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Anonymous wrote:I’m not sure Vanderbilt belongs on that list

Yes they do.

I’ve research this for my 12th grade son. He’s applying to a lot of the schools as a humanities major in a niche area because there is an admissions advantage.

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Anonymous wrote:Unless your kid’s transcript and resume indicate a strong interest (I.e. entire high school career) in the humanities, this will not work. Colleges well aware of this trick.

It does. We’re good.

Let's be real these colleges are not preparing students for the real world which is not humanities

You are an idiot and most likely not an adult over the age of 25.
The "real world" is comprised of many different jobs that are landed by a variety of majors. Humanities majors I know from either my current world or my undergrad (T10)peers: two different CEO's of nonprofits, both nationally recognized names; multiple lawyers; partner in a private equity firm, not a lawyer; Vice provost at a T15 LAC in our area; Owner of three restaurants.

What is the average/median income of humanities majors from your school…at graduation and ten years out? That is more relevant data than your examples above.

Also…a lawyer has their job due to law school…it’s irrelevant to include them in the discussion.

Your question isn’t as relevant as you think, because people actively want and seek different kind of jobs, which don’t all pay the same.

The question is really how well a major or school prepares a student to live out their intention. But that’s much, much harder to measure than the quantity of people in finance or tech within a certain major.

To this day, I would posit 80%+ kids just take the “best” job they can get from college…which usually means highest paying.

So it is relevant to look at median earnings because it indicates in general what jobs are available to that school’s grads.

You think that 80% of students from the caliber of schools being discussed in this thread have so little intention that they not only take whatever the highest paying job is offered to them, but also remain that passive about their career for ten years?

A different way of putting it: you think that students who choose teaching or museum curation or social service or journalism would have chosen Bain or McKinsey if only they’d been offered that path?

The kids who choose the former are either stupid, have family money, or both.

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Anonymous wrote:Unless your kid’s transcript and resume indicate a strong interest (I.e. entire high school career) in the humanities, this will not work. Colleges well aware of this trick.

It does. We’re good.

Let's be real these colleges are not preparing students for the real world which is not humanities

You are an idiot and most likely not an adult over the age of 25.
The "real world" is comprised of many different jobs that are landed by a variety of majors. Humanities majors I know from either my current world or my undergrad (T10)peers: two different CEO's of nonprofits, both nationally recognized names; multiple lawyers; partner in a private equity firm, not a lawyer; Vice provost at a T15 LAC in our area; Owner of three restaurants.

What is the average/median income of humanities majors from your school…at graduation and ten years out? That is more relevant data than your examples above.

Also…a lawyer has their job due to law school…it’s irrelevant to include them in the discussion.

Your question isn’t as relevant as you think, because people actively want and seek different kind of jobs, which don’t all pay the same.

The question is really how well a major or school prepares a student to live out their intention. But that’s much, much harder to measure than the quantity of people in finance or tech within a certain major.

To this day, I would posit 80%+ kids just take the “best” job they can get from college…which usually means highest paying.

So it is relevant to look at median earnings because it indicates in general what jobs are available to that school’s grads.

You think that 80% of students from the caliber of schools being discussed in this thread have so little intention that they not only take whatever the highest paying job is offered to them, but also remain that passive about their career for ten years?

A different way of putting it: you think that students who choose teaching or museum curation or social service or journalism would have chosen Bain or McKinsey if only they’d been offered that path?

The kids who choose the former are either stupid, have family money, or both.

Or have souls, unlike you apparently.

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Anonymous wrote:Unless your kid’s transcript and resume indicate a strong interest (I.e. entire high school career) in the humanities, this will not work. Colleges well aware of this trick.

It does. We’re good.

Let's be real these colleges are not preparing students for the real world which is not humanities

You are an idiot and most likely not an adult over the age of 25.
The "real world" is comprised of many different jobs that are landed by a variety of majors. Humanities majors I know from either my current world or my undergrad (T10)peers: two different CEO's of nonprofits, both nationally recognized names; multiple lawyers; partner in a private equity firm, not a lawyer; Vice provost at a T15 LAC in our area; Owner of three restaurants.

No there is only one way to live and only a narrow way to measure success and ordinal rankings are real and one should maximize every opportunity to gain advantage over others even if it requires deliberately misrepresenting oneself but whatever you do don’t call it dishonest and humanities are pointless and if you can’t measure the roi of something it has no value, did I miss anything

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Anonymous wrote:Unless your kid’s transcript and resume indicate a strong interest (I.e. entire high school career) in the humanities, this will not work. Colleges well aware of this trick.

It does. We’re good.

Let's be real these colleges are not preparing students for the real world which is not humanities

You are an idiot and most likely not an adult over the age of 25.
The "real world" is comprised of many different jobs that are landed by a variety of majors. Humanities majors I know from either my current world or my undergrad (T10)peers: two different CEO's of nonprofits, both nationally recognized names; multiple lawyers; partner in a private equity firm, not a lawyer; Vice provost at a T15 LAC in our area; Owner of three restaurants.

What is the average/median income of humanities majors from your school…at graduation and ten years out? That is more relevant data than your examples above.

Also…a lawyer has their job due to law school…it’s irrelevant to include them in the discussion.

Your question isn’t as relevant as you think, because people actively want and seek different kind of jobs, which don’t all pay the same.

The question is really how well a major or school prepares a student to live out their intention. But that’s much, much harder to measure than the quantity of people in finance or tech within a certain major.

To this day, I would posit 80%+ kids just take the “best” job they can get from college…which usually means highest paying.

So it is relevant to look at median earnings because it indicates in general what jobs are available to that school’s grads.

You think that 80% of students from the caliber of schools being discussed in this thread have so little intention that they not only take whatever the highest paying job is offered to them, but also remain that passive about their career for ten years?

A different way of putting it: you think that students who choose teaching or museum curation or social service or journalism would have chosen Bain or McKinsey if only they’d been offered that path?

The kids who choose the former are either stupid, have family money, or both.

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Anonymous wrote:Unless your kid’s transcript and resume indicate a strong interest (I.e. entire high school career) in the humanities, this will not work. Colleges well aware of this trick.

It does. We’re good.

Let's be real these colleges are not preparing students for the real world which is not humanities

You are an idiot and most likely not an adult over the age of 25.
The "real world" is comprised of many different jobs that are landed by a variety of majors. Humanities majors I know from either my current world or my undergrad (T10)peers: two different CEO's of nonprofits, both nationally recognized names; multiple lawyers; partner in a private equity firm, not a lawyer; Vice provost at a T15 LAC in our area; Owner of three restaurants.

What is the average/median income of humanities majors from your school…at graduation and ten years out? That is more relevant data than your examples above.

Also…a lawyer has their job due to law school…it’s irrelevant to include them in the discussion.

Your question isn’t as relevant as you think, because people actively want and seek different kind of jobs, which don’t all pay the same.

The question is really how well a major or school prepares a student to live out their intention. But that’s much, much harder to measure than the quantity of people in finance or tech within a certain major.

To this day, I would posit 80%+ kids just take the “best” job they can get from college…which usually means highest paying.

So it is relevant to look at median earnings because it indicates in general what jobs are available to that school’s grads.

You think that 80% of students from the caliber of schools being discussed in this thread have so little intention that they not only take whatever the highest paying job is offered to them, but also remain that passive about their career for ten years?

A different way of putting it: you think that students who choose teaching or museum curation or social service or journalism would have chosen Bain or McKinsey if only they’d been offered that path?

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Anonymous wrote:Unless your kid’s transcript and resume indicate a strong interest (I.e. entire high school career) in the humanities, this will not work. Colleges well aware of this trick.

It does. We’re good.

Let's be real these colleges are not preparing students for the real world which is not humanities

You are an idiot and most likely not an adult over the age of 25.
The "real world" is comprised of many different jobs that are landed by a variety of majors. Humanities majors I know from either my current world or my undergrad (T10)peers: two different CEO's of nonprofits, both nationally recognized names; multiple lawyers; partner in a private equity firm, not a lawyer; Vice provost at a T15 LAC in our area; Owner of three restaurants.

What is the average/median income of humanities majors from your school…at graduation and ten years out? That is more relevant data than your examples above.

Also…a lawyer has their job due to law school…it’s irrelevant to include them in the discussion.

Your question isn’t as relevant as you think, because people actively want and seek different kind of jobs, which don’t all pay the same.

The question is really how well a major or school prepares a student to live out their intention. But that’s much, much harder to measure than the quantity of people in finance or tech within a certain major.

To this day, I would posit 80%+ kids just take the “best” job they can get from college…which usually means highest paying.

So it is relevant to look at median earnings because it indicates in general what jobs are available to that school’s grads.

You think that 80% of students from the caliber of schools being discussed in this thread have so little intention that they not only take whatever the highest paying job is offered to them, but also remain that passive about their career for ten years?

A different way of putting it: you think that students who choose teaching or museum curation or social service or journalism would have chosen Bain or McKinsey if only they’d been offered that path?

If that’s true, then median income would be the only relevant measure. But I suspect there’s a flaw in your underlying premise.

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Anonymous wrote:Unless your kid’s transcript and resume indicate a strong interest (I.e. entire high school career) in the humanities, this will not work. Colleges well aware of this trick.

It does. We’re good.

Let's be real these colleges are not preparing students for the real world which is not humanities

You are an idiot and most likely not an adult over the age of 25.
The "real world" is comprised of many different jobs that are landed by a variety of majors. Humanities majors I know from either my current world or my undergrad (T10)peers: two different CEO's of nonprofits, both nationally recognized names; multiple lawyers; partner in a private equity firm, not a lawyer; Vice provost at a T15 LAC in our area; Owner of three restaurants.

What is the average/median income of humanities majors from your school…at graduation and ten years out? That is more relevant data than your examples above.

Also…a lawyer has their job due to law school…it’s irrelevant to include them in the discussion.

Your question isn’t as relevant as you think, because people actively want and seek different kind of jobs, which don’t all pay the same.

The question is really how well a major or school prepares a student to live out their intention. But that’s much, much harder to measure than the quantity of people in finance or tech within a certain major.

To this day, I would posit 80%+ kids just take the “best” job they can get from college…which usually means highest paying.

So it is relevant to look at median earnings because it indicates in general what jobs are available to that school’s grads.

You think that 80% of students from the caliber of schools being discussed in this thread have so little intention that they not only take whatever the highest paying job is offered to them, but also remain that passive about their career for ten years?

A different way of putting it: you think that students who choose teaching or museum curation or social service or journalism would have chosen Bain or McKinsey if only they’d been offered that path?

If that’s true, then median income would be the only relevant measure. But I suspect there’s a flaw in your underlying premise.

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Anonymous wrote:Unless your kid’s transcript and resume indicate a strong interest (I.e. entire high school career) in the humanities, this will not work. Colleges well aware of this trick.

It does. We’re good.

Let's be real these colleges are not preparing students for the real world which is not humanities

You are an idiot and most likely not an adult over the age of 25.
The "real world" is comprised of many different jobs that are landed by a variety of majors. Humanities majors I know from either my current world or my undergrad (T10)peers: two different CEO's of nonprofits, both nationally recognized names; multiple lawyers; partner in a private equity firm, not a lawyer; Vice provost at a T15 LAC in our area; Owner of three restaurants.

What is the average/median income of humanities majors from your school…at graduation and ten years out? That is more relevant data than your examples above.

Also…a lawyer has their job due to law school…it’s irrelevant to include them in the discussion.

Your question isn’t as relevant as you think, because people actively want and seek different kind of jobs, which don’t all pay the same.

The question is really how well a major or school prepares a student to live out their intention. But that’s much, much harder to measure than the quantity of people in finance or tech within a certain major.

To this day, I would posit 80%+ kids just take the “best” job they can get from college…which usually means highest paying.

So it is relevant to look at median earnings because it indicates in general what jobs are available to that school’s grads.

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Anonymous wrote:Unless your kid’s transcript and resume indicate a strong interest (I.e. entire high school career) in the humanities, this will not work. Colleges well aware of this trick.

It does. We’re good.

Let's be real these colleges are not preparing students for the real world which is not humanities

You are an idiot and most likely not an adult over the age of 25.
The "real world" is comprised of many different jobs that are landed by a variety of majors. Humanities majors I know from either my current world or my undergrad (T10)peers: two different CEO's of nonprofits, both nationally recognized names; multiple lawyers; partner in a private equity firm, not a lawyer; Vice provost at a T15 LAC in our area; Owner of three restaurants.

What is the average/median income of humanities majors from your school…at graduation and ten years out? That is more relevant data than your examples above.

Also…a lawyer has their job due to law school…it’s irrelevant to include them in the discussion.

Your question isn’t as relevant as you think, because people actively want and seek different kind of jobs, which don’t all pay the same.

The question is really how well a major or school prepares a student to live out their intention. But that’s much, much harder to measure than the quantity of people in finance or tech within a certain major.

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Anonymous wrote:Which selective schools offer an advantage to male applicants who are interested in the humanities or liberal arts?

So far, I’ve seen:

Yale
Brown
Emory
Tulane
Pomona
Swarthmore

Vanderbilt?

Humanities grads will be in much higher demand in a GenAI-enabled workforce than STEM geeks

No they won't. There will be a small subset of humanities grads who proofread and edit the AI-generated content, but all the humanities minions who used to generate content will have been replaced.

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Anonymous wrote:Unless your kid’s transcript and resume indicate a strong interest (I.e. entire high school career) in the humanities, this will not work. Colleges well aware of this trick.

It does. We’re good.

Let's be real these colleges are not preparing students for the real world which is not humanities

You are an idiot and most likely not an adult over the age of 25.
The "real world" is comprised of many different jobs that are landed by a variety of majors. Humanities majors I know from either my current world or my undergrad (T10)peers: two different CEO's of nonprofits, both nationally recognized names; multiple lawyers; partner in a private equity firm, not a lawyer; Vice provost at a T15 LAC in our area; Owner of three restaurants.

What is the average/median income of humanities majors from your school…at graduation and ten years out? That is more relevant data than your examples above.

Also…a lawyer has their job due to law school…it’s irrelevant to include them in the discussion.

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Anonymous wrote:Which selective schools offer an advantage to male applicants who are interested in the humanities or liberal arts?

So far, I’ve seen:

Yale
Brown
Emory
Tulane
Pomona
Swarthmore

Vanderbilt?

Def Swarthmore & Wesleyan.

He has to tailor the application. Your kid may want to highlight certain things in the activities section that they do not highlight for other schools.

When you are hyper-targeting like this, every single section of the app must be changed and tailored to the school.

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Anonymous wrote:Unless your kid’s transcript and resume indicate a strong interest (I.e. entire high school career) in the humanities, this will not work. Colleges well aware of this trick.

It does. We’re good.

Let's be real these colleges are not preparing students for the real world which is not humanities

You are an idiot and most likely not an adult over the age of 25.
The "real world" is comprised of many different jobs that are landed by a variety of majors. Humanities majors I know from either my current world or my undergrad (T10)peers: two different CEO's of nonprofits, both nationally recognized names; multiple lawyers; partner in a private equity firm, not a lawyer; Vice provost at a T15 LAC in our area; Owner of three restaurants.

I'm sure these are typical jobs of humanities grads in the real world.

they are for students from good schools.

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Anonymous wrote:Unless your kid’s transcript and resume indicate a strong interest (I.e. entire high school career) in the humanities, this will not work. Colleges well aware of this trick.

It does. We’re good.

Let's be real these colleges are not preparing students for the real world which is not humanities

You are an idiot and most likely not an adult over the age of 25.
The "real world" is comprised of many different jobs that are landed by a variety of majors. Humanities majors I know from either my current world or my undergrad (T10)peers: two different CEO's of nonprofits, both nationally recognized names; multiple lawyers; partner in a private equity firm, not a lawyer; Vice provost at a T15 LAC in our area; Owner of three restaurants.

I'm sure these are typical jobs of humanities grads in the real world.