Anonymous
Post 03/24/2024 20:55     Subject: Re:New Commanders Stadium at Poplar Point (Ward 8)?

Anonymous wrote:Poplar Pointe is a great idea! It's right off the river. It's right across from two other stadiums. It's right next to the 295 freeway as well as South Capitol Street, which also has access to 395 and 695, which also means that traffic can come in from two different ways vs. the one way at RFK. It's an area that's already used to nightlife and sports. It's a better view from the freeway, and will go good with the new South Capitol Street Bridge. They can even have boat access to the stadium since it's right off the river. It also sits right in between two metro train stations vs. the one station at RFK. It would fit nice with all the high rise apartments vs. the row houses at RFK. Not to mention that the people around RFK are no longer used to sports traffic and they don't want the new stadium anyway. Poplar Pointe already has 2 other stadiums across the river. Poplar Pointe itself is not residential aside from that one apartment building that's being built up the street from it. Poplar Pointe is literally a wide open space that's just sitting there. A big dome stadium would go perfect right there. Unlike RFK, it would be much more visible from the freeway, and would fit right in with the lights since that area is already lit up. RFK is 100% residential. The new dome belongs in a spot where sport and nightlife traffic already exists.


Poplar Point was the original location for Audi Field. I don't remember why that fell apart, other than Fenty lied, but there are presumably reasons why it did.
Anonymous
Post 03/24/2024 19:27     Subject: Re:New Commanders Stadium at Poplar Point (Ward 8)?

Poplar Pointe is a great idea! It's right off the river. It's right across from two other stadiums. It's right next to the 295 freeway as well as South Capitol Street, which also has access to 395 and 695, which also means that traffic can come in from two different ways vs. the one way at RFK. It's an area that's already used to nightlife and sports. It's a better view from the freeway, and will go good with the new South Capitol Street Bridge. They can even have boat access to the stadium since it's right off the river. It also sits right in between two metro train stations vs. the one station at RFK. It would fit nice with all the high rise apartments vs. the row houses at RFK. Not to mention that the people around RFK are no longer used to sports traffic and they don't want the new stadium anyway. Poplar Pointe already has 2 other stadiums across the river. Poplar Pointe itself is not residential aside from that one apartment building that's being built up the street from it. Poplar Pointe is literally a wide open space that's just sitting there. A big dome stadium would go perfect right there. Unlike RFK, it would be much more visible from the freeway, and would fit right in with the lights since that area is already lit up. RFK is 100% residential. The new dome belongs in a spot where sport and nightlife traffic already exists.
Anonymous
Post 07/28/2023 18:06     Subject: New Commanders Stadium at Poplar Point (Ward 8)?

The fact is, the city is going to need to spend 200-300M to get the whole area into a developable state, so if the owners of the team want to build the stadium after that, great. Otherwise, the area will be turned into another Wharf/Navy Yard like Disnleyland.
Anonymous
Post 07/28/2023 15:32     Subject: New Commanders Stadium at Poplar Point (Ward 8)?

This sounds like a great option
Anonymous
Post 07/28/2023 14:35     Subject: Re:New Commanders Stadium at Poplar Point (Ward 8)?

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:RFK! RFK!

World class cities have sports venues. Why would we not want DC to become a world class city?

This will dramatically benefit NE/SE DC over the long term.

Nats park has been one of the biggest changes to the city. The area was foul before, now it is absolutely bustling. Nats park is a fantastic baseball experience -- i've been to every baseball stadium in the US.



No one gives a fck about your tourism hobby.


So you would rather have a huge opportunity go away because your broke ass hates billionaires?

Sounds like it will happen so deal with it.

It will increase revenue for the area, make it safer and increase property values in a depressed part of the city. Wins all around.


Literally spending the money on infrastructure and sticking a Target there would have a bigger economic impact on the city. Every economist knows this.


yes, but an NFL stadium brings tourism, opens DC up for larger concert venues, global events, other sporting venues (world cups, college bowls, etc) , its cultural addition versus a freakin target.

Money talks and the people against the stadium will obviously lose. Get excited! Football in DC is coming back

Bowser wants her legacy


There is no real public policy reason to support using tax dollars to build a 80K person stadium that will be used at most 20 times a year. 80K times 20 is 1.6M. Nats Park and Verizon Center draw far more during the year than a new football stadium ever will. Economic case not even close.
Anonymous
Post 07/28/2023 14:23     Subject: New Commanders Stadium at Poplar Point (Ward 8)?

Anonymous wrote:Not a fan of the Red Commanders returning to DC with substantial taxpayer funding. That said, if they were to come to Washington a better site might be the old PEPCO plant on Benning Rd. It's a large, industrial use site that is largely buffered by wide roads from adjacent residential areas. It has river frontage and distant monumental views, with room for parkland and mixed use. There's access to major arterials and to highways. It lies between two Metro stations and there would be an opportunity for infill station next to the site.


DC 295? yeah ok
Anonymous
Post 07/27/2023 16:15     Subject: Re:New Commanders Stadium at Poplar Point (Ward 8)?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:RFK! RFK!

World class cities have sports venues. Why would we not want DC to become a world class city?

This will dramatically benefit NE/SE DC over the long term.

Nats park has been one of the biggest changes to the city. The area was foul before, now it is absolutely bustling.
Nats park is a fantastic baseball experience -- i've been to every baseball stadium in the US.



No one gives a fck about your tourism hobby.


So you would rather have a huge opportunity go away because your broke ass hates billionaires?

Sounds like it will happen so deal with it.

It will increase revenue for the area, make it safer and increase property values in a depressed part of the city. Wins all around.


You mean like it did for Landover?


Landover is in the middle of nowhere and incredibly inaccessible. Dumb argument.


Can you point to any downtowns revitalized by NFL stadiums? Most of them are in suburbs because that's where they make sense


nearly half are in downtowns and the vast majority are within 5 miles of downtown..

https://dailysnark.com/2023/01/20/cool-graphic-shows-how-far-nfl-teams-stadiums-are-from-their-respective-city-centers/


and most are terrible deals for their cities


Build a retractable roof in the stadium - we will be in contention for Final Fours, Superbowls, year round concerts

The new vikings stadium has been a FANTASTIC addition to downtown Mpls.


The way climate change is accelerating, they will need to close the roof and run the air conditioning in early January.
+1 No question that the next Washington NFL stadium, wherever it ends up, will have a retractable roof to get the Super Bowl.
Anonymous
Post 07/27/2023 16:03     Subject: Re:New Commanders Stadium at Poplar Point (Ward 8)?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:RFK! RFK!

World class cities have sports venues. Why would we not want DC to become a world class city?

This will dramatically benefit NE/SE DC over the long term.

Nats park has been one of the biggest changes to the city. The area was foul before, now it is absolutely bustling.
Nats park is a fantastic baseball experience -- i've been to every baseball stadium in the US.



No one gives a fck about your tourism hobby.


So you would rather have a huge opportunity go away because your broke ass hates billionaires?

Sounds like it will happen so deal with it.

It will increase revenue for the area, make it safer and increase property values in a depressed part of the city. Wins all around.


You mean like it did for Landover?


Landover is in the middle of nowhere and incredibly inaccessible. Dumb argument.


Can you point to any downtowns revitalized by NFL stadiums? Most of them are in suburbs because that's where they make sense


nearly half are in downtowns and the vast majority are within 5 miles of downtown..

https://dailysnark.com/2023/01/20/cool-graphic-shows-how-far-nfl-teams-stadiums-are-from-their-respective-city-centers/


and most are terrible deals for their cities


Build a retractable roof in the stadium - we will be in contention for Final Fours, Superbowls, year round concerts

The new vikings stadium has been a FANTASTIC addition to downtown Mpls.

+1 No question that the next Washington NFL stadium, wherever it ends up, will have a retractable roof to get the Super Bowl.
Anonymous
Post 07/27/2023 15:08     Subject: New Commanders Stadium at Poplar Point (Ward 8)?

Not a fan of the Red Commanders returning to DC with substantial taxpayer funding. That said, if they were to come to Washington a better site might be the old PEPCO plant on Benning Rd. It's a large, industrial use site that is largely buffered by wide roads from adjacent residential areas. It has river frontage and distant monumental views, with room for parkland and mixed use. There's access to major arterials and to highways. It lies between two Metro stations and there would be an opportunity for infill station next to the site.
Anonymous
Post 07/27/2023 14:43     Subject: Re:New Commanders Stadium at Poplar Point (Ward 8)?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:RFK! RFK!

World class cities have sports venues. Why would we not want DC to become a world class city?

This will dramatically benefit NE/SE DC over the long term.

Nats park has been one of the biggest changes to the city. The area was foul before, now it is absolutely bustling. Nats park is a fantastic baseball experience -- i've been to every baseball stadium in the US.



DC has sports venues - as you yourself said.

There are plenty of world class cities that don't have NFL stadiums, for example London, Paris, Tokyo, Mexico City, Lagos, Sydney, Buenos Aires...


All of those cities have multiple soccer stadiums (OK, I'm not sure about Tokyo and Lagos and Sydney). I mean London has 22 soccer stadiums within city limits.

And of course, none of those cities have an NFL team, so having an NFL stadium would be silly.


Poor London and Paris, struggling on despite the burden of not having an NFL team or NFL stadium...


Imagine the London and Paris soccer teams pulling out of the EPL and UEFA and then get back to me. You must be really fun at parties.


We're talking about an NFL stadium. Please stay on topic.


I’m not the one who brought up London and Paris as analogies.
Anonymous
Post 07/27/2023 13:40     Subject: Re:New Commanders Stadium at Poplar Point (Ward 8)?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:RFK! RFK!

World class cities have sports venues. Why would we not want DC to become a world class city?

This will dramatically benefit NE/SE DC over the long term.

Nats park has been one of the biggest changes to the city. The area was foul before, now it is absolutely bustling.
Nats park is a fantastic baseball experience -- i've been to every baseball stadium in the US.



No one gives a fck about your tourism hobby.


So you would rather have a huge opportunity go away because your broke ass hates billionaires?

Sounds like it will happen so deal with it.

It will increase revenue for the area, make it safer and increase property values in a depressed part of the city. Wins all around.


You mean like it did for Landover?


Landover is in the middle of nowhere and incredibly inaccessible. Dumb argument.


Can you point to any downtowns revitalized by NFL stadiums? Most of them are in suburbs because that's where they make sense


nearly half are in downtowns and the vast majority are within 5 miles of downtown..

https://dailysnark.com/2023/01/20/cool-graphic-shows-how-far-nfl-teams-stadiums-are-from-their-respective-city-centers/


and most are terrible deals for their cities


Build a retractable roof in the stadium - we will be in contention for Final Fours, Superbowls, year round concerts

The new vikings stadium has been a FANTASTIC addition to downtown Mpls.
Anonymous
Post 07/27/2023 13:39     Subject: Re:New Commanders Stadium at Poplar Point (Ward 8)?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:RFK! RFK!

World class cities have sports venues. Why would we not want DC to become a world class city?

This will dramatically benefit NE/SE DC over the long term.

Nats park has been one of the biggest changes to the city. The area was foul before, now it is absolutely bustling. Nats park is a fantastic baseball experience -- i've been to every baseball stadium in the US.



DC has sports venues - as you yourself said.

There are plenty of world class cities that don't have NFL stadiums, for example London, Paris, Tokyo, Mexico City, Lagos, Sydney, Buenos Aires...


All of those cities have multiple soccer stadiums (OK, I'm not sure about Tokyo and Lagos and Sydney). I mean London has 22 soccer stadiums within city limits.

And of course, none of those cities have an NFL team, so having an NFL stadium would be silly.


Poor London and Paris, struggling on despite the burden of not having an NFL team or NFL stadium...


Imagine the London and Paris soccer teams pulling out of the EPL and UEFA and then get back to me. You must be really fun at parties.


We're talking about an NFL stadium. Please stay on topic.
Anonymous
Post 07/27/2023 13:37     Subject: Re:New Commanders Stadium at Poplar Point (Ward 8)?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:RFK! RFK!

World class cities have sports venues. Why would we not want DC to become a world class city?

This will dramatically benefit NE/SE DC over the long term.

Nats park has been one of the biggest changes to the city. The area was foul before, now it is absolutely bustling.
Nats park is a fantastic baseball experience -- i've been to every baseball stadium in the US.



No one gives a fck about your tourism hobby.


So you would rather have a huge opportunity go away because your broke ass hates billionaires?

Sounds like it will happen so deal with it.

It will increase revenue for the area, make it safer and increase property values in a depressed part of the city. Wins all around.


You mean like it did for Landover?


Landover is in the middle of nowhere and incredibly inaccessible. Dumb argument.


Can you point to any downtowns revitalized by NFL stadiums? Most of them are in suburbs because that's where they make sense


nearly half are in downtowns and the vast majority are within 5 miles of downtown..

https://dailysnark.com/2023/01/20/cool-graphic-shows-how-far-nfl-teams-stadiums-are-from-their-respective-city-centers/


and most are terrible deals for their cities
Anonymous
Post 07/27/2023 13:35     Subject: Re:New Commanders Stadium at Poplar Point (Ward 8)?

Anonymous wrote:for any swifties out there..

if RFK was a modern stadium, taylor would have come to DC.

DC has no venue that is large enough for massive events


LOL Bowser should preach this. Half the millennials would be pulling for a stadium. TS concerts are goldmines for that weekend.
Anonymous
Post 07/27/2023 13:31     Subject: Re:New Commanders Stadium at Poplar Point (Ward 8)?

for any swifties out there..

if RFK was a modern stadium, taylor would have come to DC.

DC has no venue that is large enough for massive events