Anonymous
Post 06/03/2024 22:37     Subject: Why are men still expected to make the first move?
When a woman feels desired you have hit the jackpot. Women are incredibly generous with their time heart wallet energy toward the man that they love. This is an advantage for men. If a woman asks me out I don't think I'll devote the same energy toward her than if it were vice versa.
Anonymous
Post 06/03/2024 22:21     Subject: Why are men still expected to make the first move?
Can you imagine if women were rejected at the rate men are rejected?
Anonymous
Post 06/03/2024 15:43     Subject: Why are men still expected to make the first move?
Anonymous wrote:If women are so independent and self sufficient these days why are men still the ones expected to make the first move? If a woman likes a guy what's preventing her asking him out? If she wants to be his wife what's preventing her from asking him to marry her?


Because in the mammal kingdom, males pursue females in search of mating opportunities. Females decide which advances they will accept and which they will not. It's true of lions and tigers and dolphins and elephants.

We are mammals, too.
Anonymous
Post 06/03/2024 09:04     Subject: Why are men still expected to make the first move?
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Anonymous wrote:Women do make the first move, it's just not the actual "would you go to dinner with me?" question. We are throwing a thousand "moves" your way that you absolutely pick up on and that is what enables you to ask us out. Society trains us (both men and women) to play this game. I personally like it. It's fun as hell. If it stresses you out, then maybe you need to build your confidence.


YES! I've made the first move many many times.


Subtle moves like touching the arm or asking out?


Of the three men I ended up in longer relationships with:

1) Asked out. 2) Confessed feelings. 3) Pulled out a condom and jumped the guy.


So relationships can last long or be successful in which the woman is the initiator

I married one of them. And we are still married for that matter.
Anonymous
Post 06/03/2024 01:59     Subject: Why are men still expected to make the first move?
Yeah men are stuck with this whether they like it or not
Anonymous
Post 06/02/2024 14:28     Subject: Why are men still expected to make the first move?
ZachF wrote:It's the way it is and I'm fine with it. Women have no game at all. I've been on Bumble for a few years where they have to make the first move. 19 times out of 20, the first message is, "hi." Or maybe two words and I have plenty of things in my profile she could ask about or comment on. But women are lazy when it comes to this. Because they've always been approached and never had to take a risk of rejection. It's better how it is. How it's always been. I'm pretty aggressive about approaching a woman I'm interested in so it doesn't bother me.


Clearly it does, boo.
Anonymous
Post 06/01/2024 20:37     Subject: Why are men still expected to make the first move?
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Anonymous wrote:Women do make the first move, it's just not the actual "would you go to dinner with me?" question. We are throwing a thousand "moves" your way that you absolutely pick up on and that is what enables you to ask us out. Society trains us (both men and women) to play this game. I personally like it. It's fun as hell. If it stresses you out, then maybe you need to build your confidence.


YES! I've made the first move many many times.


Subtle moves like touching the arm or asking out?


Of the three men I ended up in longer relationships with:

1) Asked out. 2) Confessed feelings. 3) Pulled out a condom and jumped the guy.


So relationships can last long or be successful in which the woman is the initiator


Sure. If you don't mind initiating and planning every single thing for the rest of the relationship because he's passive and risk-averse and wants you to do it for him.


When you have the guts to make the first move you also have the guts to speak up and ask your man to plan things, and if he doesn’t, you also have the guts to walk away and find something better.


Because the goal is to find someone who takes initiative. If he only plans things when asked, that's not initiative. It's not really about who plans what. It's about avoiding passive men who lack executive functioning skills.
ZachF
Post 06/01/2024 20:22     Subject: Why are men still expected to make the first move?
It's the way it is and I'm fine with it. Women have no game at all. I've been on Bumble for a few years where they have to make the first move. 19 times out of 20, the first message is, "hi." Or maybe two words and I have plenty of things in my profile she could ask about or comment on. But women are lazy when it comes to this. Because they've always been approached and never had to take a risk of rejection. It's better how it is. How it's always been. I'm pretty aggressive about approaching a woman I'm interested in so it doesn't bother me.
Anonymous
Post 06/01/2024 19:07     Subject: Why are men still expected to make the first move?
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Anonymous wrote:Women do make the first move, it's just not the actual "would you go to dinner with me?" question. We are throwing a thousand "moves" your way that you absolutely pick up on and that is what enables you to ask us out. Society trains us (both men and women) to play this game. I personally like it. It's fun as hell. If it stresses you out, then maybe you need to build your confidence.


YES! I've made the first move many many times.


Subtle moves like touching the arm or asking out?


Of the three men I ended up in longer relationships with:

1) Asked out. 2) Confessed feelings. 3) Pulled out a condom and jumped the guy.


So relationships can last long or be successful in which the woman is the initiator


Sure. If you don't mind initiating and planning every single thing for the rest of the relationship because he's passive and risk-averse and wants you to do it for him.


When you have the guts to make the first move you also have the guts to speak up and ask your man to plan things, and if he doesn’t, you also have the guts to walk away and find something better.


Of course, but is it really that appealing to go through all that? You could just date someone who takes initiative without being hassled into it.
Anonymous
Post 06/01/2024 18:26     Subject: Why are men still expected to make the first move?
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Women do make the first move, it's just not the actual "would you go to dinner with me?" question. We are throwing a thousand "moves" your way that you absolutely pick up on and that is what enables you to ask us out. Society trains us (both men and women) to play this game. I personally like it. It's fun as hell. If it stresses you out, then maybe you need to build your confidence.


YES! I've made the first move many many times.


Subtle moves like touching the arm or asking out?


Of the three men I ended up in longer relationships with:

1) Asked out. 2) Confessed feelings. 3) Pulled out a condom and jumped the guy.


So relationships can last long or be successful in which the woman is the initiator


Sure. If you don't mind initiating and planning every single thing for the rest of the relationship because he's passive and risk-averse and wants you to do it for him.


When you have the guts to make the first move you also have the guts to speak up and ask your man to plan things, and if he doesn’t, you also have the guts to walk away and find something better.
Anonymous
Post 06/01/2024 18:04     Subject: Why are men still expected to make the first move?
Anonymous wrote:If women are so independent and self sufficient these days why are men still the ones expected to make the first move? If a woman likes a guy what's preventing her asking him out? If she wants to be his wife what's preventing her from asking him to marry her?


Troll.

Expectations for males today are at rock bottom.
Anonymous
Post 06/01/2024 17:18     Subject: Why are men still expected to make the first move?
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Women do make the first move, it's just not the actual "would you go to dinner with me?" question. We are throwing a thousand "moves" your way that you absolutely pick up on and that is what enables you to ask us out. Society trains us (both men and women) to play this game. I personally like it. It's fun as hell. If it stresses you out, then maybe you need to build your confidence.


YES! I've made the first move many many times.


Subtle moves like touching the arm or asking out?


Of the three men I ended up in longer relationships with:

1) Asked out. 2) Confessed feelings. 3) Pulled out a condom and jumped the guy.


So relationships can last long or be successful in which the woman is the initiator


Sure. If you don't mind initiating and planning every single thing for the rest of the relationship because he's passive and risk-averse and wants you to do it for him.
Anonymous
Post 06/01/2024 09:45     Subject: Re:Why are men still expected to make the first move?
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Anonymous wrote:As a woman, I advise all women who care to listen to let the man make the first move. Always. If he doesn’t then move on. I want to be with a man who has confidence, knows what he wants, and goes after it. That’s it. If he is too timid/scared/nervous to approach me then obviously we aren’t a good fit. The beginnings of a relationship really do matter.


Why does it make a man weak if he doesn't do that doesn't mean he won't be able to protect you? I never understood that goddamn logic why going after what you want is part of masculinity


Think about it. You are a woman and you wait around for some guy you find attractive to ask you out and make the first move. He does not. He is weak because there is no way you will take any responsibility for you lack of action. It’s not your fault…it’s the man’s fault.

It is just laziness, fear of rejection and lack of confidence on the part of the woman.
Anonymous
Post 06/01/2024 02:14     Subject: Why are men still expected to make the first move?
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Women do make the first move, it's just not the actual "would you go to dinner with me?" question. We are throwing a thousand "moves" your way that you absolutely pick up on and that is what enables you to ask us out. Society trains us (both men and women) to play this game. I personally like it. It's fun as hell. If it stresses you out, then maybe you need to build your confidence.


YES! I've made the first move many many times.


Subtle moves like touching the arm or asking out?


Of the three men I ended up in longer relationships with:

1) Asked out. 2) Confessed feelings. 3) Pulled out a condom and jumped the guy.


So relationships can last long or be successful in which the woman is the initiator
Anonymous
Post 05/31/2024 12:14     Subject: Why are men still expected to make the first move?
It's directly correlated with how assertive he is in life and in bed.