Oklahoma State University, Kansas State University, Missouri Science and Technology

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here.

Lots of good suggestions here. We have a little bit of time and I'm going to discuss a major change with him or else change what schools he's targeting. He's completely delusional, he wanted to focus on Top 20s and have a couple Top 50s as his "back up"... I told him Top 50s needed to be his reaches.

A neighbor of ours had their son from public get into CalTech and because of the college placement from his private school, my son believes some of these schools are more attainable than they truly are. However, college placement is important to his school and I think even if he won't listen to me, they'll get through to him that he needs some other choices.

So, he thinks that a high achieving public school student is the same as a 3.6 from private school?

Do you know what the neighbor's stats and activities were like? That might help with the comparison, and where your DS stands.

My son thinks a 3.6 from private is good enough and maybe even better than a 4.0 from public. There is no comparison to DS and our neighbors kid. Neighbor is incredibly academic, straight As, many APs, all around wonderfully smart and articulate and URM. My son is... Let's just say, "well-rounded" and not short on confidence, he plays one sport seriously, with a revolving door of other activities, very social and only really applies himself to classes he believes are important.

You have now revealed yourself to be a troll. Carry on.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here.

Lots of good suggestions here. We have a little bit of time and I'm going to discuss a major change with him or else change what schools he's targeting. He's completely delusional, he wanted to focus on Top 20s and have a couple Top 50s as his "back up"... I told him Top 50s needed to be his reaches.

A neighbor of ours had their son from public get into CalTech and because of the college placement from his private school, my son believes some of these schools are more attainable than they truly are. However, college placement is important to his school and I think even if he won't listen to me, they'll get through to him that he needs some other choices.

So, he thinks that a high achieving public school student is the same as a 3.6 from private school?

Do you know what the neighbor's stats and activities were like? That might help with the comparison, and where your DS stands.

My son thinks a 3.6 from private is good enough and maybe even better than a 4.0 from public. There is no comparison to DS and our neighbors kid. Neighbor is incredibly academic, straight As, many APs, all around wonderfully smart and articulate and URM. My son is... Let's just say, "well-rounded" and not short on confidence, he plays one sport seriously, with a revolving door of other activities, very social and only really applies himself to classes he believes are important.

DP. He's wrong. And sounds like a bit of a jackass, frankly. Hope you can help him build a more rational perspective and check that arrogance!

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Try:
Case Western
NYU
Tufts (ED?)
Lehigh
Wake
Santa Clara

Not getting in any of these schools with a 3.6 even ED, except maybe Santa Clara.

You can from our private school. Not ED either.

Case /NYU/Lehigh/Santa Clara all good in RD from our private for this profile.

I think wake has weirdly gotten harder.
Tufts was unusual this year too.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Try:
Case Western
NYU
Tufts (ED?)
Lehigh
Wake
Santa Clara

Not getting in any of these schools with a 3.6 even ED, except maybe Santa Clara.

You can from our private school. Not ED either.

Anonymous wrote:Case, RPI, RIT, etc are walk-ins for 3.5 UW/4.0W

These and many others in T40-60, schools are desperate for tuition $$

If Case were a walk-in for 3.5's, it wouldn't have a sub-30% acceptance rate.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here. Unweighted, Private and plays two sports, but only one at a high level/year round.

Please share weighted GPA, test scores, and level of rigor (number of APs. how many are rigorous (AP BC Calc) vs. not (AP capstone).

Privates don’t have weighted gpa ppl

Many do.

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Anonymous wrote:What is his intended major?

Engineering. Particular interest in Robotics

WPI would be perfect. Amazing program.

Anonymous wrote:Case, RPI, RIT, etc are walk-ins for 3.5 UW/4.0W

These and many others in T40-60, schools are desperate for tuition $$

This is true.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here.

Lots of good suggestions here. We have a little bit of time and I'm going to discuss a major change with him or else change what schools he's targeting. He's completely delusional, he wanted to focus on Top 20s and have a couple Top 50s as his "back up"... I told him Top 50s needed to be his reaches.

A neighbor of ours had their son from public get into CalTech and because of the college placement from his private school, my son believes some of these schools are more attainable than they truly are. However, college placement is important to his school and I think even if he won't listen to me, they'll get through to him that he needs some other choices.

So, he thinks that a high achieving public school student is the same as a 3.6 from private school?

Do you know what the neighbor's stats and activities were like? That might help with the comparison, and where your DS stands.

My son thinks a 3.6 from private is good enough and maybe even better than a 4.0 from public. There is no comparison to DS and our neighbors kid. Neighbor is incredibly academic, straight As, many APs, all around wonderfully smart and articulate and URM. My son is... Let's just say, "well-rounded" and not short on confidence, he plays one sport seriously, with a revolving door of other activities, very social and only really applies himself to classes he believes are important.

Is he following his school’s IG account/admissions stories from seniors at HIS school? That should be instructive - more than a neighbor at another school….

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here.

Lots of good suggestions here. We have a little bit of time and I'm going to discuss a major change with him or else change what schools he's targeting. He's completely delusional, he wanted to focus on Top 20s and have a couple Top 50s as his "back up"... I told him Top 50s needed to be his reaches.

A neighbor of ours had their son from public get into CalTech and because of the college placement from his private school, my son believes some of these schools are more attainable than they truly are. However, college placement is important to his school and I think even if he won't listen to me, they'll get through to him that he needs some other choices.

So, he thinks that a high achieving public school student is the same as a 3.6 from private school?

Do you know what the neighbor's stats and activities were like? That might help with the comparison, and where your DS stands.

My son thinks a 3.6 from private is good enough and maybe even better than a 4.0 from public. There is no comparison to DS and our neighbors kid. Neighbor is incredibly academic, straight As, many APs, all around wonderfully smart and articulate and URM. My son is... Let's just say, "well-rounded" and not short on confidence, he plays one sport seriously, with a revolving door of other activities, very social and only really applies himself to classes he believes are important.

Does your DS not realize that being a URM is pretty big hook? Especially one who is super smart and majoring in STEM? A white/asian boy in STEM is not a hook.

My kid is white/asian, and a STEM major, with super high stats from a public magnet, so many APs (all 5s, except one in FL) that they went into college as a sophomore, almost a junior, passed the UMD MVC exam in HS. They are a dual major in STEM (straight As in college so far). Rejected at T10 for STEM, including Caltech.

Those are the types of high achieving kids your DS is competing against. I mean, I guess anything is possible.

Does he know of any Eng majors from his school and what colleges and stats they had?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here.

Lots of good suggestions here. We have a little bit of time and I'm going to discuss a major change with him or else change what schools he's targeting. He's completely delusional, he wanted to focus on Top 20s and have a couple Top 50s as his "back up"... I told him Top 50s needed to be his reaches.

A neighbor of ours had their son from public get into CalTech and because of the college placement from his private school, my son believes some of these schools are more attainable than they truly are. However, college placement is important to his school and I think even if he won't listen to me, they'll get through to him that he needs some other choices.

So, he thinks that a high achieving public school student is the same as a 3.6 from private school?

Do you know what the neighbor's stats and activities were like? That might help with the comparison, and where your DS stands.

My son thinks a 3.6 from private is good enough and maybe even better than a 4.0 from public. There is no comparison to DS and our neighbors kid. Neighbor is incredibly academic, straight As, many APs, all around wonderfully smart and articulate and URM. My son is... Let's just say, "well-rounded" and not short on confidence, he plays one sport seriously, with a revolving door of other activities, very social and only really applies himself to classes he believes are important.

Caltech is probably the hardest admit there is...even for a URM. Perhaps it would be instructive for the neighbor or their parent to give your kid the "scared straight" talk. This kid probably has nearly perfect SATs (definitely 800 Math; yeah I know CalTech was test blind until this year, but I doubt the neighbor never took the SAT or ACT), probably has won nationally recognized Math competitions, etc.

I might agree with your kid if the neighbor was going to Harvard or an Ivy where they have all kinds of institutional needs they want to fill, but Caltech only has 250 kids per class and there isn't anywhere for someone to hide if they can't handle the school.

I realize the neighbor or the parents may be reluctant to divulge all this, but I bet the differences would be so stark that your kid may snap out of his delusions.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here.

Lots of good suggestions here. We have a little bit of time and I'm going to discuss a major change with him or else change what schools he's targeting. He's completely delusional, he wanted to focus on Top 20s and have a couple Top 50s as his "back up"... I told him Top 50s needed to be his reaches.

A neighbor of ours had their son from public get into CalTech and because of the college placement from his private school, my son believes some of these schools are more attainable than they truly are. However, college placement is important to his school and I think even if he won't listen to me, they'll get through to him that he needs some other choices.

So, he thinks that a high achieving public school student is the same as a 3.6 from private school?

Do you know what the neighbor's stats and activities were like? That might help with the comparison, and where your DS stands.

My son thinks a 3.6 from private is good enough and maybe even better than a 4.0 from public. There is no comparison to DS and our neighbors kid. Neighbor is incredibly academic, straight As, many APs, all around wonderfully smart and articulate and URM. My son is... Let's just say, "well-rounded" and not short on confidence, he plays one sport seriously, with a revolving door of other activities, very social and only really applies himself to classes he believes are important.

Case, RPI, RIT, etc are walk-ins for 3.5 UW/4.0W

These and many others in T40-60, schools are desperate for tuition $$

Anonymous wrote:OP here.

Lots of good suggestions here. We have a little bit of time and I'm going to discuss a major change with him or else change what schools he's targeting. He's completely delusional, he wanted to focus on Top 20s and have a couple Top 50s as his "back up"... I told him Top 50s needed to be his reaches.

A neighbor of ours had their son from public get into CalTech and because of the college placement from his private school, my son believes some of these schools are more attainable than they truly are. However, college placement is important to his school and I think even if he won't listen to me, they'll get through to him that he needs some other choices.

So, he thinks that a high achieving public school student is the same as a 3.6 from private school?

Do you know what the neighbor's stats and activities were like? That might help with the comparison, and where your DS stands.