Anonymous wrote:There’s also the question of what the public gets in exchange for these fat salaries, benefits, etc. The majority of public schools in DC are really terrible.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There’s also the question of what the public gets in exchange for these fat salaries, benefits, etc. The majority of public schools in DC are really terrible.
Are teachers truly to blame for all the problems of the school system?
Do we blame doctors when patients are diagnosed with cancer? Do we blame accountants for our bad financial decisions?
Yet we blame teachers when a neglected child cannot read on grade level.
Huh.
Ok well if teachers make no difference then you should be paid accordingly.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There’s also the question of what the public gets in exchange for these fat salaries, benefits, etc. The majority of public schools in DC are really terrible.
Are teachers truly to blame for all the problems of the school system?
Do we blame doctors when patients are diagnosed with cancer? Do we blame accountants for our bad financial decisions?
Yet we blame teachers when a neglected child cannot read on grade level.
Huh.
Ok well if teachers make no difference then you should be paid accordingly.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There’s also the question of what the public gets in exchange for these fat salaries, benefits, etc. The majority of public schools in DC are really terrible.
Are teachers truly to blame for all the problems of the school system?
Do we blame doctors when patients are diagnosed with cancer? Do we blame accountants for our bad financial decisions?
Yet we blame teachers when a neglected child cannot read on grade level.
Huh.
Anonymous wrote:DC pays way better than surrounding schools, but it still wasn’t enough to keep me there. No amount could. The lack of accountability for student behaviors (yes, even in Ward 3) and the disgusting pressure of the IMPACT system even for a “highly effective” teacher drove me and so many others out
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There’s also the question of what the public gets in exchange for these fat salaries, benefits, etc. The majority of public schools in DC are really terrible.
Teacher union gave up tenure years ago. So bad teachers CAN be fired.
But it still doesn't happen. I'm not sure what the barrier is, but it seems principals are still unable to let go of people once they are at the school.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There’s also the question of what the public gets in exchange for these fat salaries, benefits, etc. The majority of public schools in DC are really terrible.
Teacher union gave up tenure years ago. So bad teachers CAN be fired.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There’s also the question of what the public gets in exchange for these fat salaries, benefits, etc. The majority of public schools in DC are really terrible.
Are teachers truly to blame for all the problems of the school system?
Do we blame doctors when patients are diagnosed with cancer? Do we blame accountants for our bad financial decisions?
Yet we blame teachers when a neglected child cannot read on grade level.
Huh.
Anonymous wrote:There’s also the question of what the public gets in exchange for these fat salaries, benefits, etc. The majority of public schools in DC are really terrible.
Anonymous wrote:We just got our school budget. Our librarian makes $140k. Most teachers make about $130k and they work for 9 months per year and they get a pension.
I am happy for them but people have to stop with pressuring parents to give them gift cards, valentine presents and all the talk about them not being well paid.
This is not valid in other states. I am just talking about DCPS and probably DC metro and other big cities.
That’s it 🙂
Anonymous wrote:There’s also the question of what the public gets in exchange for these fat salaries, benefits, etc. The majority of public schools in DC are really terrible.
Anonymous wrote:We just got our school budget. Our librarian makes $140k. Most teachers make about $130k and they work for 9 months per year and they get a pension.
I am happy for them but people have to stop with pressuring parents to give them gift cards, valentine presents and all the talk about them not being well paid.
This is not valid in other states. I am just talking about DCPS and probably DC metro and other big cities.
That’s it 🙂
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We just got our school budget. Our librarian makes $140k. Most teachers make about $130k and they work for 9 months per year and they get a pension.
I am happy for them but people have to stop with pressuring parents to give them gift cards, valentine presents and all the talk about them not being well paid.
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This is not valid in other states. I am just talking about DCPS and probably DC metro and other big cities.
That’s it 🙂
Yup. I have 20 years experience and am in a senior role at my large nonprofit and make $126. We have had some lovely, lovely teachers and assistants when my kids were at a title 1 elementary, and I was generous with the gifts. But I no longer go overboard or give gifts to individual teachers in middle and hs. They are professionals!
A 20 year teacher with a masters makes 112. https://dcps.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/dcps/page_content/attachments/WTU%20FY20-FY23.pdf
I don't think I can put into words how maddening this thread is
How much do you think that other nonprofit professionals with 20 years of experience and a master's make, and who have similar benefits (except for the summar breaks, week at Christmas and Easter)? Who also have huge drawbacks in their work (which are hard to describe, relatively, because most of us can imagine what it's like to be in a classroom)?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't understand the repeated references to the high cost of living. Students' families--including the posters here--experience the same cost of living.
This! And many of us make less than DCPS teachers.
I don’t understand these arguments. Is it woe is me I make so little no one else should make more than me? Like why shouldn’t we want everyone to be well compensated?
My reading of the beginning of the thread was pushback against the DCUM idea that we should be giving teachers lots of monetary "thank you" gifts because they make so little. I'm a professional who makes a salary within (not at the very top or bottom) of the DCPS pay scales listed here, and before reading DCUM I thought that it was inappropriate to give professionals and public sector employees gifts over $20. This thread is all "$5 gift card!" but if you read the "what do you give teachers?" threads its never $5, it's like $50-100. If we are supposed to give teachers sums like that because they "make so little," you assume parents make much more, and many of us don't.
I'd be happy if middle class socially beneficial jobs like teaching made more! It's a hard job that is foundational to every community! I just can't make up the difference out of my own pocket, and think heartfelt cards from parents/kids and classroom supply contributions should be enough.