Anonymous
Post 12/01/2023 20:23     Subject: Gen Z crying about having to work 9-5
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Every boomer I’ve worked with takes literally 10x as long to produce work as their Millenial/Z coworkers. I could hire one Gen Z to do the work of 3 boomers; boomers just do not have the technological experience to navigate new systems quickly, and many require a lot of handholding to master rudimentary computer skills. The sad fact is that most boomer in the workforce have no clue how they are perceived or how much their younger coworkers “work around” that ineffeciency. So when boomers complain about lazy Gen Z, it’s hard not to roll your eyes; like yes Beatrice, you work 40 hours a week and 20 of them is figuring out how to edit a PDF for docusign while your millenial boss quietly asks your Gen Z coworker to just “do it and send it me directly”.


If you are fortunate to remain healthy and live long enough, then some day that will be you. I know you swear it won't, but I'm confident those boomers thought the same.

I certainly will! But unlike boomers, I won’t be deluded enough to think my “40 hour week” doesn’t actually represent half the productivity of my younger cohort who make 3/4 of my salary. The fact that boomers don’t recognize the audacity of their “hard work” claims when everyone around them is forced to manage their technical incompetencies is a symptom of the hopelessness of that entire generation. But yes, we will continue to listen to you blather about lazy Gen Z and hopefully you can continue your “hard” work of figuring out Excel spreadsheets while we just quietly finish the job.



I LOVE how Gen X doesn’t even exist in your little dream worlds. Just like we Gen Xers were told growing up: You are just not going to matter. No one cares! In our younger years, we were upset, but now we can just sit back and laugh!
Anonymous
Post 12/01/2023 20:22     Subject: Re:Gen Z crying about having to work 9-5
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Honest question - did the original concept of working 9-5 include lunch, whether it is paid or unpaid? It seems like the traditional 9-5 included a lunch "hour" which is different from today's 9 to 5:30 (30 min. unpaid lunch) or 9-6 (with an unpaid hour lunch) plus longer commutes.

the commute thing is recent to the mid 20th century when people started to move out into the burbs.

There are lots of people who live close to where they work, but because jobs are concentrated in certain areas, and most people want to live near where they work, that's why the col is so high in those ares.

So, your choices are:
1. lower your living standards and live closer to work
2. deal with what you got
3. find a job near where you work

Maybe in 30 years when Gen Z are managers and AI has taken over lots of jobs, and we are in flying cars, things will change, but for now, this is what we got.


I think the increase in housing costs is recent though. Twenty or thirty years ago young people could afford to live in cities close to their jobs. I worked as a receptionist and lived in San Francisco just a 15 minute bus ride from downtown. That would be impossible today.


Funny - I graduated college 35 years ago in the Bay Area and we all lived in dumps with roommates and considered ourselves lucky to afford anything.
Anonymous
Post 12/01/2023 10:45     Subject: Re:Gen Z crying about having to work 9-5
Gen Z is extremely entitled.

And addicted to their phones!
Anonymous
Post 11/28/2023 21:43     Subject: Gen Z crying about having to work 9-5
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Every boomer I’ve worked with takes literally 10x as long to produce work as their Millenial/Z coworkers. I could hire one Gen Z to do the work of 3 boomers; boomers just do not have the technological experience to navigate new systems quickly, and many require a lot of handholding to master rudimentary computer skills. The sad fact is that most boomer in the workforce have no clue how they are perceived or how much their younger coworkers “work around” that ineffeciency. So when boomers complain about lazy Gen Z, it’s hard not to roll your eyes; like yes Beatrice, you work 40 hours a week and 20 of them is figuring out how to edit a PDF for docusign while your millenial boss quietly asks your Gen Z coworker to just “do it and send it me directly”.


So you can create a signature page. But you have no idea how to do the deal or how to execute it. You are soon to take over the world!


I am with PP…boomers don’t know how to do the deals or execute them either.

Look, there are boomer owners of P/E shops, but even they no longer do the deals anymore and leave that to the young guns.
Anonymous
Post 11/28/2023 18:47     Subject: Gen Z crying about having to work 9-5
Anonymous wrote:Every boomer I’ve worked with takes literally 10x as long to produce work as their Millenial/Z coworkers. I could hire one Gen Z to do the work of 3 boomers; boomers just do not have the technological experience to navigate new systems quickly, and many require a lot of handholding to master rudimentary computer skills. The sad fact is that most boomer in the workforce have no clue how they are perceived or how much their younger coworkers “work around” that ineffeciency. So when boomers complain about lazy Gen Z, it’s hard not to roll your eyes; like yes Beatrice, you work 40 hours a week and 20 of them is figuring out how to edit a PDF for docusign while your millenial boss quietly asks your Gen Z coworker to just “do it and send it me directly”.


So you can create a signature page. But you have no idea how to do the deal or how to execute it. You are soon to take over the world!
Anonymous
Post 11/28/2023 15:44     Subject: Gen Z crying about having to work 9-5
Anonymous wrote:Every boomer I’ve worked with takes literally 10x as long to produce work as their Millenial/Z coworkers. I could hire one Gen Z to do the work of 3 boomers; boomers just do not have the technological experience to navigate new systems quickly, and many require a lot of handholding to master rudimentary computer skills. The sad fact is that most boomer in the workforce have no clue how they are perceived or how much their younger coworkers “work around” that ineffeciency. So when boomers complain about lazy Gen Z, it’s hard not to roll your eyes; like yes Beatrice, you work 40 hours a week and 20 of them is figuring out how to edit a PDF for docusign while your millenial boss quietly asks your Gen Z coworker to just “do it and send it me directly”.



Transient skills. AI to replace quickly. AI sees you as non-essential.
Anonymous
Post 11/28/2023 11:59     Subject: Gen Z crying about having to work 9-5
Gen Z has renamed itself.

The Petulant and Whiney Generation
Anonymous
Post 11/23/2023 11:30     Subject: Re:Gen Z crying about having to work 9-5
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't understand the people who are defending this Gen-Z whiner.

The alternative is...what, exactly? Work less for less pay? Move to a smaller/cheaper location with a shorter commute? Start her own business? Look for work-at-home jobs? She could do any of those. Taking a full-time 9-5 job in an expensive city without being able to afford to live near that job location is a choice.

I will never understand people who complain about conditions that they created for themselves.


+1

Same. People practically want full time pay for part time work, but only if the job is remote. GTFOH. Spoiled.


I don't understand what the problem is either: I, too, moved to NYC in my twenties for a job, and even though I worked longer hours than Brielle did for very little money, I still had plenty of time after work to go to dinner, work out, etc. She could be living it up for approximately four hours after work every weeknight if she gets out at 5.00pm.

That said, from a systemic perspective, our economic system could definitely use some reform.
Anonymous
Post 11/23/2023 10:06     Subject: Gen Z crying about having to work 9-5
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
It’s almost a relief that the Biden economic depression is looming. Mother Nature and reality are awesome at educating evolution's rejects about what’s up.


You are correct, serious recession early 2024.


I didn’t know Janet Yellen was on DCUM. Even a broken clock is right twice per day. How many times is the serious recession call going to be 6 months away…then another 6 months…then another.
Anonymous
Post 11/22/2023 15:09     Subject: Gen Z crying about having to work 9-5
Remember when they banned child labor and everyone was all "but the kids help keep our family financially solvent?" and now we look at that time as barbaric and insane?

That's how some of you sound.
Anonymous
Post 11/22/2023 15:05     Subject: Gen Z crying about having to work 9-5
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Every boomer I’ve worked with takes literally 10x as long to produce work as their Millenial/Z coworkers. I could hire one Gen Z to do the work of 3 boomers; boomers just do not have the technological experience to navigate new systems quickly, and many require a lot of handholding to master rudimentary computer skills. The sad fact is that most boomer in the workforce have no clue how they are perceived or how much their younger coworkers “work around” that ineffeciency. So when boomers complain about lazy Gen Z, it’s hard not to roll your eyes; like yes Beatrice, you work 40 hours a week and 20 of them is figuring out how to edit a PDF for docusign while your millenial boss quietly asks your Gen Z coworker to just “do it and send it me directly”.


If you are fortunate to remain healthy and live long enough, then some day that will be you. I know you swear it won't, but I'm confident those boomers thought the same.

I certainly will! But unlike boomers, I won’t be deluded enough to think my “40 hour week” doesn’t actually represent half the productivity of my younger cohort who make 3/4 of my salary. The fact that boomers don’t recognize the audacity of their “hard work” claims when everyone around them is forced to manage their technical incompetencies is a symptom of the hopelessness of that entire generation. But yes, we will continue to listen to you blather about lazy Gen Z and hopefully you can continue your “hard” work of figuring out Excel spreadsheets while we just quietly finish the job.
Anonymous
Post 11/22/2023 11:18     Subject: Gen Z crying about having to work 9-5
Anonymous wrote:Every boomer I’ve worked with takes literally 10x as long to produce work as their Millenial/Z coworkers. I could hire one Gen Z to do the work of 3 boomers; boomers just do not have the technological experience to navigate new systems quickly, and many require a lot of handholding to master rudimentary computer skills. The sad fact is that most boomer in the workforce have no clue how they are perceived or how much their younger coworkers “work around” that ineffeciency. So when boomers complain about lazy Gen Z, it’s hard not to roll your eyes; like yes Beatrice, you work 40 hours a week and 20 of them is figuring out how to edit a PDF for docusign while your millenial boss quietly asks your Gen Z coworker to just “do it and send it me directly”.


The youngest Boomers are 60 so you won’t have to deal with them much longer. Just keep hiring -and hiring- and hiring as your younger folks keep jumping ship to the next better offer.
Anonymous
Post 11/22/2023 09:51     Subject: Gen Z crying about having to work 9-5
Anonymous wrote:Every boomer I’ve worked with takes literally 10x as long to produce work as their Millenial/Z coworkers. I could hire one Gen Z to do the work of 3 boomers; boomers just do not have the technological experience to navigate new systems quickly, and many require a lot of handholding to master rudimentary computer skills. The sad fact is that most boomer in the workforce have no clue how they are perceived or how much their younger coworkers “work around” that ineffeciency. So when boomers complain about lazy Gen Z, it’s hard not to roll your eyes; like yes Beatrice, you work 40 hours a week and 20 of them is figuring out how to edit a PDF for docusign while your millenial boss quietly asks your Gen Z coworker to just “do it and send it me directly”.


If you are fortunate to remain healthy and live long enough, then some day that will be you. I know you swear it won't, but I'm confident those boomers thought the same.
Anonymous
Post 11/21/2023 16:01     Subject: Gen Z crying about having to work 9-5
Every boomer I’ve worked with takes literally 10x as long to produce work as their Millenial/Z coworkers. I could hire one Gen Z to do the work of 3 boomers; boomers just do not have the technological experience to navigate new systems quickly, and many require a lot of handholding to master rudimentary computer skills. The sad fact is that most boomer in the workforce have no clue how they are perceived or how much their younger coworkers “work around” that ineffeciency. So when boomers complain about lazy Gen Z, it’s hard not to roll your eyes; like yes Beatrice, you work 40 hours a week and 20 of them is figuring out how to edit a PDF for docusign while your millenial boss quietly asks your Gen Z coworker to just “do it and send it me directly”.
Anonymous
Post 11/19/2023 17:18     Subject: Gen Z crying about having to work 9-5
Well, it does suck and just because we all did it for years and survived doesn't mean it didn't. Two things can be true at once. The before times, with their 9-5 and long commutes sucked. We shouldn't have to go back to that just because.