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Anonymous wrote:One wonders, if these immigrants so vehemently hate such things as protecting individual rights, regulating industry, taxing appropriately, trying to control gun violence, trying to provide adequate healthcare, recognizing that not every human is cast from the identical straight white christian mold and so on, if all of this is so intolerable to them then why are they even here in the first place?

Think of why immigrants are here. So many have escaped brutal regimes that have stepped on individual rights (being kind), have no regulation of industry (think child labor), taking the majority of the money they earn, don’t have the opportunity for health care (why do you think charitable medical organizations like Operation Smile exist?) and are from all religious sects (and often murdered for it). Gun violence? Please. They are hacked to death by machetes, burned to death, put in front of firing squads by their own leaders, and live with violence you can’t even imagine.

You sit in your comparatively luxurious home with the world of opportunity at your feet and dare to judge why others might not see your leftist point of view? And judge them when they see the country they escaped to turning into where they left?

Why do you think we have regulation to protect against child labor, to protect the environment, to protect against unsafe business practices, why do you thinks we have civil rights and religious tolerance in America? It's because of LIBERAL politicians. You seem myopic and very confused.

Really now? Because if you look at what’s going on with child labor now (all those migrant kids dems lost….), ridiculous tyrannical laws taking and controlling land from homeowners, the firing of people who don’t ‘agree with me’, I would say that liberal politicians have a way of leaning towards tyranny that republicans do not. As for religious tolerance, that’s a Constitutional right. Civil rights are covered in the Declaration of Independence as well, but it seems a bunch of Democrats in the 1800s decided they didn’t like the Constitution or Preamble.

Anonymous wrote:In short, if you meet an immigrant, by default they aren’t progressive/liberal. Some are but they will let you know about it

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Anonymous wrote:I have found (and this goes further back than Trump - all the way the Reagan) that when anyone has ever told me they were not political, it turned out they voted very conservatively and didn’t care about social issues just taxes. Most have come around, but most voted for Trump the first time. All basically voted for lower taxes and did not care about the rest.

So, if anyone says, “I’m not political”, it could be a sign.

Interesting, I’ve found it true about people who aren’t born Americans, who just want to live life and pay as little tax as possible and invest in their kids’ well being. So yes they aren’t political I guess. They also don’t support progressive causes though

You’re probably the only person on this board who knows actual immigrants. I’m a first-generation immigrant and I didn’t come here because of culture wars. I don’t share the “progressive” vision, I don’t share the “conservative” vision.

I want to be left alone by both progressives and conservatives to live a quiet life in a country that’s not at war. Right now, I vote Republican because I want as much of my money left in my pocket as possible so I can take care of my children to MY satisfaction. The whole idea that the government gets to take more and more of my money in order to fund inefficient social programs falls on deaf ears with me and most immigrants. We see how the American government has “helped” African Americans. No, thanks.

Also, I don’t trust Democrats’ hostility to homeschooling and their need to centralize all education in order to control the next generation. When it was clear to me that American schools were going to completely fail in the pandemic under the leadership of complete idiots like Randi Weingarten, I pulled my children and homeschooled them, and they’re far ahead of even their wealthy peers now. It was hard, and took a toll on my health, but where I come from, you sacrifice everything for your children and you make no excuses.

I don’t want some arrogant ideologues telling me how to raise my children. I couldn’t care less about my children learning about diversity in school because I will teach them about my culture and proud history. I don’t want my children learning about other people’s sexualities and proclivities. I’m not raising them to be sexually profligate or to live life as libertines. I don’t want men performing sex acts in the name of pride to be normalized to them know I do I want men living as parodies of women to be normalized. I don’t care at all about what Democrats consider to be “acceptance”. Tolerance is all I offer. I won’t say a word about people who I think are living immoral and disgusting lives. I’ll be polite, but I’m absolutely not going to accept them in my heart as normal or teach my children to be like them. School should stick to the basics and stop trying to sneak subjective values on kids.

As long as there’s an exception for the health/life of the mom (as documented by doctors, not self-serving claims), rape, and incest, I don’t care if abortion is completely banned in other situations. I don’t sympathize with those who voluntarily spread their legs and then want to play victim. As women, we know the burden of childbearing falls on us. Choose wisely and live with your decisions.

The Democrats agenda about guns is very stupid. I grew up with guns, as did everyone in my home country, yet school shootings are unheard of in my home country. It’s not the guns. It’s the cultural rot that’s making people here shoot random strangers. There’s a crisis of mental health and horrible values in this country, and Democrats are only accelerating the degradation of this once proud society by distributing hormones and psychotropics on demand to confused youths. Giving up guns so only criminal minded, deranged Americans have guns is crazy.

Democratic are going to see that most immigrants do not support them and are not going to support them. Just because we’re not white doesn’t mean we’re going to be fooled by some white person with a greasy smile who claims to be our ally protecting us from racism, but is actually seeking radical control of us and to use us as foot soldiers in culture wars. Those lies work on African Americans, but everyone else is waking up. As the country becomes more immigrant, Republicans will win more and more until Democrats drop the sneaky agenda.

The palpable hate and disdain for others displayed in your post is alarming and I hope unique to you. The funny part is if GOPers had their way you probably wouldn't even be here. You are eloquent but small minded and xenophobic. Very sad.

Anonymous wrote:Actually I think being progressive is a function of growing up privileged… all this extra energy that needs not to be spent on surviving is channeled into unrealistic ideas that are then imposed on others or used to lure them into the same lalaland. Immigrants are immune by definition because they had to struggle much more.

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Anonymous wrote:I have found (and this goes further back than Trump - all the way the Reagan) that when anyone has ever told me they were not political, it turned out they voted very conservatively and didn’t care about social issues just taxes. Most have come around, but most voted for Trump the first time. All basically voted for lower taxes and did not care about the rest.

So, if anyone says, “I’m not political”, it could be a sign.

Interesting, I’ve found it true about people who aren’t born Americans, who just want to live life and pay as little tax as possible and invest in their kids’ well being. So yes they aren’t political I guess. They also don’t support progressive causes though

You’re probably the only person on this board who knows actual immigrants. I’m a first-generation immigrant and I didn’t come here because of culture wars. I don’t share the “progressive” vision, I don’t share the “conservative” vision.

I want to be left alone by both progressives and conservatives to live a quiet life in a country that’s not at war. Right now, I vote Republican because I want as much of my money left in my pocket as possible so I can take care of my children to MY satisfaction. The whole idea that the government gets to take more and more of my money in order to fund inefficient social programs falls on deaf ears with me and most immigrants. We see how the American government has “helped” African Americans. No, thanks.

Also, I don’t trust Democrats’ hostility to homeschooling and their need to centralize all education in order to control the next generation. When it was clear to me that American schools were going to completely fail in the pandemic under the leadership of complete idiots like Randi Weingarten, I pulled my children and homeschooled them, and they’re far ahead of even their wealthy peers now. It was hard, and took a toll on my health, but where I come from, you sacrifice everything for your children and you make no excuses.

I don’t want some arrogant ideologues telling me how to raise my children. I couldn’t care less about my children learning about diversity in school because I will teach them about my culture and proud history. I don’t want my children learning about other people’s sexualities and proclivities. I’m not raising them to be sexually profligate or to live life as libertines. I don’t want men performing sex acts in the name of pride to be normalized to them know I do I want men living as parodies of women to be normalized. I don’t care at all about what Democrats consider to be “acceptance”. Tolerance is all I offer. I won’t say a word about people who I think are living immoral and disgusting lives. I’ll be polite, but I’m absolutely not going to accept them in my heart as normal or teach my children to be like them. School should stick to the basics and stop trying to sneak subjective values on kids.

As long as there’s an exception for the health/life of the mom (as documented by doctors, not self-serving claims), rape, and incest, I don’t care if abortion is completely banned in other situations. I don’t sympathize with those who voluntarily spread their legs and then want to play victim. As women, we know the burden of childbearing falls on us. Choose wisely and live with your decisions.

The Democrats agenda about guns is very stupid. I grew up with guns, as did everyone in my home country, yet school shootings are unheard of in my home country. It’s not the guns. It’s the cultural rot that’s making people here shoot random strangers. There’s a crisis of mental health and horrible values in this country, and Democrats are only accelerating the degradation of this once proud society by distributing hormones and psychotropics on demand to confused youths. Giving up guns so only criminal minded, deranged Americans have guns is crazy.

Democratic are going to see that most immigrants do not support them and are not going to support them. Just because we’re not white doesn’t mean we’re going to be fooled by some white person with a greasy smile who claims to be our ally protecting us from racism, but is actually seeking radical control of us and to use us as foot soldiers in culture wars. Those lies work on African Americans, but everyone else is waking up. As the country becomes more immigrant, Republicans will win more and more until Democrats drop the sneaky agenda.

What a distorted view of the world and politics. I feel sorry for you.

My views are similar to pp's. I'm not an immigrant but I'm first generation, married to a foreign born person. I think people like you, with your "I feel sorry for you" are in for a rude awakening when you figure out you're being lied to.

Are you from some country that treats to it's women like 2nd class citizens? Maybe you are used to that but the majority of voters here are pissed off about roe being overturned and intend to fight back to try to restore our daughter's rights.

NP. You are incorrect because you are hyper focused. I have a daughter in her 20s and my main focus is not whether or not she can abort. My main focus is on the rising crime in this area. In her young life, she’s already encountered some pretty dangerous situations that she’s gotten out of because she’s alert to her surroundings. It’s a pretty rude awakening when you’ve already been filmed on one occasion and followed on another, and have had to think fast to extricate yourself from danger. And this is in wealthy areas of Fairfax County. Am I surprised? No. Look at the people voted in, in this area. They lie, cover up brutal rapes in the school system, commit crimes, and the latest round of politicians (and leftist juries) think they can ‘stick it to the MAGAS’ by setting them free.

The risks of my daughter dying at the hands of one of the crazies you are setting free, letting in, or however else excusing are much greater than her risks during childbirth.

Again you put cherry picked things out there and complain about how bad America is, but surely it's better than where you came from. Crime is up everywhere, including in Republican-controlled areas yet you want to exclusively blame Democrats? And, gun violence and mass shootings are up, and guns continue to flow into the hands of criminals and that IS the fault of your cherished Republicans.

I’m not that poster so that destroys your cherry picked sentence. Stop with the tired “Republican controlled” and “everywhere” bs because it’s just that. TX might be red, but Houston and Austin are blue. As long as guns are in the hands of criminals (cartels anyone?), taking them out of law-abiding citizens hands is profoundly stupid.

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Anonymous wrote:I have found (and this goes further back than Trump - all the way the Reagan) that when anyone has ever told me they were not political, it turned out they voted very conservatively and didn’t care about social issues just taxes. Most have come around, but most voted for Trump the first time. All basically voted for lower taxes and did not care about the rest.

So, if anyone says, “I’m not political”, it could be a sign.

Interesting, I’ve found it true about people who aren’t born Americans, who just want to live life and pay as little tax as possible and invest in their kids’ well being. So yes they aren’t political I guess. They also don’t support progressive causes though

You’re probably the only person on this board who knows actual immigrants. I’m a first-generation immigrant and I didn’t come here because of culture wars. I don’t share the “progressive” vision, I don’t share the “conservative” vision.

I want to be left alone by both progressives and conservatives to live a quiet life in a country that’s not at war. Right now, I vote Republican because I want as much of my money left in my pocket as possible so I can take care of my children to MY satisfaction. The whole idea that the government gets to take more and more of my money in order to fund inefficient social programs falls on deaf ears with me and most immigrants. We see how the American government has “helped” African Americans. No, thanks.

Also, I don’t trust Democrats’ hostility to homeschooling and their need to centralize all education in order to control the next generation. When it was clear to me that American schools were going to completely fail in the pandemic under the leadership of complete idiots like Randi Weingarten, I pulled my children and homeschooled them, and they’re far ahead of even their wealthy peers now. It was hard, and took a toll on my health, but where I come from, you sacrifice everything for your children and you make no excuses.

I don’t want some arrogant ideologues telling me how to raise my children. I couldn’t care less about my children learning about diversity in school because I will teach them about my culture and proud history. I don’t want my children learning about other people’s sexualities and proclivities. I’m not raising them to be sexually profligate or to live life as libertines. I don’t want men performing sex acts in the name of pride to be normalized to them know I do I want men living as parodies of women to be normalized. I don’t care at all about what Democrats consider to be “acceptance”. Tolerance is all I offer. I won’t say a word about people who I think are living immoral and disgusting lives. I’ll be polite, but I’m absolutely not going to accept them in my heart as normal or teach my children to be like them. School should stick to the basics and stop trying to sneak subjective values on kids.

As long as there’s an exception for the health/life of the mom (as documented by doctors, not self-serving claims), rape, and incest, I don’t care if abortion is completely banned in other situations. I don’t sympathize with those who voluntarily spread their legs and then want to play victim. As women, we know the burden of childbearing falls on us. Choose wisely and live with your decisions.

The Democrats agenda about guns is very stupid. I grew up with guns, as did everyone in my home country, yet school shootings are unheard of in my home country. It’s not the guns. It’s the cultural rot that’s making people here shoot random strangers. There’s a crisis of mental health and horrible values in this country, and Democrats are only accelerating the degradation of this once proud society by distributing hormones and psychotropics on demand to confused youths. Giving up guns so only criminal minded, deranged Americans have guns is crazy.

Democratic are going to see that most immigrants do not support them and are not going to support them. Just because we’re not white doesn’t mean we’re going to be fooled by some white person with a greasy smile who claims to be our ally protecting us from racism, but is actually seeking radical control of us and to use us as foot soldiers in culture wars. Those lies work on African Americans, but everyone else is waking up. As the country becomes more immigrant, Republicans will win more and more until Democrats drop the sneaky agenda.

What a distorted view of the world and politics. I feel sorry for you.

You shouldn’t. Her kids will play your kids like a fiddle when they grow up, with their head in the clouds tolerance worldview. Her kids will know things like they are and will advance without lalaland ideas

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Anonymous wrote:I have found (and this goes further back than Trump - all the way the Reagan) that when anyone has ever told me they were not political, it turned out they voted very conservatively and didn’t care about social issues just taxes. Most have come around, but most voted for Trump the first time. All basically voted for lower taxes and did not care about the rest.

So, if anyone says, “I’m not political”, it could be a sign.

Interesting, I’ve found it true about people who aren’t born Americans, who just want to live life and pay as little tax as possible and invest in their kids’ well being. So yes they aren’t political I guess. They also don’t support progressive causes though

You’re probably the only person on this board who knows actual immigrants. I’m a first-generation immigrant and I didn’t come here because of culture wars. I don’t share the “progressive” vision, I don’t share the “conservative” vision.

I want to be left alone by both progressives and conservatives to live a quiet life in a country that’s not at war. Right now, I vote Republican because I want as much of my money left in my pocket as possible so I can take care of my children to MY satisfaction. The whole idea that the government gets to take more and more of my money in order to fund inefficient social programs falls on deaf ears with me and most immigrants. We see how the American government has “helped” African Americans. No, thanks.

Also, I don’t trust Democrats’ hostility to homeschooling and their need to centralize all education in order to control the next generation. When it was clear to me that American schools were going to completely fail in the pandemic under the leadership of complete idiots like Randi Weingarten, I pulled my children and homeschooled them, and they’re far ahead of even their wealthy peers now. It was hard, and took a toll on my health, but where I come from, you sacrifice everything for your children and you make no excuses.

I don’t want some arrogant ideologues telling me how to raise my children. I couldn’t care less about my children learning about diversity in school because I will teach them about my culture and proud history. I don’t want my children learning about other people’s sexualities and proclivities. I’m not raising them to be sexually profligate or to live life as libertines. I don’t want men performing sex acts in the name of pride to be normalized to them know I do I want men living as parodies of women to be normalized. I don’t care at all about what Democrats consider to be “acceptance”. Tolerance is all I offer. I won’t say a word about people who I think are living immoral and disgusting lives. I’ll be polite, but I’m absolutely not going to accept them in my heart as normal or teach my children to be like them. School should stick to the basics and stop trying to sneak subjective values on kids.

As long as there’s an exception for the health/life of the mom (as documented by doctors, not self-serving claims), rape, and incest, I don’t care if abortion is completely banned in other situations. I don’t sympathize with those who voluntarily spread their legs and then want to play victim. As women, we know the burden of childbearing falls on us. Choose wisely and live with your decisions.

The Democrats agenda about guns is very stupid. I grew up with guns, as did everyone in my home country, yet school shootings are unheard of in my home country. It’s not the guns. It’s the cultural rot that’s making people here shoot random strangers. There’s a crisis of mental health and horrible values in this country, and Democrats are only accelerating the degradation of this once proud society by distributing hormones and psychotropics on demand to confused youths. Giving up guns so only criminal minded, deranged Americans have guns is crazy.

Democratic are going to see that most immigrants do not support them and are not going to support them. Just because we’re not white doesn’t mean we’re going to be fooled by some white person with a greasy smile who claims to be our ally protecting us from racism, but is actually seeking radical control of us and to use us as foot soldiers in culture wars. Those lies work on African Americans, but everyone else is waking up. As the country becomes more immigrant, Republicans will win more and more until Democrats drop the sneaky agenda.

What a distorted view of the world and politics. I feel sorry for you.

My views are similar to pp's. I'm not an immigrant but I'm first generation, married to a foreign born person. I think people like you, with your "I feel sorry for you" are in for a rude awakening when you figure out you're being lied to.

Are you from some country that treats to it's women like 2nd class citizens? Maybe you are used to that but the majority of voters here are pissed off about roe being overturned and intend to fight back to try to restore our daughter's rights.

NP. You are incorrect because you are hyper focused. I have a daughter in her 20s and my main focus is not whether or not she can abort. My main focus is on the rising crime in this area. In her young life, she’s already encountered some pretty dangerous situations that she’s gotten out of because she’s alert to her surroundings. It’s a pretty rude awakening when you’ve already been filmed on one occasion and followed on another, and have had to think fast to extricate yourself from danger. And this is in wealthy areas of Fairfax County. Am I surprised? No. Look at the people voted in, in this area. They lie, cover up brutal rapes in the school system, commit crimes, and the latest round of politicians (and leftist juries) think they can ‘stick it to the MAGAS’ by setting them free.

The risks of my daughter dying at the hands of one of the crazies you are setting free, letting in, or however else excusing are much greater than her risks during childbirth.

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Anonymous wrote:One wonders, if these immigrants so vehemently hate such things as protecting individual rights, regulating industry, taxing appropriately, trying to control gun violence, trying to provide adequate healthcare, recognizing that not every human is cast from the identical straight white christian mold and so on, if all of this is so intolerable to them then why are they even here in the first place?

Think of why immigrants are here. So many have escaped brutal regimes that have stepped on individual rights (being kind), have no regulation of industry (think child labor), taking the majority of the money they earn, don’t have the opportunity for health care (why do you think charitable medical organizations like Operation Smile exist?) and are from all religious sects (and often murdered for it). Gun violence? Please. They are hacked to death by machetes, burned to death, put in front of firing squads by their own leaders, and live with violence you can’t even imagine.

You sit in your comparatively luxurious home with the world of opportunity at your feet and dare to judge why others might not see your leftist point of view? And judge them when they see the country they escaped to turning into where they left?

Why do you think we have regulation to protect against child labor, to protect the environment, to protect against unsafe business practices, why do you thinks we have civil rights and religious tolerance in America? It's because of LIBERAL politicians. You seem myopic and very confused.

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Anonymous wrote:I have found (and this goes further back than Trump - all the way the Reagan) that when anyone has ever told me they were not political, it turned out they voted very conservatively and didn’t care about social issues just taxes. Most have come around, but most voted for Trump the first time. All basically voted for lower taxes and did not care about the rest.

So, if anyone says, “I’m not political”, it could be a sign.

Interesting, I’ve found it true about people who aren’t born Americans, who just want to live life and pay as little tax as possible and invest in their kids’ well being. So yes they aren’t political I guess. They also don’t support progressive causes though

You’re probably the only person on this board who knows actual immigrants. I’m a first-generation immigrant and I didn’t come here because of culture wars. I don’t share the “progressive” vision, I don’t share the “conservative” vision.

I want to be left alone by both progressives and conservatives to live a quiet life in a country that’s not at war. Right now, I vote Republican because I want as much of my money left in my pocket as possible so I can take care of my children to MY satisfaction. The whole idea that the government gets to take more and more of my money in order to fund inefficient social programs falls on deaf ears with me and most immigrants. We see how the American government has “helped” African Americans. No, thanks.

Also, I don’t trust Democrats’ hostility to homeschooling and their need to centralize all education in order to control the next generation. When it was clear to me that American schools were going to completely fail in the pandemic under the leadership of complete idiots like Randi Weingarten, I pulled my children and homeschooled them, and they’re far ahead of even their wealthy peers now. It was hard, and took a toll on my health, but where I come from, you sacrifice everything for your children and you make no excuses.

I don’t want some arrogant ideologues telling me how to raise my children. I couldn’t care less about my children learning about diversity in school because I will teach them about my culture and proud history. I don’t want my children learning about other people’s sexualities and proclivities. I’m not raising them to be sexually profligate or to live life as libertines. I don’t want men performing sex acts in the name of pride to be normalized to them know I do I want men living as parodies of women to be normalized. I don’t care at all about what Democrats consider to be “acceptance”. Tolerance is all I offer. I won’t say a word about people who I think are living immoral and disgusting lives. I’ll be polite, but I’m absolutely not going to accept them in my heart as normal or teach my children to be like them. School should stick to the basics and stop trying to sneak subjective values on kids.

As long as there’s an exception for the health/life of the mom (as documented by doctors, not self-serving claims), rape, and incest, I don’t care if abortion is completely banned in other situations. I don’t sympathize with those who voluntarily spread their legs and then want to play victim. As women, we know the burden of childbearing falls on us. Choose wisely and live with your decisions.

The Democrats agenda about guns is very stupid. I grew up with guns, as did everyone in my home country, yet school shootings are unheard of in my home country. It’s not the guns. It’s the cultural rot that’s making people here shoot random strangers. There’s a crisis of mental health and horrible values in this country, and Democrats are only accelerating the degradation of this once proud society by distributing hormones and psychotropics on demand to confused youths. Giving up guns so only criminal minded, deranged Americans have guns is crazy.

Democratic are going to see that most immigrants do not support them and are not going to support them. Just because we’re not white doesn’t mean we’re going to be fooled by some white person with a greasy smile who claims to be our ally protecting us from racism, but is actually seeking radical control of us and to use us as foot soldiers in culture wars. Those lies work on African Americans, but everyone else is waking up. As the country becomes more immigrant, Republicans will win more and more until Democrats drop the sneaky agenda.

What a distorted view of the world and politics. I feel sorry for you.

My views are similar to pp's. I'm not an immigrant but I'm first generation, married to a foreign born person. I think people like you, with your "I feel sorry for you" are in for a rude awakening when you figure out you're being lied to.

Are you from some country that treats to it's women like 2nd class citizens? Maybe you are used to that but the majority of voters here are pissed off about roe being overturned and intend to fight back to try to restore our daughter's rights.

NP. You are incorrect because you are hyper focused. I have a daughter in her 20s and my main focus is not whether or not she can abort. My main focus is on the rising crime in this area. In her young life, she’s already encountered some pretty dangerous situations that she’s gotten out of because she’s alert to her surroundings. It’s a pretty rude awakening when you’ve already been filmed on one occasion and followed on another, and have had to think fast to extricate yourself from danger. And this is in wealthy areas of Fairfax County. Am I surprised? No. Look at the people voted in, in this area. They lie, cover up brutal rapes in the school system, commit crimes, and the latest round of politicians (and leftist juries) think they can ‘stick it to the MAGAS’ by setting them free.

The risks of my daughter dying at the hands of one of the crazies you are setting free, letting in, or however else excusing are much greater than her risks during childbirth.

Again you put cherry picked things out there and complain about how bad America is, but surely it's better than where you came from. Crime is up everywhere, including in Republican-controlled areas yet you want to exclusively blame Democrats? And, gun violence and mass shootings are up, and guns continue to flow into the hands of criminals and that IS the fault of your cherished Republicans.

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Anonymous wrote:One wonders, if these immigrants so vehemently hate such things as protecting individual rights, regulating industry, taxing appropriately, trying to control gun violence, trying to provide adequate healthcare, recognizing that not every human is cast from the identical straight white christian mold and so on, if all of this is so intolerable to them then why are they even here in the first place?

Think of why immigrants are here. So many have escaped brutal regimes that have stepped on individual rights (being kind), have no regulation of industry (think child labor), taking the majority of the money they earn, don’t have the opportunity for health care (why do you think charitable medical organizations like Operation Smile exist?) and are from all religious sects (and often murdered for it). Gun violence? Please. They are hacked to death by machetes, burned to death, put in front of firing squads by their own leaders, and live with violence you can’t even imagine.

You sit in your comparatively luxurious home with the world of opportunity at your feet and dare to judge why others might not see your leftist point of view? And judge them when they see the country they escaped to turning into where they left?

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Anonymous wrote:I have found (and this goes further back than Trump - all the way the Reagan) that when anyone has ever told me they were not political, it turned out they voted very conservatively and didn’t care about social issues just taxes. Most have come around, but most voted for Trump the first time. All basically voted for lower taxes and did not care about the rest.

So, if anyone says, “I’m not political”, it could be a sign.

Interesting, I’ve found it true about people who aren’t born Americans, who just want to live life and pay as little tax as possible and invest in their kids’ well being. So yes they aren’t political I guess. They also don’t support progressive causes though

You’re probably the only person on this board who knows actual immigrants. I’m a first-generation immigrant and I didn’t come here because of culture wars. I don’t share the “progressive” vision, I don’t share the “conservative” vision.

I want to be left alone by both progressives and conservatives to live a quiet life in a country that’s not at war. Right now, I vote Republican because I want as much of my money left in my pocket as possible so I can take care of my children to MY satisfaction. The whole idea that the government gets to take more and more of my money in order to fund inefficient social programs falls on deaf ears with me and most immigrants. We see how the American government has “helped” African Americans. No, thanks.

Also, I don’t trust Democrats’ hostility to homeschooling and their need to centralize all education in order to control the next generation. When it was clear to me that American schools were going to completely fail in the pandemic under the leadership of complete idiots like Randi Weingarten, I pulled my children and homeschooled them, and they’re far ahead of even their wealthy peers now. It was hard, and took a toll on my health, but where I come from, you sacrifice everything for your children and you make no excuses.

I don’t want some arrogant ideologues telling me how to raise my children. I couldn’t care less about my children learning about diversity in school because I will teach them about my culture and proud history. I don’t want my children learning about other people’s sexualities and proclivities. I’m not raising them to be sexually profligate or to live life as libertines. I don’t want men performing sex acts in the name of pride to be normalized to them know I do I want men living as parodies of women to be normalized. I don’t care at all about what Democrats consider to be “acceptance”. Tolerance is all I offer. I won’t say a word about people who I think are living immoral and disgusting lives. I’ll be polite, but I’m absolutely not going to accept them in my heart as normal or teach my children to be like them. School should stick to the basics and stop trying to sneak subjective values on kids.

As long as there’s an exception for the health/life of the mom (as documented by doctors, not self-serving claims), rape, and incest, I don’t care if abortion is completely banned in other situations. I don’t sympathize with those who voluntarily spread their legs and then want to play victim. As women, we know the burden of childbearing falls on us. Choose wisely and live with your decisions.

The Democrats agenda about guns is very stupid. I grew up with guns, as did everyone in my home country, yet school shootings are unheard of in my home country. It’s not the guns. It’s the cultural rot that’s making people here shoot random strangers. There’s a crisis of mental health and horrible values in this country, and Democrats are only accelerating the degradation of this once proud society by distributing hormones and psychotropics on demand to confused youths. Giving up guns so only criminal minded, deranged Americans have guns is crazy.

Democratic are going to see that most immigrants do not support them and are not going to support them. Just because we’re not white doesn’t mean we’re going to be fooled by some white person with a greasy smile who claims to be our ally protecting us from racism, but is actually seeking radical control of us and to use us as foot soldiers in culture wars. Those lies work on African Americans, but everyone else is waking up. As the country becomes more immigrant, Republicans will win more and more until Democrats drop the sneaky agenda.

What a distorted view of the world and politics. I feel sorry for you.

My views are similar to pp's. I'm not an immigrant but I'm first generation, married to a foreign born person. I think people like you, with your "I feel sorry for you" are in for a rude awakening when you figure out you're being lied to.

Are you from some country that treats to it's women like 2nd class citizens? Maybe you are used to that but the majority of voters here are pissed off about roe being overturned and intend to fight back to try to restore our daughter's rights.

NP. You are incorrect because you are hyper focused. I have a daughter in her 20s and my main focus is not whether or not she can abort. My main focus is on the rising crime in this area. In her young life, she’s already encountered some pretty dangerous situations that she’s gotten out of because she’s alert to her surroundings. It’s a pretty rude awakening when you’ve already been filmed on one occasion and followed on another, and have had to think fast to extricate yourself from danger. And this is in wealthy areas of Fairfax County. Am I surprised? No. Look at the people voted in, in this area. They lie, cover up brutal rapes in the school system, commit crimes, and the latest round of politicians (and leftist juries) think they can ‘stick it to the MAGAS’ by setting them free.

The risks of my daughter dying at the hands of one of the crazies you are setting free, letting in, or however else excusing are much greater than her risks during childbirth.

Anonymous wrote:One wonders, if these immigrants so vehemently hate such things as protecting individual rights, regulating industry, taxing appropriately, trying to control gun violence, trying to provide adequate healthcare, recognizing that not every human is cast from the identical straight white christian mold and so on, if all of this is so intolerable to them then why are they even here in the first place?

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Anonymous wrote:I have found (and this goes further back than Trump - all the way the Reagan) that when anyone has ever told me they were not political, it turned out they voted very conservatively and didn’t care about social issues just taxes. Most have come around, but most voted for Trump the first time. All basically voted for lower taxes and did not care about the rest.

So, if anyone says, “I’m not political”, it could be a sign.

Interesting, I’ve found it true about people who aren’t born Americans, who just want to live life and pay as little tax as possible and invest in their kids’ well being. So yes they aren’t political I guess. They also don’t support progressive causes though

You’re probably the only person on this board who knows actual immigrants. I’m a first-generation immigrant and I didn’t come here because of culture wars. I don’t share the “progressive” vision, I don’t share the “conservative” vision.

I want to be left alone by both progressives and conservatives to live a quiet life in a country that’s not at war. Right now, I vote Republican because I want as much of my money left in my pocket as possible so I can take care of my children to MY satisfaction. The whole idea that the government gets to take more and more of my money in order to fund inefficient social programs falls on deaf ears with me and most immigrants. We see how the American government has “helped” African Americans. No, thanks.

Also, I don’t trust Democrats’ hostility to homeschooling and their need to centralize all education in order to control the next generation. When it was clear to me that American schools were going to completely fail in the pandemic under the leadership of complete idiots like Randi Weingarten, I pulled my children and homeschooled them, and they’re far ahead of even their wealthy peers now. It was hard, and took a toll on my health, but where I come from, you sacrifice everything for your children and you make no excuses.

I don’t want some arrogant ideologues telling me how to raise my children. I couldn’t care less about my children learning about diversity in school because I will teach them about my culture and proud history. I don’t want my children learning about other people’s sexualities and proclivities. I’m not raising them to be sexually profligate or to live life as libertines. I don’t want men performing sex acts in the name of pride to be normalized to them know I do I want men living as parodies of women to be normalized. I don’t care at all about what Democrats consider to be “acceptance”. Tolerance is all I offer. I won’t say a word about people who I think are living immoral and disgusting lives. I’ll be polite, but I’m absolutely not going to accept them in my heart as normal or teach my children to be like them. School should stick to the basics and stop trying to sneak subjective values on kids.

As long as there’s an exception for the health/life of the mom (as documented by doctors, not self-serving claims), rape, and incest, I don’t care if abortion is completely banned in other situations. I don’t sympathize with those who voluntarily spread their legs and then want to play victim. As women, we know the burden of childbearing falls on us. Choose wisely and live with your decisions.

The Democrats agenda about guns is very stupid. I grew up with guns, as did everyone in my home country, yet school shootings are unheard of in my home country. It’s not the guns. It’s the cultural rot that’s making people here shoot random strangers. There’s a crisis of mental health and horrible values in this country, and Democrats are only accelerating the degradation of this once proud society by distributing hormones and psychotropics on demand to confused youths. Giving up guns so only criminal minded, deranged Americans have guns is crazy.

Democratic are going to see that most immigrants do not support them and are not going to support them. Just because we’re not white doesn’t mean we’re going to be fooled by some white person with a greasy smile who claims to be our ally protecting us from racism, but is actually seeking radical control of us and to use us as foot soldiers in culture wars. Those lies work on African Americans, but everyone else is waking up. As the country becomes more immigrant, Republicans will win more and more until Democrats drop the sneaky agenda.

What a distorted view of the world and politics. I feel sorry for you.

My views are similar to pp's. I'm not an immigrant but I'm first generation, married to a foreign born person. I think people like you, with your "I feel sorry for you" are in for a rude awakening when you figure out you're being lied to.

Are you from some country that treats to it's women like 2nd class citizens? Maybe you are used to that but the majority of voters here are pissed off about roe being overturned and intend to fight back to try to restore our daughter's rights.

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Anonymous wrote:I have found (and this goes further back than Trump - all the way the Reagan) that when anyone has ever told me they were not political, it turned out they voted very conservatively and didn’t care about social issues just taxes. Most have come around, but most voted for Trump the first time. All basically voted for lower taxes and did not care about the rest.

So, if anyone says, “I’m not political”, it could be a sign.

Interesting, I’ve found it true about people who aren’t born Americans, who just want to live life and pay as little tax as possible and invest in their kids’ well being. So yes they aren’t political I guess. They also don’t support progressive causes though

You’re probably the only person on this board who knows actual immigrants. I’m a first-generation immigrant and I didn’t come here because of culture wars. I don’t share the “progressive” vision, I don’t share the “conservative” vision.

I want to be left alone by both progressives and conservatives to live a quiet life in a country that’s not at war. Right now, I vote Republican because I want as much of my money left in my pocket as possible so I can take care of my children to MY satisfaction. The whole idea that the government gets to take more and more of my money in order to fund inefficient social programs falls on deaf ears with me and most immigrants. We see how the American government has “helped” African Americans. No, thanks.

Also, I don’t trust Democrats’ hostility to homeschooling and their need to centralize all education in order to control the next generation. When it was clear to me that American schools were going to completely fail in the pandemic under the leadership of complete idiots like Randi Weingarten, I pulled my children and homeschooled them, and they’re far ahead of even their wealthy peers now. It was hard, and took a toll on my health, but where I come from, you sacrifice everything for your children and you make no excuses.

I don’t want some arrogant ideologues telling me how to raise my children. I couldn’t care less about my children learning about diversity in school because I will teach them about my culture and proud history. I don’t want my children learning about other people’s sexualities and proclivities. I’m not raising them to be sexually profligate or to live life as libertines. I don’t want men performing sex acts in the name of pride to be normalized to them know I do I want men living as parodies of women to be normalized. I don’t care at all about what Democrats consider to be “acceptance”. Tolerance is all I offer. I won’t say a word about people who I think are living immoral and disgusting lives. I’ll be polite, but I’m absolutely not going to accept them in my heart as normal or teach my children to be like them. School should stick to the basics and stop trying to sneak subjective values on kids.

As long as there’s an exception for the health/life of the mom (as documented by doctors, not self-serving claims), rape, and incest, I don’t care if abortion is completely banned in other situations. I don’t sympathize with those who voluntarily spread their legs and then want to play victim. As women, we know the burden of childbearing falls on us. Choose wisely and live with your decisions.

The Democrats agenda about guns is very stupid. I grew up with guns, as did everyone in my home country, yet school shootings are unheard of in my home country. It’s not the guns. It’s the cultural rot that’s making people here shoot random strangers. There’s a crisis of mental health and horrible values in this country, and Democrats are only accelerating the degradation of this once proud society by distributing hormones and psychotropics on demand to confused youths. Giving up guns so only criminal minded, deranged Americans have guns is crazy.

Democratic are going to see that most immigrants do not support them and are not going to support them. Just because we’re not white doesn’t mean we’re going to be fooled by some white person with a greasy smile who claims to be our ally protecting us from racism, but is actually seeking radical control of us and to use us as foot soldiers in culture wars. Those lies work on African Americans, but everyone else is waking up. As the country becomes more immigrant, Republicans will win more and more until Democrats drop the sneaky agenda.

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Anonymous wrote:One wonders, if these immigrants so vehemently hate such things as protecting individual rights, regulating industry, taxing appropriately, trying to control gun violence, trying to provide adequate healthcare, recognizing that not every human is cast from the identical straight white christian mold and so on, if all of this is so intolerable to them then why are they even here in the first place?

Economic opportunity, obviously. The reason most people have immigrated for throughout history. That or to escape physical violence by criminals or governments or both.