Anonymous
Post 07/24/2023 21:45     Subject: Re:Getting rid of residential parking in Cleveland Park

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Another reason to vote out the nutjobs on city council


That fact the I could walk into the Apple Store in Georgetown and walk out with an armful of iPads without fear of government prosecution, yet I could get sanctioned by the city for parking in front of my house just shows how twisted DC policymakers have become. Some of these council members and ANC Commissioners are outright hostile to law abiding, tax paying citizens and need to be voted out at all costs.

Well said.
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2023 21:43     Subject: Getting rid of residential parking in Cleveland Park

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Anonymous wrote:That's city living.

Sounds like you would be happier in a suburb.


This is what I don’t understand about cyclists. If you want to ride your bike on the street, move to the suburbs or a small town.


Jobs and opportunity are in the city. It is where young people go after college. If you want to continue to attract top talent to your city,you need to have things like bike share and bike lanes, electric scooter share etc because that is how the kids are coming up.
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2023 21:00     Subject: Getting rid of residential parking in Cleveland Park

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Anonymous wrote:That's city living.

Sounds like you would be happier in a suburb.


This is what I don’t understand about cyclists. If you want to ride your bike on the street, move to the suburbs or a small town.


This is what I don't understand about people who oppose bicycles. (Actually, another thing I don't understand is just plain opposing bicycles.) Who thinks that suburbs are for bikes but cities are for cars? It's the other way around.
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2023 20:54     Subject: Getting rid of residential parking in Cleveland Park

Anonymous wrote:That's city living.

Sounds like you would be happier in a suburb.


This is what I don’t understand about cyclists. If you want to ride your bike on the street, move to the suburbs or a small town.
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2023 20:50     Subject: Getting rid of residential parking in Cleveland Park

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Anonymous wrote:I'm fine with shrinking the zones, but getting rid of parking in residential neighborhoods? I hope people would object to that. People can't feed the meters in front of their own homes all day.


There is no "right" to a free parking space in front of your home. It is public space and there should be a public benefit for ALL residents for those who use it.


I'm OK with rich gentrifiers feeding the meter in front of their home so the less fortunate in the city can finally eat. That's why I only have a bike you might want to try it sometime.


Do you even live here? The DC government is drowning in tax dollars paid almost entirely by rich people. Bicyclists can thank them for the *billions* of dollars the city has spent on biking infrastructure.


Or, they can thank the Federal DOT block grants, which more likely paid for them.


DOT block grants that are paid for …..wait for it…. the gas tax?


Only about a third funding of the DDOT projects are paid for by the taxes collected via tag/title/gas. The rest is picked up by Joe Taxpayer. So no. AUTOMOBILE OWNERSHIP is subsidized by the residents.


Gas taxes are paid by drivers. Income taxes are overwhelmingly paid by the rich, who drive. So, yeah, however you cut it, drivers pay the freight.
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2023 19:55     Subject: Getting rid of residential parking in Cleveland Park

That's city living.

Sounds like you would be happier in a suburb.
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2023 19:53     Subject: Getting rid of residential parking in Cleveland Park

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Anonymous wrote:I'm fine with shrinking the zones, but getting rid of parking in residential neighborhoods? I hope people would object to that. People can't feed the meters in front of their own homes all day.


There is no "right" to a free parking space in front of your home. It is public space and there should be a public benefit for ALL residents for those who use it.


I'm OK with rich gentrifiers feeding the meter in front of their home so the less fortunate in the city can finally eat. That's why I only have a bike you might want to try it sometime.


Do you even live here? The DC government is drowning in tax dollars paid almost entirely by rich people. Bicyclists can thank them for the *billions* of dollars the city has spent on biking infrastructure.


Or, they can thank the Federal DOT block grants, which more likely paid for them.


DOT block grants that are paid for …..wait for it…. the gas tax?


Only about a third funding of the DDOT projects are paid for by the taxes collected via tag/title/gas. The rest is picked up by Joe Taxpayer. So no. AUTOMOBILE OWNERSHIP is subsidized by the residents.
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2023 19:51     Subject: Getting rid of residential parking in Cleveland Park

Anonymous wrote:Some, it seems, would be happy if every family in a single family home moved out to the suburbs. I am by no means wealthy, but I have a house with no driveway, and I park on the street. I don't purport to own the space in front of my house, but I pay for a zone sticker that generally allows me to park near home. If they put meters in all residential neighborhoods, I will have to move. Like it or not, I rely on a car to get to work, take my kids to certain activities, birthday parties, etc. I use it as little as possible, but I will move if I can't have a car here. Does DC want everyone in my situation to leave town?


Do you not have an alley? Does your alley not have a strip where you could park your car? Or did you build your house out too much that you took up all that land for living space vs. storing your car?
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2023 12:33     Subject: Re:Getting rid of residential parking in Cleveland Park

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Anonymous wrote:Another reason to vote out the nutjobs on city council


Drivers definitely need to pay more to temporarily store their personal property on city streets. Nobody said you had to like it.

Drivers already paid for the roads. Bicyclists are the welfare queens of transportation policy.


Drivers pay for some of the roads. General revenue (all of u$) covers the rest. Bicyclists (many of whom are also drivers (who pay for some of the roads)) use very little of the road and cause none of the damage to the road.

This obsession with hating on bicyclists is truly bizarre. On the other hand, I guess I'm grateful that you're obsessed with hating on bicyclists, rather than trans people, or Chinese people and Ashkenazi Jews, or the FBI. So, keep on keeping on with your obsession with hating on bicyclists.


And child-free people pay for schools. This is how it works. And it was a cyclist who started the tired old bikes vs. cars argument on this thread so you might want to flip your script and thank goodness the car haters aren’t it taking it out on someone else.


Everyone, including the child free, have a vested interest in educating the generation behind them for reasons which are fairly obvious. And when it comes to end of life the child free may have even greater for other people’s kids. That’s how it works.


And keeping some high income people in the city paying high property and income taxes is good for poor people in the city. Unless you want to cut city services to those poor people by making city living unattractive to rich people. See how that works?


Lady, the truly rich people in DC drive cars. Big really expensive cars. And they live in big single family homes. That ain’t you.
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2023 11:48     Subject: Re:Getting rid of residential parking in Cleveland Park

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Anonymous wrote:Another reason to vote out the nutjobs on city council


Drivers definitely need to pay more to temporarily store their personal property on city streets. Nobody said you had to like it.

Drivers already paid for the roads. Bicyclists are the welfare queens of transportation policy.


Drivers pay for some of the roads. General revenue (all of u$) covers the rest. Bicyclists (many of whom are also drivers (who pay for some of the roads)) use very little of the road and cause none of the damage to the road.

This obsession with hating on bicyclists is truly bizarre. On the other hand, I guess I'm grateful that you're obsessed with hating on bicyclists, rather than trans people, or Chinese people and Ashkenazi Jews, or the FBI. So, keep on keeping on with your obsession with hating on bicyclists.



Everyone hates bicyclists. Even bicyclists hate bicyclists.


I don't hate bicyclists! Since I am part of "everyone" then clearly not everyone hates them.
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2023 09:05     Subject: Re:Getting rid of residential parking in Cleveland Park

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Anonymous wrote:Another reason to vote out the nutjobs on city council


Drivers definitely need to pay more to temporarily store their personal property on city streets. Nobody said you had to like it.

Drivers already paid for the roads. Bicyclists are the welfare queens of transportation policy.


Drivers pay for some of the roads. General revenue (all of u$) covers the rest. Bicyclists (many of whom are also drivers (who pay for some of the roads)) use very little of the road and cause none of the damage to the road.

This obsession with hating on bicyclists is truly bizarre. On the other hand, I guess I'm grateful that you're obsessed with hating on bicyclists, rather than trans people, or Chinese people and Ashkenazi Jews, or the FBI. So, keep on keeping on with your obsession with hating on bicyclists.



Everyone hates bicyclists. Even bicyclists hate bicyclists.
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2023 08:23     Subject: Re:Getting rid of residential parking in Cleveland Park

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Anonymous wrote:Another reason to vote out the nutjobs on city council


Drivers definitely need to pay more to temporarily store their personal property on city streets. Nobody said you had to like it.

Drivers already paid for the roads. Bicyclists are the welfare queens of transportation policy.


Drivers pay for some of the roads. General revenue (all of u$) covers the rest. Bicyclists (many of whom are also drivers (who pay for some of the roads)) use very little of the road and cause none of the damage to the road.

This obsession with hating on bicyclists is truly bizarre. On the other hand, I guess I'm grateful that you're obsessed with hating on bicyclists, rather than trans people, or Chinese people and Ashkenazi Jews, or the FBI. So, keep on keeping on with your obsession with hating on bicyclists.


And child-free people pay for schools. This is how it works. And it was a cyclist who started the tired old bikes vs. cars argument on this thread so you might want to flip your script and thank goodness the car haters aren’t it taking it out on someone else.


Everyone, including the child free, have a vested interest in educating the generation behind them for reasons which are fairly obvious. And when it comes to end of life the child free may have even greater for other people’s kids. That’s how it works.


And keeping some high income people in the city paying high property and income taxes is good for poor people in the city. Unless you want to cut city services to those poor people by making city living unattractive to rich people. See how that works?
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2023 08:16     Subject: Re:Getting rid of residential parking in Cleveland Park

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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Another reason to vote out the nutjobs on city council


That fact the I could walk into the Apple Store in Georgetown and walk out with an armful of iPads without fear of government prosecution, yet I could get sanctioned by the city for parking in front of my house just shows how twisted DC policymakers have become. Some of these council members and ANC Commissioners are outright hostile to law abiding, tax paying citizens and need to be voted out at all costs.


This +1000.


This +10000000
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2023 08:15     Subject: Getting rid of residential parking in Cleveland Park

The pendulum is swinging back . . . and swinging back hard. Most ANC elections have been uncontested, but with crime soaring, people are watching closely and seeing that many of these commissioners have an outright hostility toward people who own single family homes and seek to punish them in any way they can. Really not sure what is fueling this anger and resentment. I suspect if they put meters in front of people's homes, there will be a backlash.
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2023 21:23     Subject: Getting rid of residential parking in Cleveland Park

I think income taxes need to start considering weight of the taxpayer. I cause far less stress on the infrastrucre than my 275lb fat ass neighbor and his cow sized kids.