Anonymous wrote:I believe the words we are looking for is killed or murdered.
He didn’t just die.

Anonymous wrote:Lenin flee Tsarist Russia from 1907 to 1917. He returned a month after the Tsar was toppled. Navalny potentially could have done the same. When Putin dies perhaps there would be a power vacuum and Navalny’s time would have come. Now he will fade into obscurity just like:

Litveneko died of polonium-210 poisoning in London in 2006

Prigozhin former Wagner leader who supposedly negotiate a truce with Putin. His plane exploded

Nemstov, former opposition leader with ties to Yeltsin, shot four times in the back by an unknown assailant within view of the Kremlin

Anna Politkovskaya- journalist and critic of Putin shot in her apartment building in Moscow in 2006.

Plenty of others who allegedly have committed suicide or fallen out of tall buildings.

Navalny shouldn’t have returned. Good chance his body is never released or found because Putin wouldn’t want his gravesite to become a symbol of resistance.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s exhausting to see Americans make the same mistake over and over. Just because someone opposes our enemy doesn’t mean that person will be better or deserves support!

Navalny was a white nationalist who believed in the superiority of ethnic Russians to all other groups. He openly supported Putin’s annexation of Crimea and opposed returning to Ukraine land that Russia had illegally taken. He compared immigrants to cockroaches who had to be stamped out and expelled. As he rose to power, he cultivated a Neo-Nazi following by putting out a steady stream of wildly racist videos. Even after he came to international attention and distancing himself from racism became politically expedient, he still refused to wholesale disavow the views he had expressed for years and did not repudiate his Neo-Nazi followers. Instead, he tried to lie and delete his videos.

Does this mean his murder was right? No. Should Putin be held accountable for his murder? Of course! But should we mourn Navalny as a great hope who would have led Russia in a better direction? Hell no. He would have been a disastrous leader for Russia and would have continued the Ukraine war, brought overt white nationalism into the mainstream, and maintained Russian ethnonationalism as state position.

See, e.g., https://www.bbc.com/news/...181084.amp and https://www.aljazeera.com...oppositio

It’s the whole “murdered by the state” thing that people are most appalled by. But wow you were really waiting with bated breath to post this, like no one else knows this.

I have a big problem with seeing a hateful neo-Nazi lionized merely because he was enemies with Putin. You should too. Raise your standards.

Anonymous wrote:Why are Democrats so concerned about Russian neo-Nazi?

Anonymous wrote:It’s exhausting to see Americans make the same mistake over and over. Just because someone opposes our enemy doesn’t mean that person will be better or deserves support!

Navalny was a white nationalist who believed in the superiority of ethnic Russians to all other groups. He openly supported Putin’s annexation of Crimea and opposed returning to Ukraine land that Russia had illegally taken. He compared immigrants to cockroaches who had to be stamped out and expelled. As he rose to power, he cultivated a Neo-Nazi following by putting out a steady stream of wildly racist videos. Even after he came to international attention and distancing himself from racism became politically expedient, he still refused to wholesale disavow the views he had expressed for years and did not repudiate his Neo-Nazi followers. Instead, he tried to lie and delete his videos.

Does this mean his murder was right? No. Should Putin be held accountable for his murder? Of course! But should we mourn Navalny as a great hope who would have led Russia in a better direction? Hell no. He would have been a disastrous leader for Russia and would have continued the Ukraine war, brought overt white nationalism into the mainstream, and maintained Russian ethnonationalism as state position.

See, e.g., https://www.bbc.com/news/...181084.amp and https://www.aljazeera.com...oppositio

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Anonymous wrote:It’s exhausting to see Americans make the same mistake over and over. Just because someone opposes our enemy doesn’t mean that person will be better or deserves support!

Navalny was a white nationalist who believed in the superiority of ethnic Russians to all other groups. He openly supported Putin’s annexation of Crimea and opposed returning to Ukraine land that Russia had illegally taken. He compared immigrants to cockroaches who had to be stamped out and expelled. As he rose to power, he cultivated a Neo-Nazi following by putting out a steady stream of wildly racist videos. Even after he came to international attention and distancing himself from racism became politically expedient, he still refused to wholesale disavow the views he had expressed for years and did not repudiate his Neo-Nazi followers. Instead, he tried to lie and delete his videos.

Does this mean his murder was right? No. Should Putin be held accountable for his murder? Of course! But should we mourn Navalny as a great hope who would have led Russia in a better direction? Hell no. He would have been a disastrous leader for Russia and would have continued the Ukraine war, brought overt white nationalism into the mainstream, and maintained Russian ethnonationalism as state position.

See, e.g., https://www.bbc.com/news/...181084.amp and https://www.aljazeera.com...oppositio

It’s the whole “murdered by the state” thing that people are most appalled by. But wow you were really waiting with bated breath to post this, like no one else knows this.

Anonymous wrote:It’s exhausting to see Americans make the same mistake over and over. Just because someone opposes our enemy doesn’t mean that person will be better or deserves support!

Navalny was a white nationalist who believed in the superiority of ethnic Russians to all other groups. He openly supported Putin’s annexation of Crimea and opposed returning to Ukraine land that Russia had illegally taken. He compared immigrants to cockroaches who had to be stamped out and expelled. As he rose to power, he cultivated a Neo-Nazi following by putting out a steady stream of wildly racist videos. Even after he came to international attention and distancing himself from racism became politically expedient, he still refused to wholesale disavow the views he had expressed for years and did not repudiate his Neo-Nazi followers. Instead, he tried to lie and delete his videos.

Does this mean his murder was right? No. Should Putin be held accountable for his murder? Of course! But should we mourn Navalny as a great hope who would have led Russia in a better direction? Hell no. He would have been a disastrous leader for Russia and would have continued the Ukraine war, brought overt white nationalism into the mainstream, and maintained Russian ethnonationalism as state position.

See, e.g., https://www.bbc.com/news/...181084.amp and https://www.aljazeera.com...oppositio

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Anonymous wrote:HBO did a great documentary a year or so on him, I highly recommend it. I didn’t know much about him, and I do get the controversy around him but he was definitely poisoned by Putin’s agent on that airplane.

His wife was able to get him transferred to Germany and this is sort of where the documentary starts. He has 2 children. I couldn’t understand why he insisted on going back to Russia when he could have stayed in Germany. He gets on a plane, with press and his wife and as soon as they land in Russia he’s arrested and he was in custody ever since.

I don’t agree at all with Putin or Russian politics. But when you have children, to me it was crazy that he left them again. You just knew he would die. And now he has. It’s very sad. probably won’t change anything re how the world deals with Putin.

In Russia, having a job that opposes Putin's views carries a risk equivalent to what it would be here in the US — in the army, police, or fire department. Navalny chose the path of an (honest) politician in Russia. He didn't want to become one in safe exile and tell his people how to fight Putin. Instead, he returned to his people, believing in them. To understand more about the consequences of opposing Putin, look up names like Politkovskaya or Nemtsov. Currently, there are two opposition politicians in Russian prisons — Ilya Yashin and Vladimir Kara-Murza, also true heroes.

He will go down as Russia’s Mandela or Germany’s Scholl. He is now with the legends like King and Ghandi.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sophie_Scholl

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Somehow, to the traitor Trump, the US is the bad guy here?

Thanks for posting--I've been waiting to see an official response from him on the death of Navalny. THIS is the response? How is he making the leap from Navalny's sudden death to "WE ARE A NATION IN DECLINE A FAILING NATION!"? It makes no sense. Why can't he be normal like almost every other politician on this earth and express his dismay? Why aren't his supporters ever bothered that he refuses to criticize Putin?

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Somehow, to the traitor Trump, the US is the bad guy here?

Thanks for posting--I've been waiting to see an official response from him on the death of Navalny. THIS is the response? How is he making the leap from Navalny's sudden death to "WE ARE A NATION IN DECLINE A FAILING NATION!"? It makes no sense. Why can't he be normal like almost every other politician on this earth and express his dismay? Why aren't his supporters ever bothered that he refuses to criticize Putin?