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Anonymous wrote:My DD initially was focused on going to an OOS state school. In the end she was really worried that the place she liked the most would be a back up for the in-state students (who are 80%) were compelled to attend bc of cost. I think this was in part bc she was offered honors/merit at our in state school and felt this way herself but really wanted to go away. She wound up at a private school which wasn’t what she had originally planned.

what an incredibly snobby and entitled child you raised

Np. I kind of get it because my daughter was so happy to go to her first choice but was kind of bummed that all of her friends had been rejected by their top ivy/elite choice so they always had a chip on their shoulders about never being totally happy with their school.

Not a big deal, of course, but real.

It’s delusional to believe that the in-state kids at the state flagship have a chip on their shoulders! You people REALLY need to get out of your bubbles.

It's actually.. not that crazy of a thought. You don't think there are in-state kids at somewhere like Michigan that got into private schools and didn't attend due to cost that are peeved about it?

Maybe a few of course. But this originally came up as someone claiming that it was somehow pervasive that kids at a state flagship all go around moping because they are not at Yale. Absurd.

That’s how I read it as well. The overwhelmingly majority of instate Michigan kids who attend Michigan aren’t peeved in the slightest thst they didn’t get into a private school. There are very, very few private colleges that are Michigan’s level. Now if you mentioned OOS students, that would be more believable.

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Anonymous wrote:My DD initially was focused on going to an OOS state school. In the end she was really worried that the place she liked the most would be a back up for the in-state students (who are 80%) were compelled to attend bc of cost. I think this was in part bc she was offered honors/merit at our in state school and felt this way herself but really wanted to go away. She wound up at a private school which wasn’t what she had originally planned.

what an incredibly snobby and entitled child you raised

Np. I kind of get it because my daughter was so happy to go to her first choice but was kind of bummed that all of her friends had been rejected by their top ivy/elite choice so they always had a chip on their shoulders about never being totally happy with their school.

Not a big deal, of course, but real.

It’s delusional to believe that the in-state kids at the state flagship have a chip on their shoulders! You people REALLY need to get out of your bubbles.

It's actually.. not that crazy of a thought. You don't think there are in-state kids at somewhere like Michigan that got into private schools and didn't attend due to cost that are peeved about it?

I agree with this. We know plenty of kids who don't view their fantastic in state options like UF, UNC, UVA the way out of state students do. They have a tough time getting excited about these schools because they see them as an extension of their high school experience. Of course they are great schools and make 100% financial sense, but to an 18 year old, they don't have the same draw as a unique far away experience.

I know people who bribed their kids to go to UMD in state. I know adults who went to in state great schools who wish they’d gone away. This is common.
The person calling these kids names is so sanctimonious and out of touch.

Anonymous wrote:I’ve heard some state schools are easier on out of state students than others. My DC doesn’t want to feel like tons of people go home on the weekends or like most freshmen just hang out with kids from their high school.

Have you had experience with this — good or bad? We’ve visited several big, popular places and a few don’t even seem to have freshman orientation, which might help with meeting people. (So different from LACS.)

Back in the olden days (early 90s) when JMU had an undergraduate enrollment of 12k, my dorm floor consisted of kids from NOVA, Tidewater, Southside, MD, CT, NY and NJ. If this is the experience of a regional school pre-internet and common app, it's probably more difficult to find a school that is tough for OOS.

I find this thread so odd just thinking of my experience at Indiana in the 1980s.

My best friends were from Ohio, Missouri, Illinois, New York, New York and Massachusetts. And I was a state resident of Indiana I loved meeting all of them and I loved that there were NOT from Indiana and had grown up, in some cases, in such different environments.

Being with a bunch of Hoosiers at a state school made no difference to any of them. They loved it there. Good memories. Good friends.

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Anonymous wrote:Delaware! The majority of kids are out of state.

But aren’t they all from Jersey and PA?

NP. Many but also many from NY and NYC. Also MD and VA.

Some frats and sororities from some of these big state schools, particularly in the south, do prefer in state. But only some. Many others have lots of OOS students and even some where it is the majority.

So the example above is not the norm.

Anonymous wrote:Wisco is here to stay, y’all! My kid didn’t even apply to Wisco last fall, but I’m thinking of ordering a Wisco hoody tonight just so I can say “where’s my Wisco hoody?!” around the house every few days.

‘sconsin never had a chance.

Like nails on a chalkboard — please make it stop!

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Anonymous wrote:My DD initially was focused on going to an OOS state school. In the end she was really worried that the place she liked the most would be a back up for the in-state students (who are 80%) were compelled to attend bc of cost. I think this was in part bc she was offered honors/merit at our in state school and felt this way herself but really wanted to go away. She wound up at a private school which wasn’t what she had originally planned.

what an incredibly snobby and entitled child you raised

Np. I kind of get it because my daughter was so happy to go to her first choice but was kind of bummed that all of her friends had been rejected by their top ivy/elite choice so they always had a chip on their shoulders about never being totally happy with their school.

Not a big deal, of course, but real.

It’s delusional to believe that the in-state kids at the state flagship have a chip on their shoulders! You people REALLY need to get out of your bubbles.

It's actually.. not that crazy of a thought. You don't think there are in-state kids at somewhere like Michigan that got into private schools and didn't attend due to cost that are peeved about it?

I agree with this. We know plenty of kids who don't view their fantastic in state options like UF, UNC, UVA the way out of state students do. They have a tough time getting excited about these schools because they see them as an extension of their high school experience. Of course they are great schools and make 100% financial sense, but to an 18 year old, they don't have the same draw as a unique far away experience.

You know snobby, entitled kids. The vast majority of kids going in state to their state flagship are not moaning about not being at Brown. Money alone …

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Anonymous wrote:My DD initially was focused on going to an OOS state school. In the end she was really worried that the place she liked the most would be a back up for the in-state students (who are 80%) were compelled to attend bc of cost. I think this was in part bc she was offered honors/merit at our in state school and felt this way herself but really wanted to go away. She wound up at a private school which wasn’t what she had originally planned.

what an incredibly snobby and entitled child you raised

Np. I kind of get it because my daughter was so happy to go to her first choice but was kind of bummed that all of her friends had been rejected by their top ivy/elite choice so they always had a chip on their shoulders about never being totally happy with their school.

Not a big deal, of course, but real.

It’s delusional to believe that the in-state kids at the state flagship have a chip on their shoulders! You people REALLY need to get out of your bubbles.

It's actually.. not that crazy of a thought. You don't think there are in-state kids at somewhere like Michigan that got into private schools and didn't attend due to cost that are peeved about it?

Maybe a few of course. But this originally came up as someone claiming that it was somehow pervasive that kids at a state flagship all go around moping because they are not at Yale. Absurd.

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Anonymous wrote:My DD initially was focused on going to an OOS state school. In the end she was really worried that the place she liked the most would be a back up for the in-state students (who are 80%) were compelled to attend bc of cost. I think this was in part bc she was offered honors/merit at our in state school and felt this way herself but really wanted to go away. She wound up at a private school which wasn’t what she had originally planned.

what an incredibly snobby and entitled child you raised

Np. I kind of get it because my daughter was so happy to go to her first choice but was kind of bummed that all of her friends had been rejected by their top ivy/elite choice so they always had a chip on their shoulders about never being totally happy with their school.

Not a big deal, of course, but real.

It’s delusional to believe that the in-state kids at the state flagship have a chip on their shoulders! You people REALLY need to get out of your bubbles.

It's actually.. not that crazy of a thought. You don't think there are in-state kids at somewhere like Michigan that got into private schools and didn't attend due to cost that are peeved about it?

Peeved? A bit dramatic don’t you think? Using Michigan as an example is pretty silly as well. If you stated an average public state flagship I would somewhat understand your comment. It’s still a ridiculous statement.

You're the one being dramatic and speaking in absolutes. Peeved is probably the mildest word I could've used. And you're changing the goalposts now, you didn't state "average public state flagship".

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Anonymous wrote:Traditional B1G publics with the fewest in-state students:

1. Michigan (~54%)
2. Penn State (~58%)
3. (tie) Wisconsin, Purdue & Indiana (~62-63%)
4. Minnesota (~66%)
5. (tie) Illinois, Ohio State, UMD (~75%)

The others are all around 80% in-state or higher. Rutgers looks to be the highest at 90%+.

Purdue is 40% instate

Not according to College Factual, which is where these numbers are from. Stats are for undergrad only, which might account for the difference.

https://www.collegefactual.com/colleges/purdue-university-main-campus/student-life/diversity/chart-geographic-breakdown.html

For fall '23, Purdue Common Data Set says 50.7% of first years are from OOS, and 48.3% of undergrads as a whole are from OOS. Note this does not include international students, just domestic students who are not from the state of Indiana.

Different sources definitely calculate these numbers differently. Wherever possible, all the figures listed are from College Factual to ensure better comparability.

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Anonymous wrote:Traditional B1G publics with the fewest in-state students:

1. Michigan (~54%)
2. Penn State (~58%)
3. (tie) Wisconsin, Purdue & Indiana (~62-63%)
4. Minnesota (~66%)
5. (tie) Illinois, Ohio State, UMD (~75%)

The others are all around 80% in-state or higher. Rutgers looks to be the highest at 90%+.

Purdue is 40% instate

Not according to College Factual, which is where these numbers are from. Stats are for undergrad only, which might account for the difference.

https://www.collegefactual.com/colleges/purdue-university-main-campus/student-life/diversity/chart-geographic-breakdown.html

For fall '23, Purdue Common Data Set says 50.7% of first years are from OOS, and 48.3% of undergrads as a whole are from OOS. Note this does not include international students, just domestic students who are not from the state of Indiana.

This is from the website from Purdue:

5,067 not from Indiana
4287 Indiana residents


https://admissions.purdue.edu/academics/freshmanprofile.php

Yeah--you can be a VA kid and have your entire class be from NC at UNC (fill in other public schools). State publics that serve the state are filled with kids from THAT state. The BS argument that if you stay in-state you have have no geographical diversity---but then you go a state away with everyone from the same state but you--is ridiculous. I get it if you didn't get into your state flagship or the other state public has a program you can't get at your own....but this 'HS 2.0' crap is stupid. I didn't see anyone from my HS at my large public university. There were 10 of us from my class at a 20k student body. And--people are telling my kid he's nuts to go to a private near home when that private has only like 1% from the DMV and is filled with International students (50 countries represented) and every state and there is a 3 year requirement to live on-campus. In this area, kids are worldly. The amount of places and things my kid has done by 18 and the independence he has living in a city is way more than I had even after graduating from my suburban HS and them my rural public state university.

Anonymous wrote:I was OOS at Chapel Hill and had no issue making friends in my dorm, in my classes, in my sorority, etc. None. Loved it.

If only our OOS kids could get in!!!

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Anonymous wrote:DC’s friend is miserable at Wisconsin. Rushed and said they were told OOS rich kids from the East Coast not welcome. DC is at Berkeley and it’s very accepting of OOS students.

Maybe they just didn’t like her.

Yes- I was in-state at Wisconsin and now my daughter is OOS. Greek life at Wisconsin is VERY OOS dominated. Just not super popular among Wisconsinsites with the exception of maybe a few Milwaukee suburbs/private schools.

That's because, believe it or not, it's mainly people outside of Wisconsin who hold the "Wisconsin is a drinking state" stereotype. In reality, the drinking in Wisconsin is lower than most states.

This isn’t factual. There was a whole other thread that provides statistics and everything.