Anonymous
Post 09/07/2023 11:54     Subject: Re:Johns Hopkins is a Leader in Undergrad Diversity
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I wonder what percentage of the URM kids also are white. There's a lot of UMC kids who have a black and white parent or white looking Grandma from Argentina and look very white, but check the Hispanic box.


Argentina is not 'latin or hispanic'.


Argentinans lean into the Hispanic crap when it comes to stuff like college admissions but are like the third reich the rest of the time


Argentinians are legit Hispanic by every definition I've seen.

For example, census dot gov:

"OMB defines "Hispanic or Latino" as a person of Cuban, Mexican, Puerto Rican, South or Central American, or other Spanish culture or origin regardless of race."

Argentines would be dumb not to play that readily available card.

But, as DCUM thinks some Hispanics are "cheating", what we really need is for DCUM to put on its expert Nazi racial scientist hat and precisely define which types of Hispanics "deserve" any social or college admissions advantages. How brown do you have to be to avoid the dreaded "white Hispanic" label? Should admissions committees use a special chart?

Anonymous
Post 09/07/2023 11:35     Subject: Re:Johns Hopkins is a Leader in Undergrad Diversity
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Only 48% submit scores. This was a game changer in admissions.


Yeah that’s crazy

Schools like JHU and CMU and gtown will never have hypsm prestige or Dartmouth quality of life so need to lean into test scores to maintain their brand because thats what they trade on.

They don’t have the cache or QoL to follow the others



Georgetown requires scores (all taken), doesn't superscore, likes to see AP scores, is not on the Common App., etc. It is one of the few merit-based universities left.

They don't falsely drive up the number of Applicants to make their selectivity rate appear greater than it is like many USNWR darlings. They already self-select qualified applicants because those with low test scores do not bother applying.


Yeah I didn’t mean that gtown had to change policy but for JHU to Match it

Anonymous
Post 09/07/2023 11:34     Subject: Johns Hopkins is a Leader in Undergrad Diversity
Anonymous wrote:Guess white people looking for a spouse no longer want to go.



😂 😂 😂

Liberal white people are the most hypocritical about these things - it’s so hard for them to admit it but their actions speak volumes
Anonymous
Post 09/07/2023 11:33     Subject: Re:Johns Hopkins is a Leader in Undergrad Diversity
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Only 48% submit scores. This was a game changer in admissions.


Yeah that’s crazy

Schools like JHU and CMU and gtown will never have hypsm prestige or Dartmouth quality of life so need to lean into test scores to maintain their brand because thats what they trade on.

They don’t have the cache or QoL to follow the others



Georgetown requires scores (all taken), doesn't superscore, likes to see AP scores, is not on the Common App., etc. It is one of the few merit-based universities left.

They don't falsely drive up the number of Applicants to make their selectivity rate appear greater than it is like many USNWR darlings. They already self-select qualified applicants because those with low test scores do not bother applying.
Anonymous
Post 09/07/2023 11:30     Subject: Re:Johns Hopkins is a Leader in Undergrad Diversity
Anonymous wrote:Only 48% submit scores. This was a game changer in admissions.


Yeah that’s crazy

Schools like JHU and CMU and gtown will never have hypsm prestige or Dartmouth quality of life so need to lean into test scores to maintain their brand because thats what they trade on.

They don’t have the cache or QoL to follow the others

Anonymous
Post 09/07/2023 11:24     Subject: Re:Johns Hopkins is a Leader in Undergrad Diversity
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:In 2013, 9 percent of incoming freshmen at Hopkins had “legacy” connections, the university said, and 18 percent identified as Black, Latino, American Indian, Native Alaskan or Native Hawaiian. By last fall the legacy share had plummeted to less than 2 percent while

the percentage from the underrepresented racial and ethnic groups had soared to 34 percent. The White share of freshmen, meanwhile, sank to 17 percent in 2022. Federal data show it had been 46 percent a decade earlier.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2023/08/29/john-hopkins-legacy-racial-diversity/

For those that have not read the article^, not sure it was linked prior.


Their data isn't accurate

They calculated it by subtracting international and multiracial students from the sum. Here is the correct calculation for JHU: https://oir.jhu.edu/wp-content/uploads/CDS_2021-2022.pdf

1171 total qualifying students, 441 URMs = 38% URM
Percent white = 24%

Caltech:
44% URM
20% White

Amherst:
36.5% URM
44% White



Anonymous
Post 09/07/2023 11:23     Subject: Johns Hopkins is a Leader in Undergrad Diversity
Guess white people looking for a spouse no longer want to go.

Anonymous
Post 09/07/2023 11:19     Subject: Re:Johns Hopkins is a Leader in Undergrad Diversity
Anonymous wrote:Only 48% submit scores. This was a game changer in admissions.


Hopkins latest data set shows 60 percent submitted scores.
Anonymous
Post 09/07/2023 11:14     Subject: Re:Johns Hopkins is a Leader in Undergrad Diversity
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:In 2013, 9 percent of incoming freshmen at Hopkins had “legacy” connections, the university said, and 18 percent identified as Black, Latino, American Indian, Native Alaskan or Native Hawaiian. By last fall the legacy share had plummeted to less than 2 percent while the percentage from the underrepresented racial and ethnic groups had soared to 34 percent. The White share of freshmen, meanwhile, sank to 17 percent in 2022. Federal data show it had been 46 percent a decade earlier.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2023/08/29/john-hopkins-legacy-racial-diversity/

For those that have not read the article^, not sure it was linked prior.


I think the article is slightly off, 21 percent Caucasian for class of 2026 per Hopkins website. The Asian enrollment is 26 percent. International, which is likely mostly a combination of those two groups, is 14 percent.


That is still unproportionable/very low/not representative of US population statistics.


So?

Penn was 40% Jewish in the 90s and 2000s



Scores were required.
Anonymous
Post 09/07/2023 11:14     Subject: Re:Johns Hopkins is a Leader in Undergrad Diversity
Only 48% submit scores. This was a game changer in admissions.
Anonymous
Post 09/07/2023 11:02     Subject: Re:Johns Hopkins is a Leader in Undergrad Diversity
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:In 2013, 9 percent of incoming freshmen at Hopkins had “legacy” connections, the university said, and 18 percent identified as Black, Latino, American Indian, Native Alaskan or Native Hawaiian. By last fall the legacy share had plummeted to less than 2 percent while the percentage from the underrepresented racial and ethnic groups had soared to 34 percent. The White share of freshmen, meanwhile, sank to 17 percent in 2022. Federal data show it had been 46 percent a decade earlier.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2023/08/29/john-hopkins-legacy-racial-diversity/

For those that have not read the article^, not sure it was linked prior.


I think the article is slightly off, 21 percent Caucasian for class of 2026 per Hopkins website. The Asian enrollment is 26 percent. International, which is likely mostly a combination of those two groups, is 14 percent.


That is still unproportionable/very low/not representative of US population statistics.


So?

Penn was 40% Jewish in the 90s and 2000s

Anonymous
Post 09/07/2023 11:01     Subject: Re:Johns Hopkins is a Leader in Undergrad Diversity
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I wonder what percentage of the URM kids also are white. There's a lot of UMC kids who have a black and white parent or white looking Grandma from Argentina and look very white, but check the Hispanic box.


Argentina is not 'latin or hispanic'.


Argentinans lean into the Hispanic crap when it comes to stuff like college admissions but are like the third reich the rest of the time
Anonymous
Post 09/07/2023 11:00     Subject: Johns Hopkins is a Leader in Undergrad Diversity
Great. Another thread devolving into grievance and paranoia.
Anonymous
Post 09/07/2023 11:00     Subject: Re:Johns Hopkins is a Leader in Undergrad Diversity
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:In 2013, 9 percent of incoming freshmen at Hopkins had “legacy” connections, the university said, and 18 percent identified as Black, Latino, American Indian, Native Alaskan or Native Hawaiian. By last fall the legacy share had plummeted to less than 2 percent while the percentage from the underrepresented racial and ethnic groups had soared to 34 percent. The White share of freshmen, meanwhile, sank to 17 percent in 2022. Federal data show it had been 46 percent a decade earlier.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2023/08/29/john-hopkins-legacy-racial-diversity/

For those that have not read the article^, not sure it was linked prior.


I think the article is slightly off, 21 percent Caucasian for class of 2026 per Hopkins website. The Asian enrollment is 26 percent. International, which is likely mostly a combination of those two groups, is 14 percent.


Western euros don’t apply to JHU

International is vast majority Asian and non-western euro

Anonymous
Post 09/07/2023 10:59     Subject: Re:Johns Hopkins is a Leader in Undergrad Diversity
Anonymous wrote:I wonder what percentage of the URM kids also are white. There's a lot of UMC kids who have a black and white parent or white looking Grandma from Argentina and look very white, but check the Hispanic box.


Argentina is not 'latin or hispanic'.