Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am wondering if Stuy’s education model is effective. These are the best students selected merit based. In theory the majority of them should be ivy bound. But the results are far from that.

"in theory the majority of them should be ivy bound?"

in what theory?

stuy is a meritocracy. the ivies are not. the end.

That’s true.

Harvard’s admissions are 31% legacy.

Like the rest of the Ancient Eight, add in sports recruits and children of major donors, and the academic merit isn’t really there anymore.

Anonymous wrote:Based on most of those students were Asian I doubt this is an official school instagram account. But when you look at city public high schools and especially exam schools a majority of top students are from families who are new to the US, not just Asian countries.

TJ’s current student body (grades 9-12) is:

81% minority

my kid is at Stuy and they only had the sweatshirt day yesterday. my kid only learned where a lot of kids were going yesterday. why does DCUM pretend they know more than kids in the school?

Anonymous wrote:I am wondering if Stuy’s education model is effective. These are the best students selected merit based. In theory the majority of them should be ivy bound. But the results are far from that.

"in theory the majority of them should be ivy bound?"

in what theory?

stuy is a meritocracy. the ivies are not. the end.

Anonymous wrote:Stuy parent here.

I know of at least 10 kids going to Harvard. Ivies are nowhere near 40%, but solid. Not everyone posts to Instagram (senior caucus may be more reflective)

And local schools and/or full scholarships are often deciding factors. Sophie Davis more coveted than HYP.

Stuy kids get hit w racism (as seen here). It is what America is. But it also propels a thousand first gen kids into the professional class year after year - and that’s what America can do. A New Yorker who lands in the hospital and hears the surgeon went to Stuy and Harvard - they care about the Stuy part. That’s all merit.

Some colleges don’t really want a school full of stuy kids. Some colleges are fine w it. I was on a Stuy college counseling zoom call where the guest was head of admissions at UChicago. He said: “I read one territory. And that territory is Stuyvesant High School”

My ex went to Stuyvesant and Cornelll undergrad and Harvard med. He always joked about how Stuyvesant was the impressive part.

if you live in nyc, you'll see asian stuy grads everywhere. my accountant is an asian stuy grad, the doctor who delivered my kids is an asian stuy grad, my old boss at the court of appeals is an asian stuy grad, my congresswoman is an asian stuy grad.

you dont have to be a nobel prize winner to be a successful contributing member of society.

I am wondering if Stuy’s education model is effective. These are the best students selected merit based. In theory the majority of them should be ivy bound. But the results are far from that.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wikipedia: Stuyvesant has educated four Nobel laureates.[7] Notable alumni include former United States attorney general Eric Holder, physicists Brian Greene and Lisa Randall, economist Thomas Sowell, mathematician Paul Cohen, chemist Roald Hoffmann, biologist Eric Lander, Oscar-winning actor James Cagney, comedian Billy Eichner, and chess grandmaster Robert Hess.

Not a single Asian from a school 72% Asian. Interesting.

Um, maybe take a look at the school demographics during the time period ps when those people that you’ve named actually attended the school. Things do change over the decades. Check back in a few years if you want a better sense of the accomplishments of more recent Stuyvesant graduates.

Point taken. But the fact of the matter remains true. Asian kids shine in elementary through high school thanks to extreme Tiger parenting. Beyond that, Tiger parenting does not and cannot work any longer. In fact, from college years and beyond, the detrimental effects of Tiger parenting become surfaced.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wikipedia: Stuyvesant has educated four Nobel laureates.[7] Notable alumni include former United States attorney general Eric Holder, physicists Brian Greene and Lisa Randall, economist Thomas Sowell, mathematician Paul Cohen, chemist Roald Hoffmann, biologist Eric Lander, Oscar-winning actor James Cagney, comedian Billy Eichner, and chess grandmaster Robert Hess.

Not a single Asian from a school 72% Asian. Interesting.

Um, maybe take a look at the school demographics during the time period ps when those people that you’ve named actually attended the school. Things do change over the decades. Check back in a few years if you want a better sense of the accomplishments of more recent Stuyvesant graduates.

Not surprising. All white panelists selecting mostly white recipients of this award.

Make it 40% Asians and you will start to see some Asian recipients.

Anonymous wrote:Wikipedia: Stuyvesant has educated four Nobel laureates.[7] Notable alumni include former United States attorney general Eric Holder, physicists Brian Greene and Lisa Randall, economist Thomas Sowell, mathematician Paul Cohen, chemist Roald Hoffmann, biologist Eric Lander, Oscar-winning actor James Cagney, comedian Billy Eichner, and chess grandmaster Robert Hess.

Not a single Asian from a school 72% Asian. Interesting.

Um, maybe take a look at the school demographics during the time period ps when those people that you’ve named actually attended the school. Things do change over the decades. Check back in a few years if you want a better sense of the accomplishments of more recent Stuyvesant graduates.

Anonymous wrote:Wikipedia: Stuyvesant has educated four Nobel laureates.[7] Notable alumni include former United States attorney general Eric Holder, physicists Brian Greene and Lisa Randall, economist Thomas Sowell, mathematician Paul Cohen, chemist Roald Hoffmann, biologist Eric Lander, Oscar-winning actor James Cagney, comedian Billy Eichner, and chess grandmaster Robert Hess.

Not a single Asian from a school 72% Asian. Interesting.

I mean, are you dumb and also a racist?

Stuy and the other specialized high schools have always been a haven for the immigrant classes or those left out of the private school world because of other factors, like racism and antisemitism.

The fact that we have an SHSAT protected by state law is because there was a time when people didn't like all the jewish kids in these nice schools. I bet you can just imagine you'd have been part of that complaining crew then, right!

I think Bronx Science and Brooklyn Tech have even more laureates. you'll see more immigrant names which - newsflash - weren't heavily asian in the 1940s and 50s.

Anonymous wrote:Wikipedia: Stuyvesant has educated four Nobel laureates.[7] Notable alumni include former United States attorney general Eric Holder, physicists Brian Greene and Lisa Randall, economist Thomas Sowell, mathematician Paul Cohen, chemist Roald Hoffmann, biologist Eric Lander, Oscar-winning actor James Cagney, comedian Billy Eichner, and chess grandmaster Robert Hess.

Not a single Asian from a school 72% Asian. Interesting.

aren't the Asians more recent immigrants? Used to be a Jewish school - and that's who a lot of these people are.
it's how all of this stuff changes over generations. its natural.

Wikipedia: Stuyvesant has educated four Nobel laureates.[7] Notable alumni include former United States attorney general Eric Holder, physicists Brian Greene and Lisa Randall, economist Thomas Sowell, mathematician Paul Cohen, chemist Roald Hoffmann, biologist Eric Lander, Oscar-winning actor James Cagney, comedian Billy Eichner, and chess grandmaster Robert Hess.

Not a single Asian from a school 72% Asian. Interesting.

Stuy parent here.

I know of at least 10 kids going to Harvard. Ivies are nowhere near 40%, but solid. Not everyone posts to Instagram (senior caucus may be more reflective)

And local schools and/or full scholarships are often deciding factors. Sophie Davis more coveted than HYP.

Stuy kids get hit w racism (as seen here). It is what America is. But it also propels a thousand first gen kids into the professional class year after year - and that’s what America can do. A New Yorker who lands in the hospital and hears the surgeon went to Stuy and Harvard - they care about the Stuy part. That’s all merit.

Some colleges don’t really want a school full of stuy kids. Some colleges are fine w it. I was on a Stuy college counseling zoom call where the guest was head of admissions at UChicago. He said: “I read one territory. And that territory is Stuyvesant High School”

Anonymous wrote:There are about 900 kids in the graduating class and 120 posts on Instagram. I'm curious where the rest of the class is headed. With 900 seniors, I'd expect the top 10% headed to top colleges. These are the best students in NYC.

I was class of 1999 at Stuy. Roughly 50% go to SUNY Binghamton/Buffalo/Albany/Stony Brook.