Anonymous
Post 09/27/2023 20:40     Subject: For Which Elite Colleges and Universities Would You Pay Full Price ?
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Anonymous wrote:Who in their right minds would pay full freight for UPenn?


? A lot of people. It’s a top school, I’d argue equal to or better than Yale at this point.


Equal or better than Yale?

Penn boosters out in full force, and as always, they're piping delusion.



I have no connection to either school. But I certainly regard Penn as a superior school to Yale. With Wharton, it has the preeminent undergraduate business program in the world. And Penn engineering is infinitely better than Yale engineering. I'm sure Yale is a very pleasant place to study art history, but it's not 1952 anymore. Yale has failed to adapt to a changing world. It's increasingly an anachronism.


A convenient narrative, but not true. Yale is full of kids heading into finance, consulting, law school, med school, etc. just like its peer institutions. Not as historically strong in STEM, but has poured a ton of money into those areas in recent years and the research opportunities for undergrads are tremendous. “Failed to adapt to a changing world” is silliness.
Anonymous
Post 09/27/2023 20:25     Subject: For Which Elite Colleges and Universities Would You Pay Full Price ?
Any Ivy.
Anonymous
Post 09/27/2023 20:21     Subject: For Which Elite Colleges and Universities Would You Pay Full Price ?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Who in their right minds would pay full freight for UPenn?


? A lot of people. It’s a top school, I’d argue equal to or better than Yale at this point.


Equal or better than Yale?

Penn boosters out in full force, and as always, they're piping delusion.



I have no connection to either school. But I certainly regard Penn as a superior school to Yale. With Wharton, it has the preeminent undergraduate business program in the world. And Penn engineering is infinitely better than Yale engineering. I'm sure Yale is a very pleasant place to study art history, but it's not 1952 anymore. Yale has failed to adapt to a changing world. It's increasingly an anachronism.


My DC likes Yale but I worry that its admissions reward extreme left SJWs and at some point this will tank the school. I say this as a liberal.
Anonymous
Post 09/27/2023 20:02     Subject: Re:For Which Elite Colleges and Universities Would You Pay Full Price ?
Anonymous wrote:Rankings are primarily on the basis of a school's endowment. Yale's endowment is among the three largest in the country; Penn's endowment is the sixth largest.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_colleges_and_universities_in_the_United_States_by_endowment

Yale has the second largest endowment and Penn has the sixth largest.
Anonymous
Post 09/27/2023 19:54     Subject: Re:For Which Elite Colleges and Universities Would You Pay Full Price ?
Rankings are primarily on the basis of a school's endowment. Yale's endowment is among the three largest in the country; Penn's endowment is the sixth largest.
Anonymous
Post 09/27/2023 19:36     Subject: For Which Elite Colleges and Universities Would You Pay Full Price ?
Other than Harvard, Yale, Stanford, MIT or Princeton I wouldn’t pay full price for any school other than UVA in state. For engineering, I’d encourage my kid to choose between UVA and Tech and be happy with either one.

There is no way that a Duke, Penn, Chicago, Vandy, Georgetown, Notre Dame or Rice etc is worth the extra money to anyone who truly doesn’t have money to burn.
Anonymous
Post 09/27/2023 19:25     Subject: For Which Elite Colleges and Universities Would You Pay Full Price ?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Who in their right minds would pay full freight for UPenn?


? A lot of people. It’s a top school, I’d argue equal to or better than Yale at this point.


Equal or better than Yale?

Penn boosters out in full force, and as always, they're piping delusion.



I have no connection to either school. But I certainly regard Penn as a superior school to Yale. With Wharton, it has the preeminent undergraduate business program in the world. And Penn engineering is infinitely better than Yale engineering. I'm sure Yale is a very pleasant place to study art history, but it's not 1952 anymore. Yale has failed to adapt to a changing world. It's increasingly an anachronism.


Lol.

In no universe is Penn superior to Yale.
Anonymous
Post 09/27/2023 19:22     Subject: For Which Elite Colleges and Universities Would You Pay Full Price ?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Who in their right minds would pay full freight for UPenn?


? A lot of people. It’s a top school, I’d argue equal to or better than Yale at this point.


Equal or better than Yale?

Penn boosters out in full force, and as always, they're piping delusion.



I have no connection to either school. But I certainly regard Penn as a superior school to Yale. With Wharton, it has the preeminent undergraduate business program in the world. And Penn engineering is infinitely better than Yale engineering. I'm sure Yale is a very pleasant place to study art history, but it's not 1952 anymore. Yale has failed to adapt to a changing world. It's increasingly an anachronism.


Agreed. I wouldn’t be surprised if Penn, Caltech, and Duke pass up Yale in the rankings over the next decade if technology keeps steamrolling everything.
Anonymous
Post 09/27/2023 19:20     Subject: For Which Elite Colleges and Universities Would You Pay Full Price ?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Who in their right minds would pay full freight for UPenn?


? A lot of people. It’s a top school, I’d argue equal to or better than Yale at this point.


Equal or better than Yale?

Penn boosters out in full force, and as always, they're piping delusion.



I have no connection to either school. But I certainly regard Penn as a superior school to Yale. With Wharton, it has the preeminent undergraduate business program in the world. And Penn engineering is infinitely better than Yale engineering. I'm sure Yale is a very pleasant place to study art history, but it's not 1952 anymore. Yale has failed to adapt to a changing world. It's increasingly an anachronism.
Anonymous
Post 09/27/2023 19:13     Subject: For Which Elite Colleges and Universities Would You Pay Full Price ?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Who in their right minds would pay full freight for UPenn?


? A lot of people. It’s a top school, I’d argue equal to or better than Yale at this point.


Equal or better than Yale?

Penn boosters out in full force, and as always, they're piping delusion.
Anonymous
Post 09/27/2023 19:06     Subject: For Which Elite Colleges and Universities Would You Pay Full Price ?
Anonymous wrote:Assuming that paying full price included taking out a total of $30,000 in loans over 4 years (average of $7,500 per year), for which elite colleges and universities would you pay full price ? (I specify the loan amounts to depict one who must sacrifice to attend an elite school at full sticker price.)

Assume that the student is undecided regarding major and career.

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I would do that for any school they wanted to go to.
Anonymous
Post 09/27/2023 19:00     Subject: For Which Elite Colleges and Universities Would You Pay Full Price ?
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HYPSM plus Hopkins, Cal Tech and Georgetown.


That's because we can afford any college.

As a PP said, I would never take out loans to pay for college, even the ones above.


Georgetown and Hopkins over Penn and Duke? That needs explanation, the ROI on Penn and Duke are probably a decent amount better. I’m guessing proximity to home?

Duke has always felt more southern to me than some like to admit both in terms of leadership and students. They are always looking to strengthen that old "Duke family" as President Price has said.


Huh? When I visited with my daughter it felt very northern actually. Seems filled with kids from new york
Anonymous
Post 09/27/2023 18:39     Subject: For Which Elite Colleges and Universities Would You Pay Full Price ?
Anonymous wrote:Who in their right minds would pay full freight for UPenn?


By saying this does not make you smarter.
Anonymous
Post 09/27/2023 18:38     Subject: For Which Elite Colleges and Universities Would You Pay Full Price ?
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Who in their right minds would pay full freight for UPenn?


? A lot of people. It’s a top school, I’d argue equal to or better than Yale at this point.


UPenn top school, sure. Equal to or better than Yale, definitely not.


Why definitely?
Anonymous
Post 09/27/2023 18:24     Subject: For Which Elite Colleges and Universities Would You Pay Full Price ?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Who in their right minds would pay full freight for UPenn?


? A lot of people. It’s a top school, I’d argue equal to or better than Yale at this point.


UPenn top school, sure. Equal to or better than Yale, definitely not.