Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's almost as if they didn't do this they are doing a really bad job of managing taxpayer resources. Because leaving 400+ seats empty when there aren't any signs they're filling back up again anytime soon would be bad management.

That’s really the question, isn’t it? APS says there are fewer births in VA so there will be fewer students. Common sense says Boomers are cashing out of APS in droves, properties are being redeveloped, and people are moving in with 2-3 kids because of the schools. FCCPS is a much smaller district and got caught completely unawares of enrollment growth this year. If you plan for 95%-100% capacity you can’t accommodate anything that isn’t dictated by birth data from 5 years ago limited to people who lived in APS at the time.

Or maybe we are having babies at Sibley instead of VHC or whatever they call that third rate hospital

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why are posters so insistent that no Nottingham kids will end up at Jamestown?

I was thinking same and just went to look at boundary map. It's easy to visualize how some Nottingham kids could end up at Jamestown.

More likely a bunch of Discovery kids end up at Jamestown and Taylor. I think Tuckahoe is left pretty intact (probably picks up the 2 straggling PUs currently bused to Nottingham) and Discovery picks up most of the Notties. They'll be reunited with the former Notties.

APS says in pre-CIP that Nottingham will go to Tuckahoe and Discovery, except for pre-K which ends up at Taylor. More than just 2 planning units end up at Tuckahoe based on the numbers they state, and then to prevent that school from being even more overcrowded, existing Tuckahoe kids end up elsewhere. And when Nottingham kids end up at Discovery, Discovery end up at Jamestown and Taylor. The whole point is everyone gets scrambled when Nottingham closes.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's almost as if they didn't do this they are doing a really bad job of managing taxpayer resources. Because leaving 400+ seats empty when there aren't any signs they're filling back up again anytime soon would be bad management.

That’s really the question, isn’t it? APS says there are fewer births in VA so there will be fewer students. Common sense says Boomers are cashing out of APS in droves, properties are being redeveloped, and people are moving in with 2-3 kids because of the schools. FCCPS is a much smaller district and got caught completely unawares of enrollment growth this year. If you plan for 95%-100% capacity you can’t accommodate anything that isn’t dictated by birth data from 5 years ago limited to people who lived in APS at the time.

LOL. No one is moving here because of the schools.

Reality check. A lot of people still leave ACPS to come here prior to K.

And DCPS. A ton leave DCPS after free pre-K.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's almost as if they didn't do this they are doing a really bad job of managing taxpayer resources. Because leaving 400+ seats empty when there aren't any signs they're filling back up again anytime soon would be bad management.

That’s really the question, isn’t it? APS says there are fewer births in VA so there will be fewer students. Common sense says Boomers are cashing out of APS in droves, properties are being redeveloped, and people are moving in with 2-3 kids because of the schools. FCCPS is a much smaller district and got caught completely unawares of enrollment growth this year. If you plan for 95%-100% capacity you can’t accommodate anything that isn’t dictated by birth data from 5 years ago limited to people who lived in APS at the time.

LOL. No one is moving here because of the schools.

Reality check. A lot of people still leave ACPS to come here prior to K.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's almost as if they didn't do this they are doing a really bad job of managing taxpayer resources. Because leaving 400+ seats empty when there aren't any signs they're filling back up again anytime soon would be bad management.

That’s really the question, isn’t it? APS says there are fewer births in VA so there will be fewer students. Common sense says Boomers are cashing out of APS in droves, properties are being redeveloped, and people are moving in with 2-3 kids because of the schools. FCCPS is a much smaller district and got caught completely unawares of enrollment growth this year. If you plan for 95%-100% capacity you can’t accommodate anything that isn’t dictated by birth data from 5 years ago limited to people who lived in APS at the time.

LOL. No one is moving here because of the schools.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why are posters so insistent that no Nottingham kids will end up at Jamestown?

I was thinking same and just went to look at boundary map. It's easy to visualize how some Nottingham kids could end up at Jamestown.

More likely a bunch of Discovery kids end up at Jamestown and Taylor. I think Tuckahoe is left pretty intact (probably picks up the 2 straggling PUs currently bused to Nottingham) and Discovery picks up most of the Notties. They'll be reunited with the former Notties.

Anonymous wrote:Why are posters so insistent that no Nottingham kids will end up at Jamestown?

I was thinking same and just went to look at boundary map. It's easy to visualize how some Nottingham kids could end up at Jamestown.

Why are posters so insistent that no Nottingham kids will end up at Jamestown?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's almost as if they didn't do this they are doing a really bad job of managing taxpayer resources. Because leaving 400+ seats empty when there aren't any signs they're filling back up again anytime soon would be bad management.

That’s really the question, isn’t it? APS says there are fewer births in VA so there will be fewer students. Common sense says Boomers are cashing out of APS in droves, properties are being redeveloped, and people are moving in with 2-3 kids because of the schools. FCCPS is a much smaller district and got caught completely unawares of enrollment growth this year. If you plan for 95%-100% capacity you can’t accommodate anything that isn’t dictated by birth data from 5 years ago limited to people who lived in APS at the time.

Or as the other active thread suggests, Arlington is getting wealthier and wealthier and the exodus to private school will continue (probably at a slow trickle). Your assertion that boomers are leaving in droves and people are moving in with 2-3 kids is speculation. Doesn't really seem like the basis to leave 400+ seats of schools in a single part of the County under enrolled when the space could smartly be used to save what will amount to a lot of money (no renting or building out appropriate swing space and ability to move faster and cheaper and not stage school renovation projects).

I don't think FCCPS is particularly relevant to APS.

NP - This is not really speculation, take a look at the specific redevelopment that's happening everywhere in N. Arlington. My neighborhood is full of young families with elementary and younger kids buying boomers' teardowns and pop-ups. And those kids are going to our neighborhood elementary.

Generalizations based on what you see on your street are the definition of speculation.

I live on a street filled with Boomers going absolutely nowhere.

What I see is smaller old homes that housed families now get torn down and the same number of people move into giant houses. Pretty normal cycle of life in terms of people coming and going. The houses are just getting bigger because more $.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here is the math folks. All enrollment is June 2023 including PK.

Capacity numbers pulled from this doc:
https://www.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/Capacity-Utilization-2021-to-2023-for-posting-online.pdf

Jamestown capacity: 597
enrollment: 479

Tuckahoe capacity: 545
enrollment: 454

Discovery capacity: 630
enrollment: 527

Taylor capacity: 659
enrollment: 532

Under-utilized seats: 439
Nottingham enrollment: 402

And they haven't had to touch Cardinal, which is already at 708 with 732 capacity and can't take any trailers.

Nottingham kids are not going to be going to Jamestown. So to make room at neighboring schools for existing Nottingham students, kids will be rezoned from Discovery and Tuckahoe, which seems to be the point of this thread.

Not sure what smoking gun you’re trying to prove?

People had gone on in the thread, in an attempt to stir up hysteria, to say all the rest of these schools would become overcrowded. Which likely isn't true. That's the point.

Oh also, pointing out how APS "doesn't care" about alignment and it makes no sense to move the Tuckahoe kids to Williamsburg because a bunch of them will go to Cardinal in 2026.

Likely also fake news.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's almost as if they didn't do this they are doing a really bad job of managing taxpayer resources. Because leaving 400+ seats empty when there aren't any signs they're filling back up again anytime soon would be bad management.

That’s really the question, isn’t it? APS says there are fewer births in VA so there will be fewer students. Common sense says Boomers are cashing out of APS in droves, properties are being redeveloped, and people are moving in with 2-3 kids because of the schools. FCCPS is a much smaller district and got caught completely unawares of enrollment growth this year. If you plan for 95%-100% capacity you can’t accommodate anything that isn’t dictated by birth data from 5 years ago limited to people who lived in APS at the time.

Or as the other active thread suggests, Arlington is getting wealthier and wealthier and the exodus to private school will continue (probably at a slow trickle). Your assertion that boomers are leaving in droves and people are moving in with 2-3 kids is speculation. Doesn't really seem like the basis to leave 400+ seats of schools in a single part of the County under enrolled when the space could smartly be used to save what will amount to a lot of money (no renting or building out appropriate swing space and ability to move faster and cheaper and not stage school renovation projects).

I don't think FCCPS is particularly relevant to APS.

NP - This is not really speculation, take a look at the specific redevelopment that's happening everywhere in N. Arlington. My neighborhood is full of young families with elementary and younger kids buying boomers' teardowns and pop-ups. And those kids are going to our neighborhood elementary.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here is the math folks. All enrollment is June 2023 including PK.

Capacity numbers pulled from this doc:
https://www.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/Capacity-Utilization-2021-to-2023-for-posting-online.pdf

Jamestown capacity: 597
enrollment: 479

Tuckahoe capacity: 545
enrollment: 454

Discovery capacity: 630
enrollment: 527

Taylor capacity: 659
enrollment: 532

Under-utilized seats: 439
Nottingham enrollment: 402

And they haven't had to touch Cardinal, which is already at 708 with 732 capacity and can't take any trailers.

Nottingham kids are not going to be going to Jamestown. So to make room at neighboring schools for existing Nottingham students, kids will be rezoned from Discovery and Tuckahoe, which seems to be the point of this thread.

Not sure what smoking gun you’re trying to prove?

People had gone on in the thread, in an attempt to stir up hysteria, to say all the rest of these schools would become overcrowded. Which likely isn't true. That's the point.

Anonymous wrote:Here is the math folks. All enrollment is June 2023 including PK.

Capacity numbers pulled from this doc:
https://www.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/Capacity-Utilization-2021-to-2023-for-posting-online.pdf

Jamestown capacity: 597
enrollment: 479

Tuckahoe capacity: 545
enrollment: 454

Discovery capacity: 630
enrollment: 527

Taylor capacity: 659
enrollment: 532

Under-utilized seats: 439
Nottingham enrollment: 402

And they haven't had to touch Cardinal, which is already at 708 with 732 capacity and can't take any trailers.

Nottingham kids are not going to be going to Jamestown. So to make room at neighboring schools for existing Nottingham students, kids will be rezoned from Discovery and Tuckahoe, which seems to be the point of this thread.

Not sure what smoking gun you’re trying to prove?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's almost as if they didn't do this they are doing a really bad job of managing taxpayer resources. Because leaving 400+ seats empty when there aren't any signs they're filling back up again anytime soon would be bad management.

That’s really the question, isn’t it? APS says there are fewer births in VA so there will be fewer students. Common sense says Boomers are cashing out of APS in droves, properties are being redeveloped, and people are moving in with 2-3 kids because of the schools. FCCPS is a much smaller district and got caught completely unawares of enrollment growth this year. If you plan for 95%-100% capacity you can’t accommodate anything that isn’t dictated by birth data from 5 years ago limited to people who lived in APS at the time.

Or as the other active thread suggests, Arlington is getting wealthier and wealthier and the exodus to private school will continue (probably at a slow trickle). Your assertion that boomers are leaving in droves and people are moving in with 2-3 kids is speculation. Doesn't really seem like the basis to leave 400+ seats of schools in a single part of the County under enrolled when the space could smartly be used to save what will amount to a lot of money (no renting or building out appropriate swing space and ability to move faster and cheaper and not stage school renovation projects).

I don't think FCCPS is particularly relevant to APS.

Anonymous wrote:It's almost as if they didn't do this they are doing a really bad job of managing taxpayer resources. Because leaving 400+ seats empty when there aren't any signs they're filling back up again anytime soon would be bad management.

That’s really the question, isn’t it? APS says there are fewer births in VA so there will be fewer students. Common sense says Boomers are cashing out of APS in droves, properties are being redeveloped, and people are moving in with 2-3 kids because of the schools. FCCPS is a much smaller district and got caught completely unawares of enrollment growth this year. If you plan for 95%-100% capacity you can’t accommodate anything that isn’t dictated by birth data from 5 years ago limited to people who lived in APS at the time.