Anonymous
Post 09/17/2023 22:43     Subject: 2024 US News rankings
Anonymous wrote:Are test scores still included in the ranking formula, or no? I'm guessing no...

5%, so barely
Anonymous
Post 09/17/2023 22:42     Subject: 2024 US News rankings
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Anonymous wrote:UN finally overtook UVA. It was just a matter of time. Next year UF will probably equal/pass UVA as well


UVA moved up from 25 to 24


And UNC Moved up to #22. UVA fell to #5 among the top publics.


Yea yea yea it’s basically tied with UNC so whatever.



Not quite since it’s basically tied with UF
Anonymous
Post 09/17/2023 22:42     Subject: 2024 US News rankings
Anonymous wrote:Elon #1 in undergraduate teaching. That's impressive.


Elon also #1 for First Year Experience. No connection to Elon, but that's pretty good too
Anonymous
Post 09/17/2023 22:42     Subject: Re:2024 US News rankings
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Anonymous wrote:He new rankings are a joke. Every state flagship is now a top 50. UC Davis at 28.

This, yall really believe UCDavis is peer schools with Emory, WashU, Carnegie Mellon???
Like be for real! This is horrible, only elite schools should be on the T30. Private schools don't know which students are Pell grant students it's unfair to judge them on that. They provide great financial aid to the Pell grant students they do have yet don't get rewarded for that.


Basically takes a 3.9 GPA to get into UC Davis these days. Attracts the same caliber as Emory, WashU and CMU so yes, it isn’t ridiculous to think it is a peer school. Your info about Davis is likely outdated.

A 3.9 weighted is not the same as a 3.9 unweighted. Also those 3 schools sat scores are 1500+.


The weighted admission stats for UC Davis are well above a 4.0 so not sure what you are getting at. And look at how many students actually submitted test score to these schools. Davis obviously doesn’t consider them. Around 40%+ of students enrolled did not.

you incredibly obtuse. 70% of Emory students submitted test scores don't know about the other schools. However, top banks, consulting firms, and even tech companies will never recruit from UC Davis, I hope you know that. So please enjoy the delusions.
Anonymous
Post 09/17/2023 22:41     Subject: Re:2024 US News rankings
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Anonymous wrote:Notre Dame remains in top 20 despite the constant chatter that they will be knocked down lol.



It will as the swell to get of legacy admissions continues.


LOL just like every other elite top 20. It's not going anywhere below where it is. It hasn't for decades. I know that triggers you lol.

It literally dropped 2 spots to 20, it can easily drop another next year.


So what? It is still ranked a top school. Two slots either direction is typical for many schools in the top 20. Nice try though!
Anonymous
Post 09/17/2023 22:40     Subject: 2024 US News rankings
Elon #1 in undergraduate teaching. That's impressive.
Anonymous
Post 09/17/2023 22:40     Subject: Re:2024 US News rankings
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Anonymous wrote:Notre Dame remains in top 20 despite the constant chatter that they will be knocked down lol.



It will as the swell to get of legacy admissions continues.


LOL just like every other elite top 20. It's not going anywhere below where it is. It hasn't for decades. I know that triggers you lol.



Uh no. Many of them like UVA have already dropped it. And while we are on the topic of Notre Dame let’s discuss it’s abysmal 3.3% black student population (and don’t try comparing it to the UV schools -we stomped you on that last time)


Like I said, despite its lackluster diversity, it still remains a top 20 school. They must be doing something right! And it has been in top 20 since the 90s, but nice try.
Anonymous
Post 09/17/2023 22:36     Subject: 2024 US News rankings
Princeton and Williams remain the USNWR darlings.
Don't they know they'd get more headlines and interest if they mixed up those top spots, especially since everyone knows they are not undoubtedly the top schools (look at almost any other ranking)?
Anonymous
Post 09/17/2023 22:34     Subject: Re:2024 US News rankings
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Anonymous wrote:He new rankings are a joke. Every state flagship is now a top 50. UC Davis at 28.

This, yall really believe UCDavis is peer schools with Emory, WashU, Carnegie Mellon???
Like be for real! This is horrible, only elite schools should be on the T30. Private schools don't know which students are Pell grant students it's unfair to judge them on that. They provide great financial aid to the Pell grant students they do have yet don't get rewarded for that.


Basically takes a 3.9 GPA to get into UC Davis these days. Attracts the same caliber as Emory, WashU and CMU so yes, it isn’t ridiculous to think it is a peer school. Your info about Davis is likely outdated.

A 3.9 weighted is not the same as a 3.9 unweighted. Also those 3 schools sat scores are 1500+.


The weighted admission stats for UC Davis are well above a 4.0 so not sure what you are getting at. And look at how many students actually submitted test score to these schools. Davis obviously doesn’t consider them. Around 40%+ of students enrolled did not.
Anonymous
Post 09/17/2023 22:31     Subject: 2024 US News rankings
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Anonymous wrote:UN finally overtook UVA. It was just a matter of time. Next year UF will probably equal/pass UVA as well


UVA moved up from 25 to 24


And UNC Moved up to #22. UVA fell to #5 among the top publics.


Yea yea yea it’s basically tied with UNC so whatever.
Anonymous
Post 09/17/2023 22:31     Subject: 2024 US News rankings
Anonymous wrote:The more the rankings weight social mobility over things like class size (which was eliminated!) and entering student stats (measure of the strength of the peer group), the less relevant they are as a way to assess the quality of education or experience a student will have, which is what people look to these rankings for. I find the new methodology to be disappointing.


class size was way off base - that had to go. if they had accurate info, maybe
Anonymous
Post 09/17/2023 22:29     Subject: 2024 US News rankings
Are test scores still included in the ranking formula, or no? I'm guessing no...
Anonymous
Post 09/17/2023 22:29     Subject: 2024 US News rankings
Anonymous wrote:"These rankings don't matter" crowd sounds similar to the Test optional crowd that secretly pays $500/hr to test prep their kids to move from 1200 to 1250 .

People, the only rankings that matter is US News and this is it for 2024!


Oh give it a break! No one pays $500 an hour. This is liberal screed. You lose all credibility when you keep saying this. And in case you didn’t notice it, no one here comments on your posts about tutoring inequality because no one believes it or cares. Take it to Reddit or some Marxist publication. Btw kids can self tutor very ably and have no need of expensive tutors
Anonymous
Post 09/17/2023 22:28     Subject: 2024 US News rankings
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Anonymous wrote:UN finally overtook UVA. It was just a matter of time. Next year UF will probably equal/pass UVA as well


UVA moved up from 25 to 24


And UNC Moved up to #22. UVA fell to #5 among the top publics.
Anonymous
Post 09/17/2023 22:28     Subject: 2024 US News rankings
Anonymous wrote:The more the rankings weight social mobility over things like class size (which was eliminated!) and entering student stats (measure of the strength of the peer group), the less relevant they are as a way to assess the quality of education or experience a student will have, which is what people look to these rankings for. I find the new methodology to be disappointing.

+1. US News is slowly making its premier ranking a poor product and thus less and less relevant to college list decision-making, which was tangential to begin with. Now it just looks dumb.