Anonymous
Post 02/12/2024 15:25     Subject: Trump full blown unamerican war monger

Anonymous wrote:Why doesn't isolationism work? We are a huge country with ample natural resources.

The rest of the world that cares whose ancestors owned a parcel of land thousands of years ago are the ones who can eff off.


Try reading some history books.

The main issue is the long term potential threat to our own boarders if some other superpower decided to roll over the rest of the world and we ignored it. The shorter term threat is to our economy, as we would not have markets for our companies to sell into, because said other superpowers would have their own resources and ability to "provide" for their people at the expense of ours. As such, our economy would shrink, people would be out of work etc.

So it doesn't matter what natural resources we have if we cannot have a viable economy. the days of being insular are long passed, and if we try to revert back, the shock to our economic and political system would be devastating.
Anonymous
Post 02/12/2024 15:01     Subject: Trump full blown unamerican war monger

Anonymous wrote:I love how we all get whipped up each and every time Trump makes an outrageous pronouncement. The right defends him as if he’s some deep thinker with novel, profound ideas, and the left (to which I belong) panics. While I take Trump at his word, he is also obviously playing all of us by trying to hog the headlines every day that he can. Expect there to be much more crazy talk coming from him on a regular basis.


If it was just Trump spouting off that'd be one thing, but the problem is that the rest of the GOP is all too willing to do his bidding.
Anonymous
Post 02/12/2024 14:25     Subject: Trump full blown unamerican war monger

Anonymous wrote:I love how we all get whipped up each and every time Trump makes an outrageous pronouncement. The right defends him as if he’s some deep thinker with novel, profound ideas, and the left (to which I belong) panics. While I take Trump at his word, he is also obviously playing all of us by trying to hog the headlines every day that he can. Expect there to be much more crazy talk coming from him on a regular basis.

No, he’s just telling you who he and his crasty party are.

Germany sees the GOP for who they are and what they represent.

Anonymous
Post 02/12/2024 14:12     Subject: Trump full blown unamerican war monger

I love how we all get whipped up each and every time Trump makes an outrageous pronouncement. The right defends him as if he’s some deep thinker with novel, profound ideas, and the left (to which I belong) panics. While I take Trump at his word, he is also obviously playing all of us by trying to hog the headlines every day that he can. Expect there to be much more crazy talk coming from him on a regular basis.
Anonymous
Post 02/12/2024 14:05     Subject: Trump full blown unamerican war monger

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why doesn't isolationism work? We are a huge country with ample natural resources.

The rest of the world that cares whose ancestors owned a parcel of land thousands of years ago are the ones who can eff off.

Why? Because this isn't 1950. We don't have "ample" natural resources". The birthrate in this country is only as "high" as it is because of immigrants.

Isolationist strategies do not work in a modern world.


Why not? We can't grow our own food, invent our own tech, produce our own goods and pay our people fair wages to do so? Too many rich globalists will be harmed?

Go to the grocery store right now. Look at where most of the produce comes from, especially the fruit. A lot of it comes from MX or South America.

Certain minerals that are needed for manufacturing aren't readily available in the US.

I would love to pay people fair wages. Do you honestly think Rs are for decent wages? Or is that perhaps what Dems support?

Also, don't forget that Trump owns a lot of business overseas, and he hires foreign workers. Not to mention how much the Kushners have made from helping the Chinese to buy their way into our country. Trump married two foreign women, one of which used chain migration to bring her entire family, a family that were party of the communist party in a Soviet backed country. The Trumps are the epitome of globalists.


I'm not voting for Trump.

Maybe we eat less fruit. Maybe we trade for minerals we need. I'm sure we have things those countries want. You think Mexico or India won't trade with us if we pull back on NATO?

Why does any of that necessitate us providing military support for a huge portion of the world.

Why is Trump encouraging Putin’s aggression against our allies?
Anonymous
Post 02/12/2024 14:02     Subject: Trump full blown unamerican war monger

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why doesn't isolationism work? We are a huge country with ample natural resources.

The rest of the world that cares whose ancestors owned a parcel of land thousands of years ago are the ones who can eff off.

Why? Because this isn't 1950. We don't have "ample" natural resources". The birthrate in this country is only as "high" as it is because of immigrants.

Isolationist strategies do not work in a modern world.


Why not? We can't grow our own food, invent our own tech, produce our own goods and pay our people fair wages to do so? Too many rich globalists will be harmed?

Go to the grocery store right now. Look at where most of the produce comes from, especially the fruit. A lot of it comes from MX or South America.

Certain minerals that are needed for manufacturing aren't readily available in the US.

I would love to pay people fair wages. Do you honestly think Rs are for decent wages? Or is that perhaps what Dems support?

Also, don't forget that Trump owns a lot of business overseas, and he hires foreign workers. Not to mention how much the Kushners have made from helping the Chinese to buy their way into our country. Trump married two foreign women, one of which used chain migration to bring her entire family, a family that were party of the communist party in a Soviet backed country. The Trumps are the epitome of globalists.


I'm not voting for Trump.

Maybe we eat less fruit. Maybe we trade for minerals we need. I'm sure we have things those countries want. You think Mexico or India won't trade with us if we pull back on NATO?

Why does any of that necessitate us providing military support for a huge portion of the world.
Anonymous
Post 02/12/2024 13:25     Subject: Trump full blown unamerican war monger

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why doesn't isolationism work? We are a huge country with ample natural resources.

The rest of the world that cares whose ancestors owned a parcel of land thousands of years ago are the ones who can eff off.

Why? Because this isn't 1950. We don't have "ample" natural resources". The birthrate in this country is only as "high" as it is because of immigrants.

Isolationist strategies do not work in a modern world.


Why not? We can't grow our own food, invent our own tech, produce our own goods and pay our people fair wages to do so? Too many rich globalists will be harmed?

Go to the grocery store right now. Look at where most of the produce comes from, especially the fruit. A lot of it comes from MX or South America.

Certain minerals that are needed for manufacturing aren't readily available in the US.

I would love to pay people fair wages. Do you honestly think Rs are for decent wages? Or is that perhaps what Dems support?

Also, don't forget that Trump owns a lot of business overseas, and he hires foreign workers. Not to mention how much the Kushners have made from helping the Chinese to buy their way into our country. Trump married two foreign women, one of which used chain migration to bring her entire family, a family that were party of the communist party in a Soviet backed country. The Trumps are the epitome of globalists.
Anonymous
Post 02/12/2024 13:21     Subject: Trump full blown unamerican war monger

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:“…we will never come to help you and to support you.”

Anyone who supports this fool is a traitor.


Make sure you sign all your kids up for the US Army Infantry- Europe needs bodies to fight for them.

This is interesting. There are a lot of MAGA in the enlisted, and many are stationed overseas, including Europe. Why do you suppose we have bases in Europe? Do the enlisted understand why?


No, we are “stupid bastards, slow and dull.”

Anonymous
Post 02/12/2024 13:19     Subject: Trump full blown unamerican war monger

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why doesn't isolationism work? We are a huge country with ample natural resources.

The rest of the world that cares whose ancestors owned a parcel of land thousands of years ago are the ones who can eff off.

Why? Because this isn't 1950. We don't have "ample" natural resources". The birthrate in this country is only as "high" as it is because of immigrants.

Isolationist strategies do not work in a modern world.


This isn't a conversation about immigration. This is a conversation about American weapons, troops and monetary support going to other countries.

The PP claimed we should have an isolationist strategy. That would include no immigrants.

Regardless, our economy and national security are dependent on a stable world.

It's really sad to see a party that once was touted to have strong foreign policies now reduced to isolationism.

Up is down, and down is up now.

-former R
Anonymous
Post 02/12/2024 13:18     Subject: Trump full blown unamerican war monger

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why doesn't isolationism work? We are a huge country with ample natural resources.

The rest of the world that cares whose ancestors owned a parcel of land thousands of years ago are the ones who can eff off.

Why? Because this isn't 1950. We don't have "ample" natural resources". The birthrate in this country is only as "high" as it is because of immigrants.

Isolationist strategies do not work in a modern world.


Why not? We can't grow our own food, invent our own tech, produce our own goods and pay our people fair wages to do so? Too many rich globalists will be harmed?
Anonymous
Post 02/12/2024 13:17     Subject: Trump full blown unamerican war monger

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:“…we will never come to help you and to support you.”

Anyone who supports this fool is a traitor.


Make sure you sign all your kids up for the US Army Infantry- Europe needs bodies to fight for them.

This is interesting. There are a lot of MAGA in the enlisted, and many are stationed overseas, including Europe. Why do you suppose we have bases in Europe? Do the enlisted understand why?
Anonymous
Post 02/12/2024 13:17     Subject: Trump full blown unamerican war monger

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why doesn't isolationism work? We are a huge country with ample natural resources.

The rest of the world that cares whose ancestors owned a parcel of land thousands of years ago are the ones who can eff off.

Why? Because this isn't 1950. We don't have "ample" natural resources". The birthrate in this country is only as "high" as it is because of immigrants.

Isolationist strategies do not work in a modern world.


This isn't a conversation about immigration. This is a conversation about American weapons, troops and monetary support going to other countries.
Anonymous
Post 02/12/2024 13:14     Subject: Trump full blown unamerican war monger

Anonymous wrote:I hate trump but he isn’t a war monger - he is pretty much a separatist.

He's like the French Vichy.. he'd just roll over claiming he was "negotiating". I mean, he's already given Putin so much more power over Europe, and even this country through the R party.
Anonymous
Post 02/12/2024 13:11     Subject: Trump full blown unamerican war monger

Anonymous wrote:Why doesn't isolationism work? We are a huge country with ample natural resources.

The rest of the world that cares whose ancestors owned a parcel of land thousands of years ago are the ones who can eff off.

Why? Because this isn't 1950. We don't have "ample" natural resources". The birthrate in this country is only as "high" as it is because of immigrants.

Isolationist strategies do not work in a modern world.
Anonymous
Post 02/12/2024 13:09     Subject: Trump full blown unamerican war monger

Anonymous wrote:If Europe is attacked, we definitely need to send our kids to die in a foreign war. The Europeans can sit back and relax knowing we will die to protect them.

I assume this is sarcasm.