Anonymous
Post 08/17/2023 08:08     Subject: Reagan Airport - "Refuse to Move" Citation

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You all are ridiculous. There is clearly a scenario where an older person can navigate an airport on her own, but the grandkid runs in to meet her, help with her bag, and show her where the driver is waiting. That seems signiciantly easier than parking and either have everyone walk back to the parking lot or having them stand and wait for the driver to go back to the parking lot and circle back to pick them up. Yes the OP could have circled, but if there was no back up of cars it seems reasonable to just wait for them.


Reasonable until the officer comes by and tells you to move your vehicle. At that point, you have been there too long and are violating the rules. If you continue to leave your car there, you get the ticket and have to pay it.


This. Have fun paying OP!
Anonymous
Post 08/17/2023 00:44     Subject: Reagan Airport - "Refuse to Move" Citation

Anonymous wrote:You all are ridiculous. There is clearly a scenario where an older person can navigate an airport on her own, but the grandkid runs in to meet her, help with her bag, and show her where the driver is waiting. That seems signiciantly easier than parking and either have everyone walk back to the parking lot or having them stand and wait for the driver to go back to the parking lot and circle back to pick them up. Yes the OP could have circled, but if there was no back up of cars it seems reasonable to just wait for them.


Sure. Until the armed police officer orders you repeatedly to move. Then it’s not reasonable to wait there. Circle around, it’s not that far FFS.
Anonymous
Post 08/17/2023 00:10     Subject: Reagan Airport - "Refuse to Move" Citation

Anonymous wrote:You all are ridiculous. There is clearly a scenario where an older person can navigate an airport on her own, but the grandkid runs in to meet her, help with her bag, and show her where the driver is waiting. That seems signiciantly easier than parking and either have everyone walk back to the parking lot or having them stand and wait for the driver to go back to the parking lot and circle back to pick them up. Yes the OP could have circled, but if there was no back up of cars it seems reasonable to just wait for them.


Reasonable until the officer comes by and tells you to move your vehicle. At that point, you have been there too long and are violating the rules. If you continue to leave your car there, you get the ticket and have to pay it.
Anonymous
Post 08/17/2023 00:04     Subject: Reagan Airport - "Refuse to Move" Citation

Anonymous wrote:You all are ridiculous. There is clearly a scenario where an older person can navigate an airport on her own, but the grandkid runs in to meet her, help with her bag, and show her where the driver is waiting. That seems signiciantly easier than parking and either have everyone walk back to the parking lot or having them stand and wait for the driver to go back to the parking lot and circle back to pick them up. Yes the OP could have circled, but if there was no back up of cars it seems reasonable to just wait for them.


Then pay the fine. That’s the price of the convenience.
Anonymous
Post 08/17/2023 00:03     Subject: Reagan Airport - "Refuse to Move" Citation

Anonymous wrote:Meanwhile, last week at Dulles, my DD dropped me off. I immediately got out of the passenger seat and she popped the trunk and I got fussed at while pulling my bag out. Maximum 90 seconds. No hugs, last minute instructions.

I got home and at the arrivals pickup was three deep with cars parked there the entire 20 minutes it took DD to get from the cell phone lot to arrivals pickup— because three lanes of traffic were parked. Some with their cars turned off. One person in front of me was next to the curb and appeared to be napping. It was a zoo, and there was zero traffic enforcement. I saw no police in 20 minutes.

So, apparently at Dulles, departures is a car bomb scene waiting to happen, while it could never happen at arrivals.

Don’t be an A-hole and hang out at arrivals OP. Circle or wait in the cell phone lot. And YES, pay the ticket. It’s a post 9/11 security related offense at an airport in DC near the Pentagon. It may take a while, but having it outstanding will catch up with you. Don’t have it be something like getting flagged at security when you fly out of Dulles.


Pro tip: when the arrivals level at Dulles is that packed, the departures level is almost always empty. Last couple pickups I have done at Dulles it has been like that, and I had the arriving person go upstairs and picked them up on the departures level with zero delay or hassle. Heavily recommend
Anonymous
Post 08/16/2023 23:30     Subject: Re:Reagan Airport - "Refuse to Move" Citation

Anonymous wrote:And just for fun... THIS is there website!!! zing!

https://www.flyreagan.com/


THEIR, not there. But of course a Reagan fan wouldn’t know the difference. Psst—ketchup isn’t a vegetable.
Anonymous
Post 08/16/2023 23:28     Subject: Reagan Airport - "Refuse to Move" Citation

Meanwhile, last week at Dulles, my DD dropped me off. I immediately got out of the passenger seat and she popped the trunk and I got fussed at while pulling my bag out. Maximum 90 seconds. No hugs, last minute instructions.

I got home and at the arrivals pickup was three deep with cars parked there the entire 20 minutes it took DD to get from the cell phone lot to arrivals pickup— because three lanes of traffic were parked. Some with their cars turned off. One person in front of me was next to the curb and appeared to be napping. It was a zoo, and there was zero traffic enforcement. I saw no police in 20 minutes.

So, apparently at Dulles, departures is a car bomb scene waiting to happen, while it could never happen at arrivals.

Don’t be an A-hole and hang out at arrivals OP. Circle or wait in the cell phone lot. And YES, pay the ticket. It’s a post 9/11 security related offense at an airport in DC near the Pentagon. It may take a while, but having it outstanding will catch up with you. Don’t have it be something like getting flagged at security when you fly out of Dulles.
Anonymous
Post 08/16/2023 23:17     Subject: Reagan Airport - "Refuse to Move" Citation

You all are ridiculous. There is clearly a scenario where an older person can navigate an airport on her own, but the grandkid runs in to meet her, help with her bag, and show her where the driver is waiting. That seems signiciantly easier than parking and either have everyone walk back to the parking lot or having them stand and wait for the driver to go back to the parking lot and circle back to pick them up. Yes the OP could have circled, but if there was no back up of cars it seems reasonable to just wait for them.
Anonymous
Post 08/16/2023 22:22     Subject: Reagan Airport - "Refuse to Move" Citation

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Who doesnt go in to meet their elderly mother when she flies in?


Why do you need to go in when there's a curb right in front where you can park for free, let your kid out to run in, find Grandma, give her a hug, then slowly and carefully walk her to the curb where you're waiting for her with the car running? If it takes 15 minutes that's ok because Grandma is precious cargo. Everyone else can wait.


I am really confused by this grandma who seems to have made it from drop off to the gate and then from the gate to baggage claim where, suddenly, she has lost all ability to navigate and needs to led around by children.



She's either such a fast walker that the whole thing just took a few minutes, as OP says, which would suggest a nimbleness and fitness that doesn't require the support of a child. Or she needed lots of additional care, hand holding, and assistance which would make a 3 minute pick up impossible and a short term parking, meeting in baggage claim would have been the better choice.
Anonymous
Post 08/16/2023 22:17     Subject: Reagan Airport - "Refuse to Move" Citation

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Who doesnt go in to meet their elderly mother when she flies in?


Why do you need to go in when there's a curb right in front where you can park for free, let your kid out to run in, find Grandma, give her a hug, then slowly and carefully walk her to the curb where you're waiting for her with the car running? If it takes 15 minutes that's ok because Grandma is precious cargo. Everyone else can wait.


I am really confused by this grandma who seems to have made it from drop off to the gate and then from the gate to baggage claim where, suddenly, she has lost all ability to navigate and needs to led around by children.

Anonymous
Post 08/16/2023 22:15     Subject: Reagan Airport - "Refuse to Move" Citation

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Who doesnt go in to meet their elderly mother when she flies in?


Why do you need to go in when there's a curb right in front where you can park for free, let your kid out to run in, find Grandma, give her a hug, then slowly and carefully walk her to the curb where you're waiting for her with the car running? If it takes 15 minutes that's ok because Grandma is precious cargo. Everyone else can wait.


And mom can circle the airport for 15 min until they reach the curb.
Anonymous
Post 08/16/2023 22:13     Subject: Reagan Airport - "Refuse to Move" Citation

Anonymous wrote:Who doesnt go in to meet their elderly mother when she flies in?


Why do you need to go in when there's a curb right in front where you can park for free, let your kid out to run in, find Grandma, give her a hug, then slowly and carefully walk her to the curb where you're waiting for her with the car running? If it takes 15 minutes that's ok because Grandma is precious cargo. Everyone else can wait.
Anonymous
Post 08/16/2023 22:00     Subject: Reagan Airport - "Refuse to Move" Citation

Who doesnt go in to meet their elderly mother when she flies in?
Anonymous
Post 08/16/2023 21:35     Subject: Reagan Airport - "Refuse to Move" Citation

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Sorry, OP. I'm calling BS. Unless the officer literally walked over to you as you pulled up, there's no way you were there for three minutes - that's not even enough time for her to notice you and walk over, let alone have a conversation long enough for you to refuse to move.

You pulled up and sent your kids inside to find their grandmother, which probably took a fair amount of time. And then grandmom, understandably, took a whole to walk out.

The curbside pickup is intended for people who are already there waiting. Not for those that have to be found inside first. You could have dropped off your kids and had them walk grandma out while you did another look of the airport. They could have found a bench to wait on if it took you longer than it took them.

In addition to being a security hazard, cars just sitting there and waiting around for passengers who are still inside the terminal really screw up the flow of traffic for the rest of us.


This. You should have parked and gone in to get her.


And then made the elderly woman walk all the way to the parking garage?


Or use a wheelchair, or help her to a bench and then go get the car and bring it to her.


Or bring another adult who can help with baggage while you circle.
Anonymous
Post 08/16/2023 21:35     Subject: Reagan Airport - "Refuse to Move" Citation

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Sorry, OP. I'm calling BS. Unless the officer literally walked over to you as you pulled up, there's no way you were there for three minutes - that's not even enough time for her to notice you and walk over, let alone have a conversation long enough for you to refuse to move.

You pulled up and sent your kids inside to find their grandmother, which probably took a fair amount of time. And then grandmom, understandably, took a whole to walk out.

The curbside pickup is intended for people who are already there waiting. Not for those that have to be found inside first. You could have dropped off your kids and had them walk grandma out while you did another look of the airport. They could have found a bench to wait on if it took you longer than it took them.

In addition to being a security hazard, cars just sitting there and waiting around for passengers who are still inside the terminal really screw up the flow of traffic for the rest of us.


This. You should have parked and gone in to get her.


And then made the elderly woman walk all the way to the parking garage?


Can you really not think of any alternatives?