Anonymous
Post 07/24/2023 10:08     Subject: Americans moving to Japan for safety and affordability
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Japan is way, way too conservative for most Americans. The people who say things like "they are safer and take better care of their people" would probably not tolerate living in an actual society like Japan.


Absolutely true. My sister lives there and was forced out of her job at 6 months pregnant because her boss said it was shameful for her to be working in her condition. (This was only 5 years ago.) Her husband, on the other hand, got a fat raise on the birth of his child because he would need the extra money. Is DCUM really ok with women being fired for pregnancy and male coworkers getting unmerited raises because their wives had babies? Is DCUM really ok with no ADHD meds or in-school help for their SN kids, just segregated schools? Is DCUM ok with their kids having to clean their school and mothers (only mothers, because none of them work) being de facto forced into volunteer work there? Draconian drug policies?


Based



LOL but I'm asking if DCUM is ok with it. The point is that a clean well-run society like Japan necessarily has standards and shaming. No "do whatever as long as it doesn't hurt me." In Japan the police can search your person for no other reason than "something was just stolen in this area." And you better believe they engage in profiling.
The doctor providing the "Free" healthcare will scold you severely if you are even approaching overweight. You all cool with that?
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2023 00:35     Subject: Americans moving to Japan for safety and affordability
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Anonymous wrote:Japan is notoriously xenophobic.


Well, to be fair, its probably the homogeny of their people that allows their culture.

People hate on the US but we’re one of the few truly diverse countries on the planet. There are lots of inherrent challenges that go along with that.


But of course gun crime has nothing to do with diversity. Australia is more diverse and doesn’t have a gun crime problem like the US.


There is a lot more fights and general social corrosive behavior in Australia than in Japan

I’m poc and Japan is xenophobic sure but it’s so safe and clean and chill as I mentioned in another sub forum on here as long as you don’t want to “become Japanese” or have local friends it’s way better to live than anywhere else really.

Australia is really very rednecky even in the cities



Yes, who wants local friends!?


Not me - I’m fine with an expat community
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2023 00:34     Subject: Re:Americans moving to Japan for safety and affordability
Considering that most people posting on DCUM have health insurance/can afford health care and will never experience gun violence, this just seems like a flex. Like some sort of bragging rights that they can pick up and move across the world, and to a place where no one will like them. They have the money, the freedom, and the tight nuclear family, so they can do it and they (think they) will be just fine. Americans who actually can't afford medical care and are at risk of gun violence can't move to Japan.
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2023 00:32     Subject: Americans moving to Japan for safety and affordability
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Japan is way, way too conservative for most Americans. The people who say things like "they are safer and take better care of their people" would probably not tolerate living in an actual society like Japan.


Absolutely true. My sister lives there and was forced out of her job at 6 months pregnant because her boss said it was shameful for her to be working in her condition. (This was only 5 years ago.) Her husband, on the other hand, got a fat raise on the birth of his child because he would need the extra money. Is DCUM really ok with women being fired for pregnancy and male coworkers getting unmerited raises because their wives had babies? Is DCUM really ok with no ADHD meds or in-school help for their SN kids, just segregated schools? Is DCUM ok with their kids having to clean their school and mothers (only mothers, because none of them work) being de facto forced into volunteer work there? Draconian drug policies?


Based

Anonymous
Post 07/24/2023 00:23     Subject: Americans moving to Japan for safety and affordability
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Anonymous wrote:I live on the Hill and am near shootings constantly, to the point that I just expect it. It was eye-opening to realize that people can wander in cities at night and not worry about this.


You realize that this is true in the vast majority of the US?


How are we counting a “city” here?


“Near shootings constantly?” Pretty much anywhere that isn’t the roughest parts of Baltimore, Chicago, New Orleans or St. Louis. It’s a big country out there. You should go see it sometime.
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2023 00:21     Subject: Americans moving to Japan for safety and affordability
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Japan is notoriously xenophobic.


Well, to be fair, its probably the homogeny of their people that allows their culture.

People hate on the US but we’re one of the few truly diverse countries on the planet. There are lots of inherrent challenges that go along with that.


But of course gun crime has nothing to do with diversity. Australia is more diverse and doesn’t have a gun crime problem like the US.


Australia is 77% and 10% Asian. I wouldn't call that more diverse.


Fine. Canada is far more divorce than the US and doesn't have a gun crime problem like the US.


This thread is about Japan. However, Canada is 70% White, the US is 58% White.


Canada’s three major cities, which are the only relevant ones in a discussion about crime, are all like 20% white. Something like 75% of Toronto residents are foreign born.


Actually, it’s 55% foreign born, and 67% of the “visible minority population” (their term) is Asian.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Toronto

FWIW, Toronto’s murder rate is comparable to NYC (was higher in 2018).
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2023 00:05     Subject: Americans moving to Japan for safety and affordability
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I live on the Hill and am near shootings constantly, to the point that I just expect it. It was eye-opening to realize that people can wander in cities at night and not worry about this.


You realize that this is true in the vast majority of the US?


How are we counting a “city” here?
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2023 00:03     Subject: Americans moving to Japan for safety and affordability
Anonymous wrote:I live on the Hill and am near shootings constantly, to the point that I just expect it. It was eye-opening to realize that people can wander in cities at night and not worry about this.


You realize that this is true in the vast majority of the US?
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2023 00:02     Subject: Re:Americans moving to Japan for safety and affordability
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Anonymous wrote:You do understand that when OP says "Americans", they are referring to White people. Blacks and other people, need not apply because they are not welcome in Japan.


Why do you think it's so safe?

It’s safe because there is equality/equity. They never forced a bunch of people into their country to become slaves. They never stole their land from other people. They are a more egalitarian society. That’s why it’s safer.


This is a VERY romanticized version of the history of Japan.

Are you in any way aware that it was at one point an Empire?!
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2023 18:28     Subject: Re:Americans moving to Japan for safety and affordability
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You do understand that when OP says "Americans", they are referring to White people. Blacks and other people, need not apply because they are not welcome in Japan.


Why do you think it's so safe?

It’s safe because there is equality/equity. They never forced a bunch of people into their country to become slaves. They never stole their land from other people. They are a more egalitarian society. That’s why it’s safer.


Ha ha ha. Search Korean comfort women.

Yes, I know about the WWII history. The point is they don’t CURRENTLY have slave descendants that are relegated to segregated inner cities, with poor schools, and few opportunities for advancement. Way to miss the point.


Yes they do. Look up untouchables.
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2023 18:04     Subject: Americans moving to Japan for safety and affordability
Anonymous wrote:Japan is way, way too conservative for most Americans. The people who say things like "they are safer and take better care of their people" would probably not tolerate living in an actual society like Japan.


Absolutely true. My sister lives there and was forced out of her job at 6 months pregnant because her boss said it was shameful for her to be working in her condition. (This was only 5 years ago.) Her husband, on the other hand, got a fat raise on the birth of his child because he would need the extra money. Is DCUM really ok with women being fired for pregnancy and male coworkers getting unmerited raises because their wives had babies? Is DCUM really ok with no ADHD meds or in-school help for their SN kids, just segregated schools? Is DCUM ok with their kids having to clean their school and mothers (only mothers, because none of them work) being de facto forced into volunteer work there? Draconian drug policies?
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2023 17:55     Subject: Americans moving to Japan for safety and affordability
^didn't mean to use “neighbors” twice

The point is that safety from individual predators walking around your neighborhood is not the whole picture
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2023 17:54     Subject: Americans moving to Japan for safety and affordability
Good thing Japan gets along so well with its expansionist, army-building neighbor, China

Safety involves more than just your next door neighbors
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2023 16:52     Subject: Americans moving to Japan for safety and affordability
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Japan is notoriously xenophobic.


Well, to be fair, its probably the homogeny of their people that allows their culture.

People hate on the US but we’re one of the few truly diverse countries on the planet. There are lots of inherrent challenges that go along with that.


But of course gun crime has nothing to do with diversity. Australia is more diverse and doesn’t have a gun crime problem like the US.


Australia is 77% and 10% Asian. I wouldn't call that more diverse.


Fine. Canada is far more divorce than the US and doesn't have a gun crime problem like the US.


This thread is about Japan. However, Canada is 70% White, the US is 58% White.


Canada’s three major cities, which are the only relevant ones in a discussion about crime, are all like 20% white. Something like 75% of Toronto residents are foreign born.


Apples to oranges. Cherry pick your data all you want. Japan is a country, not three cities.
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2023 16:50     Subject: Americans moving to Japan for safety and affordability
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Japan is notoriously xenophobic.


Well, to be fair, its probably the homogeny of their people that allows their culture.

People hate on the US but we’re one of the few truly diverse countries on the planet. There are lots of inherrent challenges that go along with that.


But of course gun crime has nothing to do with diversity. Australia is more diverse and doesn’t have a gun crime problem like the US.


Australia is 77% and 10% Asian. I wouldn't call that more diverse.


Fine. Canada is far more divorce than the US and doesn't have a gun crime problem like the US.


This thread is about Japan. However, Canada is 70% White, the US is 58% White.


Canada’s three major cities, which are the only relevant ones in a discussion about crime, are all like 20% white. Something like 75% of Toronto residents are foreign born.