. Perhaps we should work to move past the “hush hush”, secretive air that surrounds such topics.

Modesty is developmental. Private parts are private for a reason.

You can't just "make it go away".

Only predators want to eliminate this natural, developmentally appropriate modesty.

Predators and the misguided who are busy trying to seem cool.

There is no such thing as "natural modesty." That is something that old and uninformed people talk about. Unless we force clothing on our kids, they would happily run out of the house naked when they were little kids. We and society teach them to wear clothing and to think it is "icky" to talk about normal bodily functions and basic biology. Mature people recognize this.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There isn’t an upcoming vote. They’ve decided to keep genders separate for next year thankfully.

It looks like they are combining genders for family life education in the pilot program.

The low income ESOL families have some of the most traditional families.

This is a twrrible idea.

If fcps is going to combine boys and girls for sex ed, it needs to be in the wealthiest bluest communities in northern Virginia, not the poor immigrant communities.

Pilot it in the wealthy neighborhoods with the greatest percentage of democrat votes. I am sure those neighborhoods will be thrilled to have boys and hirls together for 5th-8th grade sex ed.

OMG boys and girls learning about boobies together and boy parts. OMG OMG OMG OMG
OMB boys and girls learning how to talk to each other about sex omg omg omg

Kids are smarter than parents.

In the survey last year, the kids had a far higher response against coed sex ed than the parents and teachers.

the kids do not want combined sex ed

We need to quit letting creeps and predators like this poster from getting so much control over our kids and public school.

What a nasty comment. You are also wrong. It was kids and parents who asked for this. The survey results were unfortunately overwhelmed by folks who didn't want FLE in school at all. There is no way to tell if the "students" who responded were actually students, so your statement is meaningless.

That’s not true at all. They also had focus groups in person and asked the kids - they and the kids didn’t want to be with the opposite gender for the lessons.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There isn’t an upcoming vote. They’ve decided to keep genders separate for next year thankfully.

It looks like they are combining genders for family life education in the pilot program.

The low income ESOL families have some of the most traditional families.

This is a twrrible idea.

If fcps is going to combine boys and girls for sex ed, it needs to be in the wealthiest bluest communities in northern Virginia, not the poor immigrant communities.

Pilot it in the wealthy neighborhoods with the greatest percentage of democrat votes. I am sure those neighborhoods will be thrilled to have boys and hirls together for 5th-8th grade sex ed.

OMG boys and girls learning about boobies together and boy parts. OMG OMG OMG OMG
OMB boys and girls learning how to talk to each other about sex omg omg omg

Kids are smarter than parents.

In the survey last year, the kids had a far higher response against coed sex ed than the parents and teachers.

the kids do not want combined sex ed

We need to quit letting creeps and predators like this poster from getting so much control over our kids and public school.

What a nasty comment. You are also wrong. It was kids and parents who asked for this. The survey results were unfortunately overwhelmed by folks who didn't want FLE in school at all. There is no way to tell if the "students" who responded were actually students, so your statement is meaningless.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This whole thread is ridiculous

If you don’t like family life curriculum put your kid in a religious private and shut up.

You want your kid to get pregnant early have at it.

No you will not stop the rest of US

You realize most parents do talk to their kids about sex and reproduction at an age appropriate time, right? They do so by speaking to them with the facts of biology, and according to their own boundaries for each child. They rarely outsource this to third parties, such as the school system. They also speak with them with the facts, and that’s why they end up making the right choices. Of course, once you have children of your own you’ll understand that.

On the contrary, the proposed FCPS changes to the FLE program will confuse some children in that it will teach them that men have periods and can get pregnant.

The data doesn't support your assertion and clear lack of many parent's knowledge of sex education shows that we are harming kids if they do not have school based resources. Please don't lie about what FCPS teaches, b/c you statement is complete bull. See recent Parent's magazine survey that says that 70% of parents want comprehensive sex education in schools. https://www.parents.com/the-state-of-sex-education-today-7497738

Opt out makes this whole thing a non issue. No biggie

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Anonymous wrote:Just opt out. No big deal.

Why is the burden on us to opt out? Why not just make it a program people would agree on? Why the desperation to combine young boys and girls to discuss puberty when parents and children overwhelmingly don't want this? Why even ask parents to take surveys if you're going to ignore them?

Agree--everyone's curriculum should not be dictated by what people opposed to the inclusion of immigrant, disabled and LGBTQIA+want, , nor by people who want to exclude information about the state's history with respect to race and enslavement. Public school is for all children. In FLE you are allowed to opt your kids out of certain things. Should you be allowed to opt out of learning about LGBTQIA+ students and their families? Of course not, but you are. As the Virginia Constitution says, you have a right to make decisions about the education of your children--not the education of other people's children. What that has meant practically in the history of Virginia and the other United States is that you may choose not to allow your children to attend public schools.

Anonymous wrote:There was not a survey. There was an email address in 2023 that anti-LGBTQ people spammed nationwide ("we need to get the whole country involved in FCPS" was Jeff Hoffmann's quote). Even then it had a only a couple of thousand responses. The written comments were almost all non-responsive and just gross anti-LGBTQ hate. The total number of people who said that they were "FCPS Parents" was fewer than 40. There are around 360,000 parents in FCPS. 40/360000 is not 80%. Fake number, fake news. This junk piece of "data" needs to end here.

Raises hand. I am an FCPS parent and responded to the FLE survey about combining genders. I said there were many problems with the idea, including some specifics, and they shouldn't do it.

And they didn't make the change, as they had said they would.

There was not a survey. There was an email address in 2023 that anti-LGBTQ people spammed nationwide ("we need to get the whole country involved in FCPS" was Jeff Hoffmann's quote). Even then it had a only a couple of thousand responses. The written comments were almost all non-responsive and just gross anti-LGBTQ hate. The total number of people who said that they were "FCPS Parents" was fewer than 40. There are around 360,000 parents in FCPS. 40/360000 is not 80%. Fake number, fake news. This junk piece of "data" needs to end here.