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Post 11/16/2023 08:25     Subject: Re:Rob Reiner: a vote for No Labels, Bobby Kennedy, Cornel West or Jill Stein is a vote b for Trump

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Anonymous wrote:Marianne Williamson shouldn't be wasting time running. Dems should be promoting Biden, not attacking his record. Biden has brought competent administration and believes in the democratic process. But some are upset that he hasn't magically turned America into a land of sunshine and rainbows in one term.


The challenge is that many potential Biden voters want a moderation, but too many Dems consider a win as a mandate for progressive reforms. Many of those voters feel they’ve been unheard and burned too many times. They want to be seen as they are not what a perfunctory vote for far-left agendas.


just stop. this isn't remotely true. Yet Rs take a every win as a mandate to ban books, ban abortion and ban LGBTQ+ people


Thank you for being Exhibit A. It is like reliving Germany and tussling over Poland in the 19th and 20th centuries. Neither had Poland’s best interests at heart just like the diehard partisans in the US today.


show me the lie in my post, though. When Have Rs gained control of a state and not immediately tried to do these exact things in recent memory. They are NOT a moderate party in any way


I explained the problem to you as to why Dems are ALSO undesirable to many people. They are full of sh!t too and limiting freedoms like some dictatorships. You’re OK as long as you say the right things. It is scary Iron Curtain type stuff. Not necessarily Joe - he is a dying breed. I still remember reviewing letters in the mail that were already opened, and contents removed.


This is stupid. Democrats are opening your mail. Dumb take.


Tell me … did they repeal the Patriot Act implemented by Bush? Seems like they’ve fully embraced it.


This. Many of us want an antidote to the many bad decisions of recent decades. The Democrats like a lot of the GOP’s crap (GWOT, Patriot Act, endless wars, GFC bailouts, and more), but they (senior Dems+their friends) want the lucre from themselves. If they dealt with this crap, the present GOP would fold.


Omg, just give them more than a couple months to get to these things before you start whining, then?


These disasters are about decades of crap, dumbass. We need new faces and new minds.


That’s great, but can we focus on the fascists right in front of us and how we stop THEM first?

Yes, decades of crap MOSTLY caused by idiot Rs and their right wing media.

I understand the throw them all out sentiment, I do. But please understand that this country is actually teetering on the brink of disaster if the Rs take control on the federal level.

I realize focus is not a strong point for a lot of people out there, but I am literally begging you to get your head on straight and understand the looming disaster we are facing if we don’t get this right.

You can kiss anything else you want goodbye after next November.


Sweetie, you need to calm down and call your therapist. Maybe you need to up your meds or get more exercise.


I will not be told to calm down. The orange tyrant is literally using Nazi language and tactics, and you think I just need to talk to a therapist?

Screw that. I will continue to shout everywhere I can at people to wake the eff up.

NP. Your shouting and blathering on is doing nothing to get people to “wake the eff up”. If anything, people ignore and discount what you have to say because the way you say it is coming off as unhinged. But carry on.

PP comes off as reality based, not unhinged.

“Unhinged” is the reflexive urge to both sides when it is not both sides. I’ll say it quietly and calmly: “both sides” is the refuge of the unintelligent.


Both sides can be wrong at the same time. Pointing out weakness on one side doesn’t mean condoning or excusing the other side. Refusal to allow it to be said has a name. What is that called again?


One side is clearly far more wrong than the other. If you don't understand that, then you should watch more CSPAN. While the Democrats have been fighting for a functional government, the Republicans have been on the House and Senate floor wasting time peddling one ludicrous and unserious thing after another, whether ignorant destructive attempts to destroy our government with bills to defund the IRS, the NIH, the Consumer Product Safety Commission, the EPA and other agencies, to destroy public education while promoting sham for-profit schools, peddling science denial and everything else.

There is no "both sides" - the Republican side is objectively worse. And, this Republican funded and sponsored "no labels" nonsense is just a vote for more of that deranged destruction.


This is just delusional. If you need more votes, you should be listening to others and gaining their trust. Instead, you want to browbeat them into your trite viewpoint, when many tell you that viewpoint is so long in the tooth.

Again, this kind of simple-mindedness looks like a pro-Trump false flag! Let’s make sure the Democrats keep their appeal limited! Let’s treat the fate of hundreds of millions of Americans (and billions more worldwide) as a stupid binary game of the Tweedle Dee mafia (Dems) versus the Tweedle Dumb mafia (Repubs). At this point, it should be obvious that lazy paradigm has failed us.


And this is the nonsense that will put the traitorous fascist outright criminal back in power.
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Post 11/16/2023 08:23     Subject: Re:Rob Reiner: a vote for No Labels, Bobby Kennedy, Cornel West or Jill Stein is a vote b for Trump

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Anonymous wrote:Marianne Williamson shouldn't be wasting time running. Dems should be promoting Biden, not attacking his record. Biden has brought competent administration and believes in the democratic process. But some are upset that he hasn't magically turned America into a land of sunshine and rainbows in one term.


The challenge is that many potential Biden voters want a moderation, but too many Dems consider a win as a mandate for progressive reforms. Many of those voters feel they’ve been unheard and burned too many times. They want to be seen as they are not what a perfunctory vote for far-left agendas.


just stop. this isn't remotely true. Yet Rs take a every win as a mandate to ban books, ban abortion and ban LGBTQ+ people


Thank you for being Exhibit A. It is like reliving Germany and tussling over Poland in the 19th and 20th centuries. Neither had Poland’s best interests at heart just like the diehard partisans in the US today.


show me the lie in my post, though. When Have Rs gained control of a state and not immediately tried to do these exact things in recent memory. They are NOT a moderate party in any way


I explained the problem to you as to why Dems are ALSO undesirable to many people. They are full of sh!t too and limiting freedoms like some dictatorships. You’re OK as long as you say the right things. It is scary Iron Curtain type stuff. Not necessarily Joe - he is a dying breed. I still remember reviewing letters in the mail that were already opened, and contents removed.


This is stupid. Democrats are opening your mail. Dumb take.


Tell me … did they repeal the Patriot Act implemented by Bush? Seems like they’ve fully embraced it.


This. Many of us want an antidote to the many bad decisions of recent decades. The Democrats like a lot of the GOP’s crap (GWOT, Patriot Act, endless wars, GFC bailouts, and more), but they (senior Dems+their friends) want the lucre from themselves. If they dealt with this crap, the present GOP would fold.


Omg, just give them more than a couple months to get to these things before you start whining, then?


These disasters are about decades of crap, dumbass. We need new faces and new minds.


That’s great, but can we focus on the fascists right in front of us and how we stop THEM first?

Yes, decades of crap MOSTLY caused by idiot Rs and their right wing media.

I understand the throw them all out sentiment, I do. But please understand that this country is actually teetering on the brink of disaster if the Rs take control on the federal level.

I realize focus is not a strong point for a lot of people out there, but I am literally begging you to get your head on straight and understand the looming disaster we are facing if we don’t get this right.

You can kiss anything else you want goodbye after next November.


Sweetie, you need to calm down and call your therapist. Maybe you need to up your meds or get more exercise.


I will not be told to calm down. The orange tyrant is literally using Nazi language and tactics, and you think I just need to talk to a therapist?

Screw that. I will continue to shout everywhere I can at people to wake the eff up.

NP. Your shouting and blathering on is doing nothing to get people to “wake the eff up”. If anything, people ignore and discount what you have to say because the way you say it is coming off as unhinged. But carry on.

PP comes off as reality based, not unhinged.

“Unhinged” is the reflexive urge to both sides when it is not both sides. I’ll say it quietly and calmly: “both sides” is the refuge of the unintelligent.


Both sides can be wrong at the same time. Pointing out weakness on one side doesn’t mean condoning or excusing the other side. Refusal to allow it to be said has a name. What is that called again?


One side is clearly far more wrong than the other. If you don't understand that, then you should watch more CSPAN. While the Democrats have been fighting for a functional government, the Republicans have been on the House and Senate floor wasting time peddling one ludicrous and unserious thing after another, whether ignorant destructive attempts to destroy our government with bills to defund the IRS, the NIH, the Consumer Product Safety Commission, the EPA and other agencies, to destroy public education while promoting sham for-profit schools, peddling science denial and everything else.

There is no "both sides" - the Republican side is objectively worse. And, this Republican funded and sponsored "no labels" nonsense is just a vote for more of that deranged destruction.


This is just delusional. If you need more votes, you should be listening to others and gaining their trust. Instead, you want to browbeat them into your trite viewpoint, when many tell you that viewpoint is so long in the tooth.

Again, this kind of simple-mindedness looks like a pro-Trump false flag! Let’s make sure the Democrats keep their appeal limited! Let’s treat the fate of hundreds of millions of Americans (and billions more worldwide) as a stupid binary game of the Tweedle Dee mafia (Dems) versus the Tweedle Dumb mafia (Repubs). At this point, it should be obvious that lazy paradigm has failed us.
Anonymous
Post 11/16/2023 08:23     Subject: Rob Reiner: a vote for No Labels, Bobby Kennedy, Cornel West or Jill Stein is a vote for Trump

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Anonymous wrote:You can say it all you want, but I hope you are condemning the orange one and his conspirators more and loudly.

Sorry, all I see is a ticking clock and a sadly unintelligent public.



PP, you are obviously unintelligent yourself. Your post is dumb enough, I think you just might be a pro-Trump false flag.


I am highly amused over here. Ok, this “unintelligent” “senile boomer” has to get her elementary schooler ready for the day.

Have the day you deserve.
Anonymous
Post 11/16/2023 08:20     Subject: Rob Reiner: a vote for No Labels, Bobby Kennedy, Cornel West or Jill Stein is a vote for Trump

The vast majority of voters are not even paying attention yet. Don’t worry about it. The choice we have is extremely clear.
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Post 11/16/2023 08:20     Subject: Rob Reiner: a vote for No Labels, Bobby Kennedy, Cornel West or Jill Stein is a vote for Trump

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Anonymous wrote:Voters don't like being told this kind of stuff.



I'm smart enough to know there are people smarter than me and I listen to what those people have to say.

The internet has everyone thinking they're a g.d. genius, but most people aren't.


How...democratic of you.
Anonymous
Post 11/16/2023 08:18     Subject: Rob Reiner: a vote for No Labels, Bobby Kennedy, Cornel West or Jill Stein is a vote for Trump

I just watched that movie on Netflix the other day about the comet hurtling towards earth.

I feel like Kate/JLaw right now. “Are we not being clear?”

Fine, let the comet hit the Earth. All of this back and forth will be pointless then.

You have been warned. That is all we can do, I guess. “At least we tried”
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Post 11/16/2023 08:15     Subject: Rob Reiner: a vote for No Labels, Bobby Kennedy, Cornel West or Jill Stein is a vote for Trump

Anonymous wrote:You can say it all you want, but I hope you are condemning the orange one and his conspirators more and loudly.

Sorry, all I see is a ticking clock and a sadly unintelligent public.



PP, you are obviously unintelligent yourself. Your post is dumb enough, I think you just might be a pro-Trump false flag.
Anonymous
Post 11/16/2023 07:59     Subject: Rob Reiner: a vote for No Labels, Bobby Kennedy, Cornel West or Jill Stein is a vote for Trump

You can say it all you want, but I hope you are condemning the orange one and his conspirators more and loudly.

Sorry, all I see is a ticking clock and a sadly unintelligent public.

Anonymous
Post 11/16/2023 07:56     Subject: Re:Rob Reiner: a vote for No Labels, Bobby Kennedy, Cornel West or Jill Stein is a vote b for Trump

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Anonymous wrote:Marianne Williamson shouldn't be wasting time running. Dems should be promoting Biden, not attacking his record. Biden has brought competent administration and believes in the democratic process. But some are upset that he hasn't magically turned America into a land of sunshine and rainbows in one term.


The challenge is that many potential Biden voters want a moderation, but too many Dems consider a win as a mandate for progressive reforms. Many of those voters feel they’ve been unheard and burned too many times. They want to be seen as they are not what a perfunctory vote for far-left agendas.


just stop. this isn't remotely true. Yet Rs take a every win as a mandate to ban books, ban abortion and ban LGBTQ+ people


Thank you for being Exhibit A. It is like reliving Germany and tussling over Poland in the 19th and 20th centuries. Neither had Poland’s best interests at heart just like the diehard partisans in the US today.


show me the lie in my post, though. When Have Rs gained control of a state and not immediately tried to do these exact things in recent memory. They are NOT a moderate party in any way


I explained the problem to you as to why Dems are ALSO undesirable to many people. They are full of sh!t too and limiting freedoms like some dictatorships. You’re OK as long as you say the right things. It is scary Iron Curtain type stuff. Not necessarily Joe - he is a dying breed. I still remember reviewing letters in the mail that were already opened, and contents removed.


This is stupid. Democrats are opening your mail. Dumb take.


Tell me … did they repeal the Patriot Act implemented by Bush? Seems like they’ve fully embraced it.


This. Many of us want an antidote to the many bad decisions of recent decades. The Democrats like a lot of the GOP’s crap (GWOT, Patriot Act, endless wars, GFC bailouts, and more), but they (senior Dems+their friends) want the lucre from themselves. If they dealt with this crap, the present GOP would fold.


Omg, just give them more than a couple months to get to these things before you start whining, then?


These disasters are about decades of crap, dumbass. We need new faces and new minds.


That’s great, but can we focus on the fascists right in front of us and how we stop THEM first?

Yes, decades of crap MOSTLY caused by idiot Rs and their right wing media.

I understand the throw them all out sentiment, I do. But please understand that this country is actually teetering on the brink of disaster if the Rs take control on the federal level.

I realize focus is not a strong point for a lot of people out there, but I am literally begging you to get your head on straight and understand the looming disaster we are facing if we don’t get this right.

You can kiss anything else you want goodbye after next November.


Sweetie, you need to calm down and call your therapist. Maybe you need to up your meds or get more exercise.


I will not be told to calm down. The orange tyrant is literally using Nazi language and tactics, and you think I just need to talk to a therapist?

Screw that. I will continue to shout everywhere I can at people to wake the eff up.

NP. Your shouting and blathering on is doing nothing to get people to “wake the eff up”. If anything, people ignore and discount what you have to say because the way you say it is coming off as unhinged. But carry on.

PP comes off as reality based, not unhinged.

“Unhinged” is the reflexive urge to both sides when it is not both sides. I’ll say it quietly and calmly: “both sides” is the refuge of the unintelligent.


Both sides can be wrong at the same time. Pointing out weakness on one side doesn’t mean condoning or excusing the other side. Refusal to allow it to be said has a name. What is that called again?


One side is clearly far more wrong than the other. If you don't understand that, then you should watch more CSPAN. While the Democrats have been fighting for a functional government, the Republicans have been on the House and Senate floor wasting time peddling one ludicrous and unserious thing after another, whether ignorant destructive attempts to destroy our government with bills to defund the IRS, the NIH, the Consumer Product Safety Commission, the EPA and other agencies, to destroy public education while promoting sham for-profit schools, peddling science denial and everything else.

There is no "both sides" - the Republican side is objectively worse. And, this Republican funded and sponsored "no labels" nonsense is just a vote for more of that deranged destruction.
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Post 11/16/2023 07:34     Subject: Re:Rob Reiner: a vote for No Labels, Bobby Kennedy, Cornel West or Jill Stein is a vote b for Trump

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Anonymous wrote:Marianne Williamson shouldn't be wasting time running. Dems should be promoting Biden, not attacking his record. Biden has brought competent administration and believes in the democratic process. But some are upset that he hasn't magically turned America into a land of sunshine and rainbows in one term.


The challenge is that many potential Biden voters want a moderation, but too many Dems consider a win as a mandate for progressive reforms. Many of those voters feel they’ve been unheard and burned too many times. They want to be seen as they are not what a perfunctory vote for far-left agendas.


just stop. this isn't remotely true. Yet Rs take a every win as a mandate to ban books, ban abortion and ban LGBTQ+ people


Thank you for being Exhibit A. It is like reliving Germany and tussling over Poland in the 19th and 20th centuries. Neither had Poland’s best interests at heart just like the diehard partisans in the US today.


show me the lie in my post, though. When Have Rs gained control of a state and not immediately tried to do these exact things in recent memory. They are NOT a moderate party in any way


I explained the problem to you as to why Dems are ALSO undesirable to many people. They are full of sh!t too and limiting freedoms like some dictatorships. You’re OK as long as you say the right things. It is scary Iron Curtain type stuff. Not necessarily Joe - he is a dying breed. I still remember reviewing letters in the mail that were already opened, and contents removed.


This is stupid. Democrats are opening your mail. Dumb take.


Tell me … did they repeal the Patriot Act implemented by Bush? Seems like they’ve fully embraced it.


This. Many of us want an antidote to the many bad decisions of recent decades. The Democrats like a lot of the GOP’s crap (GWOT, Patriot Act, endless wars, GFC bailouts, and more), but they (senior Dems+their friends) want the lucre from themselves. If they dealt with this crap, the present GOP would fold.


Omg, just give them more than a couple months to get to these things before you start whining, then?


These disasters are about decades of crap, dumbass. We need new faces and new minds.


That’s great, but can we focus on the fascists right in front of us and how we stop THEM first?

Yes, decades of crap MOSTLY caused by idiot Rs and their right wing media.

I understand the throw them all out sentiment, I do. But please understand that this country is actually teetering on the brink of disaster if the Rs take control on the federal level.

I realize focus is not a strong point for a lot of people out there, but I am literally begging you to get your head on straight and understand the looming disaster we are facing if we don’t get this right.

You can kiss anything else you want goodbye after next November.


Sweetie, you need to calm down and call your therapist. Maybe you need to up your meds or get more exercise.


I will not be told to calm down. The orange tyrant is literally using Nazi language and tactics, and you think I just need to talk to a therapist?

Screw that. I will continue to shout everywhere I can at people to wake the eff up.

NP. Your shouting and blathering on is doing nothing to get people to “wake the eff up”. If anything, people ignore and discount what you have to say because the way you say it is coming off as unhinged. But carry on.

PP comes off as reality based, not unhinged.

“Unhinged” is the reflexive urge to both sides when it is not both sides. I’ll say it quietly and calmly: “both sides” is the refuge of the unintelligent.


Sounds like you are high on your own supply. Are you willing to certify the Democrats are all good? I am happy to point to awfulness within the GOP. But you have real problems if you can’t face that the Democrats (especially the leadership, to be clear) are substantially responsible for our political problems.


Round and round and round we go

We don’t have time for this. We really don’t. Republicans are perfectly ok with fascism and supporting a man using the same language that directly led to the Holocaust. We have to stop them.

FOCUS!


We’ve already ODed on your world’s foolishness: that’s the first thing to FOCUS on, you fool!


Great - navel gaze your way to living in the modern day equivalent of Nazi Germany. Because I’m sure all this will be fixed in that scenario.

And I’m the fool. Ok, then. /s



The navel gazing fools are folks like you who don’t just refuse to learn, but attempt to pillory those of us who have learned. Luckily, you sound stupid enough, maybe I shouldn’t worry about a senile boomer keyboard warrior!

FYI, your Nazi Germany bit (when will American middlebrows stop thinking that’s all that matters?) would be less silly if you could admit that Biden has been aiding our descent into fascism, including his recent blank-check support for Bibi’s genocide.
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Post 11/16/2023 06:40     Subject: Re:Rob Reiner: a vote for No Labels, Bobby Kennedy, Cornel West or Jill Stein is a vote b for Trump

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Anonymous wrote:Marianne Williamson shouldn't be wasting time running. Dems should be promoting Biden, not attacking his record. Biden has brought competent administration and believes in the democratic process. But some are upset that he hasn't magically turned America into a land of sunshine and rainbows in one term.


The challenge is that many potential Biden voters want a moderation, but too many Dems consider a win as a mandate for progressive reforms. Many of those voters feel they’ve been unheard and burned too many times. They want to be seen as they are not what a perfunctory vote for far-left agendas.


just stop. this isn't remotely true. Yet Rs take a every win as a mandate to ban books, ban abortion and ban LGBTQ+ people


Thank you for being Exhibit A. It is like reliving Germany and tussling over Poland in the 19th and 20th centuries. Neither had Poland’s best interests at heart just like the diehard partisans in the US today.


show me the lie in my post, though. When Have Rs gained control of a state and not immediately tried to do these exact things in recent memory. They are NOT a moderate party in any way


I explained the problem to you as to why Dems are ALSO undesirable to many people. They are full of sh!t too and limiting freedoms like some dictatorships. You’re OK as long as you say the right things. It is scary Iron Curtain type stuff. Not necessarily Joe - he is a dying breed. I still remember reviewing letters in the mail that were already opened, and contents removed.


This is stupid. Democrats are opening your mail. Dumb take.


Tell me … did they repeal the Patriot Act implemented by Bush? Seems like they’ve fully embraced it.


This. Many of us want an antidote to the many bad decisions of recent decades. The Democrats like a lot of the GOP’s crap (GWOT, Patriot Act, endless wars, GFC bailouts, and more), but they (senior Dems+their friends) want the lucre from themselves. If they dealt with this crap, the present GOP would fold.


Omg, just give them more than a couple months to get to these things before you start whining, then?


These disasters are about decades of crap, dumbass. We need new faces and new minds.


That’s great, but can we focus on the fascists right in front of us and how we stop THEM first?

Yes, decades of crap MOSTLY caused by idiot Rs and their right wing media.

I understand the throw them all out sentiment, I do. But please understand that this country is actually teetering on the brink of disaster if the Rs take control on the federal level.

I realize focus is not a strong point for a lot of people out there, but I am literally begging you to get your head on straight and understand the looming disaster we are facing if we don’t get this right.

You can kiss anything else you want goodbye after next November.


Sweetie, you need to calm down and call your therapist. Maybe you need to up your meds or get more exercise.


I will not be told to calm down. The orange tyrant is literally using Nazi language and tactics, and you think I just need to talk to a therapist?

Screw that. I will continue to shout everywhere I can at people to wake the eff up.

NP. Your shouting and blathering on is doing nothing to get people to “wake the eff up”. If anything, people ignore and discount what you have to say because the way you say it is coming off as unhinged. But carry on.

PP comes off as reality based, not unhinged.

“Unhinged” is the reflexive urge to both sides when it is not both sides. I’ll say it quietly and calmly: “both sides” is the refuge of the unintelligent.


Sounds like you are high on your own supply. Are you willing to certify the Democrats are all good? I am happy to point to awfulness within the GOP. But you have real problems if you can’t face that the Democrats (especially the leadership, to be clear) are substantially responsible for our political problems.


Round and round and round we go

We don’t have time for this. We really don’t. Republicans are perfectly ok with fascism and supporting a man using the same language that directly led to the Holocaust. We have to stop them.

FOCUS!


We’ve already ODed on your world’s foolishness: that’s the first thing to FOCUS on, you fool!


Great - navel gaze your way to living in the modern day equivalent of Nazi Germany. Because I’m sure all this will be fixed in that scenario.

And I’m the fool. Ok, then. /s

Anonymous
Post 11/16/2023 06:36     Subject: Rob Reiner: a vote for No Labels, Bobby Kennedy, Cornel West or Jill Stein is a vote for Trump

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Anonymous wrote:"Biden only gave us 75% of what we want. Therefore he's no better than Trump."

With this attitude, we're doomed.



Right? Good gravy, people.


If it’s not working for people that’s all matters. If you think Biden is 75% to where he should be, you are deeply unserious.
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Post 11/16/2023 06:34     Subject: Re:Rob Reiner: a vote for No Labels, Bobby Kennedy, Cornel West or Jill Stein is a vote b for Trump

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Anonymous wrote:Marianne Williamson shouldn't be wasting time running. Dems should be promoting Biden, not attacking his record. Biden has brought competent administration and believes in the democratic process. But some are upset that he hasn't magically turned America into a land of sunshine and rainbows in one term.


The challenge is that many potential Biden voters want a moderation, but too many Dems consider a win as a mandate for progressive reforms. Many of those voters feel they’ve been unheard and burned too many times. They want to be seen as they are not what a perfunctory vote for far-left agendas.


just stop. this isn't remotely true. Yet Rs take a every win as a mandate to ban books, ban abortion and ban LGBTQ+ people


Thank you for being Exhibit A. It is like reliving Germany and tussling over Poland in the 19th and 20th centuries. Neither had Poland’s best interests at heart just like the diehard partisans in the US today.


show me the lie in my post, though. When Have Rs gained control of a state and not immediately tried to do these exact things in recent memory. They are NOT a moderate party in any way


I explained the problem to you as to why Dems are ALSO undesirable to many people. They are full of sh!t too and limiting freedoms like some dictatorships. You’re OK as long as you say the right things. It is scary Iron Curtain type stuff. Not necessarily Joe - he is a dying breed. I still remember reviewing letters in the mail that were already opened, and contents removed.


This is stupid. Democrats are opening your mail. Dumb take.


Tell me … did they repeal the Patriot Act implemented by Bush? Seems like they’ve fully embraced it.


This. Many of us want an antidote to the many bad decisions of recent decades. The Democrats like a lot of the GOP’s crap (GWOT, Patriot Act, endless wars, GFC bailouts, and more), but they (senior Dems+their friends) want the lucre from themselves. If they dealt with this crap, the present GOP would fold.


Omg, just give them more than a couple months to get to these things before you start whining, then?


These disasters are about decades of crap, dumbass. We need new faces and new minds.


That’s great, but can we focus on the fascists right in front of us and how we stop THEM first?

Yes, decades of crap MOSTLY caused by idiot Rs and their right wing media.

I understand the throw them all out sentiment, I do. But please understand that this country is actually teetering on the brink of disaster if the Rs take control on the federal level.

I realize focus is not a strong point for a lot of people out there, but I am literally begging you to get your head on straight and understand the looming disaster we are facing if we don’t get this right.

You can kiss anything else you want goodbye after next November.


Sweetie, you need to calm down and call your therapist. Maybe you need to up your meds or get more exercise.


I will not be told to calm down. The orange tyrant is literally using Nazi language and tactics, and you think I just need to talk to a therapist?

Screw that. I will continue to shout everywhere I can at people to wake the eff up.

NP. Your shouting and blathering on is doing nothing to get people to “wake the eff up”. If anything, people ignore and discount what you have to say because the way you say it is coming off as unhinged. But carry on.

PP comes off as reality based, not unhinged.

“Unhinged” is the reflexive urge to both sides when it is not both sides. I’ll say it quietly and calmly: “both sides” is the refuge of the unintelligent.


Sounds like you are high on your own supply. Are you willing to certify the Democrats are all good? I am happy to point to awfulness within the GOP. But you have real problems if you can’t face that the Democrats (especially the leadership, to be clear) are substantially responsible for our political problems.


Round and round and round we go

We don’t have time for this. We really don’t. Republicans are perfectly ok with fascism and supporting a man using the same language that directly led to the Holocaust. We have to stop them.

FOCUS!


We’ve already ODed on your world’s foolishness: that’s the first thing to FOCUS on, you fool!
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Post 11/16/2023 06:32     Subject: Rob Reiner: a vote for No Labels, Bobby Kennedy, Cornel West or Jill Stein is a vote for Trump

Anonymous wrote:"Biden only gave us 75% of what we want. Therefore he's no better than Trump."

With this attitude, we're doomed.



Right? Good gravy, people.
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Post 11/16/2023 06:30     Subject: Re:Rob Reiner: a vote for No Labels, Bobby Kennedy, Cornel West or Jill Stein is a vote b for Trump

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Anonymous wrote:Marianne Williamson shouldn't be wasting time running. Dems should be promoting Biden, not attacking his record. Biden has brought competent administration and believes in the democratic process. But some are upset that he hasn't magically turned America into a land of sunshine and rainbows in one term.


The challenge is that many potential Biden voters want a moderation, but too many Dems consider a win as a mandate for progressive reforms. Many of those voters feel they’ve been unheard and burned too many times. They want to be seen as they are not what a perfunctory vote for far-left agendas.


just stop. this isn't remotely true. Yet Rs take a every win as a mandate to ban books, ban abortion and ban LGBTQ+ people


Thank you for being Exhibit A. It is like reliving Germany and tussling over Poland in the 19th and 20th centuries. Neither had Poland’s best interests at heart just like the diehard partisans in the US today.


show me the lie in my post, though. When Have Rs gained control of a state and not immediately tried to do these exact things in recent memory. They are NOT a moderate party in any way


I explained the problem to you as to why Dems are ALSO undesirable to many people. They are full of sh!t too and limiting freedoms like some dictatorships. You’re OK as long as you say the right things. It is scary Iron Curtain type stuff. Not necessarily Joe - he is a dying breed. I still remember reviewing letters in the mail that were already opened, and contents removed.


This is stupid. Democrats are opening your mail. Dumb take.


Tell me … did they repeal the Patriot Act implemented by Bush? Seems like they’ve fully embraced it.


This. Many of us want an antidote to the many bad decisions of recent decades. The Democrats like a lot of the GOP’s crap (GWOT, Patriot Act, endless wars, GFC bailouts, and more), but they (senior Dems+their friends) want the lucre from themselves. If they dealt with this crap, the present GOP would fold.


Omg, just give them more than a couple months to get to these things before you start whining, then?


These disasters are about decades of crap, dumbass. We need new faces and new minds.


That’s great, but can we focus on the fascists right in front of us and how we stop THEM first?

Yes, decades of crap MOSTLY caused by idiot Rs and their right wing media.

I understand the throw them all out sentiment, I do. But please understand that this country is actually teetering on the brink of disaster if the Rs take control on the federal level.

I realize focus is not a strong point for a lot of people out there, but I am literally begging you to get your head on straight and understand the looming disaster we are facing if we don’t get this right.

You can kiss anything else you want goodbye after next November.


Sweetie, you need to calm down and call your therapist. Maybe you need to up your meds or get more exercise.


I will not be told to calm down. The orange tyrant is literally using Nazi language and tactics, and you think I just need to talk to a therapist?

Screw that. I will continue to shout everywhere I can at people to wake the eff up.

NP. Your shouting and blathering on is doing nothing to get people to “wake the eff up”. If anything, people ignore and discount what you have to say because the way you say it is coming off as unhinged. But carry on.

PP comes off as reality based, not unhinged.

“Unhinged” is the reflexive urge to both sides when it is not both sides. I’ll say it quietly and calmly: “both sides” is the refuge of the unintelligent.


Sounds like you are high on your own supply. Are you willing to certify the Democrats are all good? I am happy to point to awfulness within the GOP. But you have real problems if you can’t face that the Democrats (especially the leadership, to be clear) are substantially responsible for our political problems.


Round and round and round we go

We don’t have time for this. We really don’t. Republicans are perfectly ok with fascism and supporting a man using the same language that directly led to the Holocaust. We have to stop them.

FOCUS!