Anonymous
Post 03/03/2024 10:58     Subject: Montgomery for All Missing Middle presentation

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Anonymous wrote:I'm sure they will be completely surprised when a significant segment of the affluent county residents leave for Virginia due to failing schools, increasing crime, and high taxes.


No, Northern Virginia jurisdictions are pursuing the same policies, so if you can't stand it that there might be a duplex in your neighborhood, you will have to move farther away than that.


NoVa is already attracting affluent families. Most of NoVa is not dealing with MoCo silly types.
Anonymous
Post 03/03/2024 10:56     Subject: Montgomery for All Missing Middle presentation

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Anonymous wrote:It's not about having a duplex in my neighborhood. It is about the cumulative impact of having rapid population growth that will overwhelm our schools and public safety professionals. The county will also need to raise taxes to cover all of the infrastructure upgrades and build new schools. The policy proposal is not refined enough to balance competing priorities. It focuses on upzoning large swaths of the county without adequate consideration for the impact of these changes. It does not make sense to dramatically increase density in areas where there is limited or no access to public transit. IMO, it would be wiser to allow construction of duplex/triplex units in areas that are within a 1/2 mile radius of the metro station. This will mitigate the impact on roads by encouraging development in walkable areas. There are thousands of lots currently zoned R-60 or R-90 within a 1/2 radius of the metro station.


And there are miles of underutilized commercial buildings. Condos and apartments can be build there.


Commercial to mixed use commercial residential within x distance of rail seems like a logical start that’s least disruptive to the community.


That has already been done. However, why should multiunit housing be restricted to big buildings on big roads with lots of cars?


No, it has not. There are huge parts of the Pike that are underutilized and will never be office buildings or retail. And there is plenty of space to be creative along the Pike, including for green spaces, parks, open walkways, and not just on the Pike. SFH areas in MoCo are doing just fine and do not need to be disturbed. The real difference here is (1) whether the changes benefit larger contractors (who are better able to build Rose & Park areas) or smaller contractors (who are better able to turn SFHs into MF units), and (2) whether MoCo wants to keep targeting what MoCo politicians perceives to be the rich.



Anonymous
Post 03/03/2024 09:30     Subject: Montgomery for All Missing Middle presentation

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's not about having a duplex in my neighborhood. It is about the cumulative impact of having rapid population growth that will overwhelm our schools and public safety professionals. The county will also need to raise taxes to cover all of the infrastructure upgrades and build new schools. The policy proposal is not refined enough to balance competing priorities. It focuses on upzoning large swaths of the county without adequate consideration for the impact of these changes. It does not make sense to dramatically increase density in areas where there is limited or no access to public transit. IMO, it would be wiser to allow construction of duplex/triplex units in areas that are within a 1/2 mile radius of the metro station. This will mitigate the impact on roads by encouraging development in walkable areas. There are thousands of lots currently zoned R-60 or R-90 within a 1/2 radius of the metro station.


And there are miles of underutilized commercial buildings. Condos and apartments can be build there.


Commercial to mixed use commercial residential within x distance of rail seems like a logical start that’s least disruptive to the community.


That has already been done. However, why should multiunit housing be restricted to big buildings on big roads with lots of cars?
Anonymous
Post 03/03/2024 08:11     Subject: Montgomery for All Missing Middle presentation

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's not about having a duplex in my neighborhood. It is about the cumulative impact of having rapid population growth that will overwhelm our schools and public safety professionals. The county will also need to raise taxes to cover all of the infrastructure upgrades and build new schools. The policy proposal is not refined enough to balance competing priorities. It focuses on upzoning large swaths of the county without adequate consideration for the impact of these changes. It does not make sense to dramatically increase density in areas where there is limited or no access to public transit. IMO, it would be wiser to allow construction of duplex/triplex units in areas that are within a 1/2 mile radius of the metro station. This will mitigate the impact on roads by encouraging development in walkable areas. There are thousands of lots currently zoned R-60 or R-90 within a 1/2 radius of the metro station.


And there are miles of underutilized commercial buildings. Condos and apartments can be build there.


Commercial to mixed use commercial residential within x distance of rail seems like a logical start that’s least disruptive to the community.
Anonymous
Post 03/03/2024 08:03     Subject: Montgomery for All Missing Middle presentation

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm sure they will be completely surprised when a significant segment of the affluent county residents leave for Virginia due to failing schools, increasing crime, and high taxes.


No, Northern Virginia jurisdictions are pursuing the same policies, so if you can't stand it that there might be a duplex in your neighborhood, you will have to move farther away than that.


Well, one of them got a few hundred units over 5 years but now that’s caught up in a lawsuit. Anything built in the meantime might not stay built if the residents win. The other is TBD.
Anonymous
Post 03/02/2024 23:04     Subject: Montgomery for All Missing Middle presentation

Wouldn't adding more people naturally increase the amount of taxes collected?
Anonymous
Post 03/02/2024 22:38     Subject: Montgomery for All Missing Middle presentation

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Anonymous wrote:Every time I go by Chevy Chase Country Club and Columbia(?) Country Club while riding the X1 bus up Connecticut Ave, I wonder how many people could have homes if those massive properties had affordable high rise buildings on them instead of golf courses.

It would literally solve the housing problems of everyone in the DC area. It’s heartbreaking.


Wow - what a great idea. I see no problems with this whatsoever.


I am a member of one of those. If the county wants to pay me my $100k fee back then go for it. Otherwise, good luck.

Why do people think they have a right to live in the most expensive neighborhoods in the country?


Why on earth do you fancy the county owes you a refund? You don’t even own the property. You just pay for the privilege of using it. After it becomes a community, you’ll no longer need to pay you dues. Problem solved.

But refunding you your initiation fee for something you’ve already used, presumably for years? That’s nutty. Go away.

And as for “living next to expensive neighborhoods” - your home value has precisely ZERO to do with it l, you conceited buggar. It’s about two things only: 1) proximity to transit (purple and red lines, and 2) open space that is currently not occupied by existing homes.


No one gives a sh!t about your silly golf course, Brett. There’s a lot more people who need affordable housing than there are members of your club. And in the end that’s all that matters. Hopefully the county will just eminent domain those clubs and be done with it.


I am not sure on the specifics of those country clubs, but most members have an ownership stake in the property. I have one in mine (another DMV county club). The use of eminent domain would result in a massive lawsuit that would be a non-starter. I get where you are going with this, but it’s probably not worth it to argue over completely unrealistic options.
Anonymous
Post 03/02/2024 22:20     Subject: Montgomery for All Missing Middle presentation

Anonymous wrote:It's not about having a duplex in my neighborhood. It is about the cumulative impact of having rapid population growth that will overwhelm our schools and public safety professionals. The county will also need to raise taxes to cover all of the infrastructure upgrades and build new schools. The policy proposal is not refined enough to balance competing priorities. It focuses on upzoning large swaths of the county without adequate consideration for the impact of these changes. It does not make sense to dramatically increase density in areas where there is limited or no access to public transit. IMO, it would be wiser to allow construction of duplex/triplex units in areas that are within a 1/2 mile radius of the metro station. This will mitigate the impact on roads by encouraging development in walkable areas. There are thousands of lots currently zoned R-60 or R-90 within a 1/2 radius of the metro station.


And there are miles of underutilized commercial buildings. Condos and apartments can be build there.
Anonymous
Post 03/01/2024 10:07     Subject: Montgomery for All Missing Middle presentation

It's not about having a duplex in my neighborhood. It is about the cumulative impact of having rapid population growth that will overwhelm our schools and public safety professionals. The county will also need to raise taxes to cover all of the infrastructure upgrades and build new schools. The policy proposal is not refined enough to balance competing priorities. It focuses on upzoning large swaths of the county without adequate consideration for the impact of these changes. It does not make sense to dramatically increase density in areas where there is limited or no access to public transit. IMO, it would be wiser to allow construction of duplex/triplex units in areas that are within a 1/2 mile radius of the metro station. This will mitigate the impact on roads by encouraging development in walkable areas. There are thousands of lots currently zoned R-60 or R-90 within a 1/2 radius of the metro station.
Anonymous
Post 03/01/2024 08:33     Subject: Montgomery for All Missing Middle presentation

Anonymous wrote:I'm sure they will be completely surprised when a significant segment of the affluent county residents leave for Virginia due to failing schools, increasing crime, and high taxes.


No, Northern Virginia jurisdictions are pursuing the same policies, so if you can't stand it that there might be a duplex in your neighborhood, you will have to move farther away than that.
Anonymous
Post 03/01/2024 08:17     Subject: Montgomery for All Missing Middle presentation

I'm sure they will be completely surprised when a significant segment of the affluent county residents leave for Virginia due to failing schools, increasing crime, and high taxes.
Anonymous
Post 03/01/2024 08:10     Subject: Montgomery for All Missing Middle presentation

Anonymous wrote:This fits nicely with Moore's proposed housing bills. More density than whatever this zoning will be, and without protections for school capacity or other infrastructure, for projects within a mile of a rail station, on previoisly state-owned land or on non-profit-owned land, provided they hit certain affordability guidelines and get some funding support from the feds or the state.


“… without protections for school capacity or other infrastructure..”

Sounds about right.
Anonymous
Post 03/01/2024 03:31     Subject: Montgomery for All Missing Middle presentation

This fits nicely with Moore's proposed housing bills. More density than whatever this zoning will be, and without protections for school capacity or other infrastructure, for projects within a mile of a rail station, on previoisly state-owned land or on non-profit-owned land, provided they hit certain affordability guidelines and get some funding support from the feds or the state.
Anonymous
Post 02/29/2024 16:01     Subject: Montgomery for All Missing Middle presentation

Anonymous
Post 02/29/2024 12:16     Subject: Montgomery for All Missing Middle presentation

Anonymous wrote:I personally want to Manhattanize the entire urban corridor from Downtown Bethesda all the way to Germantown


Agreed. Also an airport in Kensington.