Anonymous
03/15/2024 15:15
Subject: Retirees buying 4,000 sq ft houses?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm not 70 yet but I could see wanting space for my kids to come and comfortably stay with their partners and kids.
Be realistic. How often will this happen? How often do your kids want to come stay with you for multiple days? I love my parents but I have no interest in spending more than 2-3 days at their house because it's inconvenient not being in your own bed and kids not in their beds for more than few days unless we're on vacation, but grandma's house is not vacation. It'd be different if you have a summer house by the water but that's not what people are talking about here.
And it is much easier for parents to come stay with us instead of the other way around. I am not sacrificing vacation days to spend a week or two in suburban Maryland. My retired parents come see us. And this is the pattern I see among most of my friends and peers. The parents are the ones who visit the kids and grandkids.
I'm seeing fantasies on this thread. Not reality. Rattling around a great big empty house with multiple bedrooms for most of the year just so that your kids can have their own room over Thanksgiving seems silly to me.
NP who provided the list.
I have visitors… friends/family/kids 2x a month. Except when I’m travel to visit them.
Are you an introvert?
People can always come up with the stories and anecdotes to justify their thinkings, especially on the internet. Do what you want to do and certainly there must be some families that live like this. But at the same time let's not pretend this is a normal lifestyle for most retired/senior people even with large families.
I think it’s normal if you’re Italian or Hispanic or other family oriented cultures.
I think if you’re a WASP who left your small town never to look back and think that all gathering require top shelf liquor, expensive wine and caterers this world seems wildly odd. (Or if you’re an introvert)
No matter the size or composition of the gathering, top shelf liquor is important. Life's too short to drink sh!tty booze. Plus, if you're drinking rotgut, you just want the alcohol to get a buzz/drink, which is . . . not great.
We now return you to your regularly scheduled programming.
The 20yo do not appreciate top shelf and you probably think grey goose is top shelf, that’s middle btw.
I know nothing about vodka. It's booze for people who don't like booze.
Regardless, I stand by what I said.
Anonymous
03/15/2024 15:13
Subject: Re:Retirees buying 4,000 sq ft houses?
Anonymous wrote:our kids and grandkids love visiting the "estate" throughout the year
Is it bigger than their home? More expensive? I would want to pay-it-forward instead, to assure that a growing family had the more spacious home.
Imho, it just doesn't seem right to live the way you do as a retiree. Why not gift more money to them to help with their housing?
- signed, a retiree myself
This isn't a matter of right or wrong, you ninny. You prefer to live a different way. That's it. Why not leave it at that?
Anonymous
03/15/2024 15:11
Subject: Re:Retirees buying 4,000 sq ft houses?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No longer the appropriate time of life to be hosting family events, not on a regular basis. Pass the baton, and the control, to the next generation. They should be living in the bigger houses. If they have a family, they need the bigger homes
I'm thisl poster. I'm 60 with married kids and grandchildren.
At 60, you are not a boomer. If you or your male peers were not eligible for the Vietnam war draft, you are not a boomer. Dealing with the draft was the factor that coalesced the boomer generation. If you were too young for the draft, you just are not a boomer.
Wrong. The baby boomer generation was 1946 to 1964. The defining feature was being born during the massive population spike immediately following WWII.
I was a child in the 60s. Anyone who had to face the draft or had same age peers facing the draft will tell you that people too young for the draft had a completely different experience in life. The Vietnam war draft was the defining shared experience of the boomers. If you didn’t share it, you are not a boomer, no matter what year you were born.
Good grief. The name "Boomer" comes from "baby boom." That's the determinative factor. It's not "Namer."
You do know that the baby boom was caused by soldiers returning from WWII, right? And those babies were the ones who were eligible for the Vietnam War draft when they turned 18.
There weren’t a lot of soldiers just coming back from WWII by the late 50s and early 60s, and kids born in those years are also the ones who turned 18 after the draft had ended.
Talk to some boomers who turned 18 before the draft had ended. They will tell you that their experiences were very different from those of people who turned 18 after that.
Well, no kidding. It's a nearly 20-year age gap. My experiences as an early Gen Xer are very different from those of late Gen Xers, who have more in common with millennials. But we're all still Gen X.
You're position is, in a nutshell, "I don't agree with when the Boomer generation ends, and I will try to convince everyone that I am right. Endlessly, and no matter how little it has to do with the actual discussion people are having." You can stop now. It's annoying.
Anonymous
03/15/2024 14:59
Subject: Retirees buying 4,000 sq ft houses?
20 years ago.my in-laws moved from a decent sized 4 bedroom house to a much larger new build house. They were in their 60s. They customized it how they liked, etc.
Whenever you talked to them at that time, it was all about retirement. IMO, they were living their lives in the future and retirement was their big reward for working in their careers. Their house was spartan with old furniture but they bought all new for the new house, that kind of thing.
The big house was not for the family as they moved out of state and people may visit every other year or so.
I'm their age now and retired myself. I have a different mindset than they did. My husband and I traveled and have spent money on our house. We don't plan to move. I did not think of retirement as a time of big rewards, but I think a lot of people do: that will be the time they can finally enjoy themselves. I think the big house reflects that.
Whenever you talked to them at that time, it was all about retirement. IMO, they were living their lives in the future and retirement was their big reward for working in their careers. Their house was spartan with old furniture but they bought all new for the new house, that kind of thing.
The big house was not for the family as they moved out of state and people may visit every other year or so.
I'm their age now and retired myself. I have a different mindset than they did. My husband and I traveled and have spent money on our house. We don't plan to move. I did not think of retirement as a time of big rewards, but I think a lot of people do: that will be the time they can finally enjoy themselves. I think the big house reflects that.
Anonymous
03/15/2024 14:39
Subject: Re:Retirees buying 4,000 sq ft houses?
It make zero sense to downsize for many.
My neighbor bought his 6,3000 house in 1975 for $150,000 irbid now worth 1.8 million.
With 500k exemption he would owe taxes in 1.15 million at capital gains rate and state tax be like 300k. Plus 120k realtor fee/moving costs. Then where would he go?
The house is only 2,100 sf per floor. He renovated main level to add huge master suite with bathroom. He rarely goes upstairs or downstairs.
He is already 85 and still perfect health. He does keep his house up, new roof, window painting, lawn service. He has lived there 50 years so has a guy for everything. He would lose that too if he moves
This. If he keeps the house the heirs inherit it at the cost basis on day of death (so inheritance is much higher with no taxes). Inheritance will be much more. Also the realtor and moving costs are a factor.
Anonymous
03/15/2024 13:57
Subject: Re:Retirees buying 4,000 sq ft houses?
Anonymous wrote:our kids and grandkids love visiting the "estate" throughout the year
Is it bigger than their home? More expensive? I would want to pay-it-forward instead, to assure that a growing family had the more spacious home.
Imho, it just doesn't seem right to live the way you do as a retiree. Why not gift more money to them to help with their housing?
- signed, a retiree myself
We have gifted them plenty of $$ to get a head start in life - free educations, home down payments, college fund for next gens, etc. We are not cheating them in any way and the property continues to appreciate (comes with sub dividable acreage) so they will all benefit handsomely after we are gone. We have always planned it this way - to keep the family together so to speak and not become "empty nesters" after kids move on. Being an empty nester represents a depressing position. The memories and bonds that we continue to build are priceless. BTW, we are an ethnic family, with a different mindset vs. the traditional "American family".
Anonymous
03/15/2024 10:15
Subject: Retirees buying 4,000 sq ft houses?
A lot of people have the dream of having the entire family stay over during Christmas and other holidays. The big house is literally for that every year.
I have neighbors with a pool and one of their adult kids and their son is over splashing in the pool every weekend during the summer. For people without beach houses, this is their family time. So I get it.
I have neighbors with a pool and one of their adult kids and their son is over splashing in the pool every weekend during the summer. For people without beach houses, this is their family time. So I get it.
Anonymous
03/15/2024 09:29
Subject: Retirees buying 4,000 sq ft houses?
It make zero sense to downsize for many.
My neighbor bought his 6,3000 house in 1975 for $150,000 irbid now worth 1.8 million.
With 500k exemption he would owe taxes in 1.15 million at capital gains rate and state tax be like 300k. Plus 120k realtor fee/moving costs. Then where would he go?
The house is only 2,100 sf per floor. He renovated main level to add huge master suite with bathroom. He rarely goes upstairs or downstairs.
He is already 85 and still perfect health. He does keep his house up, new roof, window painting, lawn service. He has lived there 50 years so has a guy for everything. He would lose that too if he moves
My neighbor bought his 6,3000 house in 1975 for $150,000 irbid now worth 1.8 million.
With 500k exemption he would owe taxes in 1.15 million at capital gains rate and state tax be like 300k. Plus 120k realtor fee/moving costs. Then where would he go?
The house is only 2,100 sf per floor. He renovated main level to add huge master suite with bathroom. He rarely goes upstairs or downstairs.
He is already 85 and still perfect health. He does keep his house up, new roof, window painting, lawn service. He has lived there 50 years so has a guy for everything. He would lose that too if he moves
Anonymous
03/15/2024 09:22
Subject: Re:Retirees buying 4,000 sq ft houses?
Anonymous wrote:My dad says he’s too good to live in a smaller house at his age. He’s 70 and the house is 6000 sq ft.
I think this is a common attitude.
He does talk about selling to anyone but me and moving to The Villages sometimes but I don’t think he can afford it so that’s just a dream.
Isn’t his house paid off?
How much is the villages?
Anonymous
03/15/2024 09:20
Subject: Re:Retirees buying 4,000 sq ft houses?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No longer the appropriate time of life to be hosting family events, not on a regular basis. Pass the baton, and the control, to the next generation. They should be living in the bigger houses. If they have a family, they need the bigger homes
I'm thisl poster. I'm 60 with married kids and grandchildren.
At 60, you are not a boomer. If you or your male peers were not eligible for the Vietnam war draft, you are not a boomer. Dealing with the draft was the factor that coalesced the boomer generation. If you were too young for the draft, you just are not a boomer.
Wrong. The baby boomer generation was 1946 to 1964. The defining feature was being born during the massive population spike immediately following WWII.
I was a child in the 60s. Anyone who had to face the draft or had same age peers facing the draft will tell you that people too young for the draft had a completely different experience in life. The Vietnam war draft was the defining shared experience of the boomers. If you didn’t share it, you are not a boomer, no matter what year you were born.
Good grief. The name "Boomer" comes from "baby boom." That's the determinative factor. It's not "Namer."
You do know that the baby boom was caused by soldiers returning from WWII, right? And those babies were the ones who were eligible for the Vietnam War draft when they turned 18.
There weren’t a lot of soldiers just coming back from WWII by the late 50s and early 60s, and kids born in those years are also the ones who turned 18 after the draft had ended.
Talk to some boomers who turned 18 before the draft had ended. They will tell you that their experiences were very different from those of people who turned 18 after that.
The draft ended in January 1973, so that would be anyone born in 1955 or later.
No. People born in 1955-64 are boomers.
Anonymous
03/15/2024 09:16
Subject: Retirees buying 4,000 sq ft houses?
Anonymous wrote:My folks live near all the colleges and grandkids have moved in for free rent
My kids are current college students and I don't know any that would want to move in with their grandparents during those years. If grandparents were looking to help out with housing during the college years, they could help pay for the student's dorm or apartment with friends.
Anonymous
03/15/2024 06:24
Subject: Re:Retirees buying 4,000 sq ft houses?
My dad says he’s too good to live in a smaller house at his age. He’s 70 and the house is 6000 sq ft.
I think this is a common attitude.
He does talk about selling to anyone but me and moving to The Villages sometimes but I don’t think he can afford it so that’s just a dream.
I think this is a common attitude.
He does talk about selling to anyone but me and moving to The Villages sometimes but I don’t think he can afford it so that’s just a dream.
Anonymous
03/15/2024 06:12
Subject: Retirees buying 4,000 sq ft houses?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm not 70 yet but I could see wanting space for my kids to come and comfortably stay with their partners and kids.
Be realistic. How often will this happen? How often do your kids want to come stay with you for multiple days? I love my parents but I have no interest in spending more than 2-3 days at their house because it's inconvenient not being in your own bed and kids not in their beds for more than few days unless we're on vacation, but grandma's house is not vacation. It'd be different if you have a summer house by the water but that's not what people are talking about here.
And it is much easier for parents to come stay with us instead of the other way around. I am not sacrificing vacation days to spend a week or two in suburban Maryland. My retired parents come see us. And this is the pattern I see among most of my friends and peers. The parents are the ones who visit the kids and grandkids.
I'm seeing fantasies on this thread. Not reality. Rattling around a great big empty house with multiple bedrooms for most of the year just so that your kids can have their own room over Thanksgiving seems silly to me.
NP who provided the list.
I have visitors… friends/family/kids 2x a month. Except when I’m travel to visit them.
Are you an introvert?
People can always come up with the stories and anecdotes to justify their thinkings, especially on the internet. Do what you want to do and certainly there must be some families that live like this. But at the same time let's not pretend this is a normal lifestyle for most retired/senior people even with large families.
I think it’s normal if you’re Italian or Hispanic or other family oriented cultures.
I think if you’re a WASP who left your small town never to look back and think that all gathering require top shelf liquor, expensive wine and caterers this world seems wildly odd. (Or if you’re an introvert)
No matter the size or composition of the gathering, top shelf liquor is important. Life's too short to drink sh!tty booze. Plus, if you're drinking rotgut, you just want the alcohol to get a buzz/drink, which is . . . not great.
We now return you to your regularly scheduled programming.
The 20yo do not appreciate top shelf and you probably think grey goose is top shelf, that’s middle btw.
Anonymous
03/15/2024 06:09
Subject: Retirees buying 4,000 sq ft houses?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm not 70 yet but I could see wanting space for my kids to come and comfortably stay with their partners and kids.
Be realistic. How often will this happen? How often do your kids want to come stay with you for multiple days? I love my parents but I have no interest in spending more than 2-3 days at their house because it's inconvenient not being in your own bed and kids not in their beds for more than few days unless we're on vacation, but grandma's house is not vacation. It'd be different if you have a summer house by the water but that's not what people are talking about here.
And it is much easier for parents to come stay with us instead of the other way around. I am not sacrificing vacation days to spend a week or two in suburban Maryland. My retired parents come see us. And this is the pattern I see among most of my friends and peers. The parents are the ones who visit the kids and grandkids.
I'm seeing fantasies on this thread. Not reality. Rattling around a great big empty house with multiple bedrooms for most of the year just so that your kids can have their own room over Thanksgiving seems silly to me.
NP who provided the list.
I have visitors… friends/family/kids 2x a month. Except when I’m travel to visit them.
Are you an introvert?
People can always come up with the stories and anecdotes to justify their thinkings, especially on the internet. Do what you want to do and certainly there must be some families that live like this. But at the same time let's not pretend this is a normal lifestyle for most retired/senior people even with large families.
I think it’s normal if you’re Italian or Hispanic or other family oriented cultures.
I think if you’re a WASP who left your small town never to look back and think that all gathering require top shelf liquor, expensive wine and caterers this world seems wildly odd. (Or if you’re an introvert)
It's always fun to resort to cliches to defend yourself, eh? Have a great time with your house, but the point still stands, it's not common nor desired for most retirees to live like this.
Most retiree can’t … and yes we do Sunday dinners it’s not a cliche. We do 7 fishes. Baptisms, 1st communion, confirmation are big too.
Just because not many people want to be around you doesn’t mean it’s odd other people like to celebrate friends and family often.
Anonymous
03/14/2024 21:30
Subject: Re:Retirees buying 4,000 sq ft houses?
Anonymous wrote:
We are in our 60s retired...live in a 10sqft home...love it! Yes...it has an elevator..was planned that way. Biggest benefit: our kids and grandkids love visiting the "estate" throughout the year..enjoying the pools, bonding with siblings, cousins, etc. F everyone who has a problem with it. We don't live in Europe or Asia!
Can’t tell if this is a troll impersonating a Boomer on the internet or a legit big-energy Boomer without an ounce of introspection (or SpellCheck) 🤔
I think they used to live in Europe or Asia and somehow did not learn to use punctuation in English either.