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Anonymous wrote:2 of my friends said their kids who recently graduated from TJ had GPA in the high 4.4 to high 4.5 range (straight As) and about 7 AP/post AP classes through junior year which is about standard for the “most rigorous” course load at TJ. Sure there will be a handful of kids with a few more but that is about the most a kid can take at TJ given the number of AP courses offered and other course requirements and restrictions (esp compared to base FCPS schools). Difference can be if a kid took band/orchestra etc (unweighted courses until this year but for current students their transcripts will be adjusted) and language.

Some students don’t take a language (place out through language credit exam) or just take a year or two (including AP level) and instead take more weighted classes which can increase the GPA vs a kid who takes 3 years of a language (unweighted) starting with level 1

My kid graduated with all As (only As and A+s) from TJ several years ago. He had taken about 9-10 APs/post-APs by end of his junior year and the weighted gpa was around 4.57. He was in the top 10% and probably in the top 1%.

With the new admission process, the bar is much higher now. The kid's scores are through the roof!!

That's exactly why TJ student stats are so much higher now than just a few years ago. The new process selected based on talent not prep and early test access.

Umm, no.

The new process is basically a modified lottery.

Test scores are down.

They are trying to make up for it through grade inflation but with testing coming back it will be hard to disguise the drop in student quality.

AKA drop in affluence.

No, a drop in academic ability.

Stuyvesant high school is far poorer than tjhsst and they do just as well as tj did before the recent change.
But stuyvesant students are selected on a merit based admissions process.

The last class admitted to TJ before the change had less than 1% (0.6%) students from economically-disadvantaged families.

At TJ, it’s a drop in affluence.

Test scores dropped almost 100 points. Algebra 1 students went from very few to almost 1/3 of the class. Significant portions of the class are taking remedial classes.

This drop is obvious to everyone at the school now. It has led to some beneficial developments for the students there (less stress over grades) and to the community at large (less stress about getting in). But it's still a drop in academic ability and the new process was adopted to achieve racial balancing goals not to identify talent, it's basically a lottery, so unless the talent you are selecting for is luck...

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Anonymous wrote:2 of my friends said their kids who recently graduated from TJ had GPA in the high 4.4 to high 4.5 range (straight As) and about 7 AP/post AP classes through junior year which is about standard for the “most rigorous” course load at TJ. Sure there will be a handful of kids with a few more but that is about the most a kid can take at TJ given the number of AP courses offered and other course requirements and restrictions (esp compared to base FCPS schools). Difference can be if a kid took band/orchestra etc (unweighted courses until this year but for current students their transcripts will be adjusted) and language.

Some students don’t take a language (place out through language credit exam) or just take a year or two (including AP level) and instead take more weighted classes which can increase the GPA vs a kid who takes 3 years of a language (unweighted) starting with level 1

My kid graduated with all As (only As and A+s) from TJ several years ago. He had taken about 9-10 APs/post-APs by end of his junior year and the weighted gpa was around 4.57. He was in the top 10% and probably in the top 1%.

With the new admission process, the bar is much higher now. The kid's scores are through the roof!!

That's exactly why TJ student stats are so much higher now than just a few years ago. The new process selected based on talent not prep and early test access.

Umm, no.

The new process is basically a modified lottery.

Test scores are down.

They are trying to make up for it through grade inflation but with testing coming back it will be hard to disguise the drop in student quality.

AKA drop in affluence.

No, a drop in academic ability.

Stuyvesant high school is far poorer than tjhsst and they do just as well as tj did before the recent change.
But stuyvesant students are selected on a merit based admissions process.

The last class admitted to TJ before the change had less than 1% (0.6%) students from economically-disadvantaged families.

At TJ, it’s a drop in affluence.