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Anonymous wrote:OP's (and society's) devaluation of the humanities is sad and, in large part, why we have the society we have today. The humanities are nuclear subjects that give us direct access to knowledge on what is fundamentally human. Studying the humanities gives us comprehensive knowledge, skills and mindsets that come with studying the field, which are not easily outdated. The study of humanities allows us to question and reflect, maintain a global vision, acknowledge differences, communicate effectively, etc. These mindsets and skillsets are not emphasized in the study of science and math.

This is typical cope from humanities majors. You absolutely get all those "skills and mindsets" from a STEM major. In fact you get better skills and mindsets because in STEM the results of your questioning and reflection can be verified in the real world, and are not merely a matter of opinion as it is in the humanities.

The "mindsets" you get from humanities are very much "easily outdated" - every humanities major field is subject to ever-changing intellectual fads. What's hip this year will be obsolete next year. The laws of physics and mathematics are not easily outdated... they don't change at all.

Clearly written by someone who doesn’t do any high-level STEM professionally. My goodness the ignorance is profound.

30+ years as an aerospace engineer. Try again.

So correct. Not high-level engineering.

Anonymous wrote:I'm a humanities graduate from an Ivy. Let's just say I'm not impressed by the rigor of today's humanities curriculum. Ideological progressive beliefs and wokery have decimated the fields, unless you're careful with how you plan your education with selected faculty members. It's very faddish, unfortunately.

STEM is a more reliable subject, although even American biology departments have their own problems with the modern fad for woke gender topics, to put it politely. I'm sure most faculty keep their mouths shut and just sidestep around the issue.

Humanities is wasted on the youth

Honestly, you shouldn’t study the humanities until you are over 30

I'm a humanities graduate from an Ivy. Let's just say I'm not impressed by the rigor of today's humanities curriculum. Ideological progressive beliefs and wokery have decimated the fields, unless you're careful with how you plan your education with selected faculty members. It's very faddish, unfortunately.

STEM is a more reliable subject, although even American biology departments have their own problems with the modern fad for woke gender topics, to put it politely. I'm sure most faculty keep their mouths shut and just sidestep around the issue.

Spending a week doing college tours with my rising junior. Honestly, I’m unsure of differences between SLAC and a public uni other than size.

A BA from HYPS (all slacs) or even a school like Williams//Amherst/Pamona vs a BA from a state school - the BA from the SLACS are likely more prestigious (with possible exceptions of UC Berkeley/UCLA/UMich/UVA in some cases)

And in terms of post grad income, depends on major, job or research experience, and grad degree (if any) more than the school itself.

& to get the job / research experience in college, that depends on opportunity while at school which is based on location and which employers recruit on campus and what faculty are doing research.

For some state U vs SLAC match ups the SLAC is better. For others it’s the state U or engineering school.

So it’s very silly to say all SLACS are useless.

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Anonymous wrote:OP's (and society's) devaluation of the humanities is sad and, in large part, why we have the society we have today. The humanities are nuclear subjects that give us direct access to knowledge on what is fundamentally human. Studying the humanities gives us comprehensive knowledge, skills and mindsets that come with studying the field, which are not easily outdated. The study of humanities allows us to question and reflect, maintain a global vision, acknowledge differences, communicate effectively, etc. These mindsets and skillsets are not emphasized in the study of science and math.

All of these don't really matter if you end up as a tech writer. If you go on to grad school, then yes. However, a STEM grad (typically smarter than the average non-STEM) can pick up on these things quite easily as well and do well in life and society. Look at the leadership at all the SV companies (at any level) and you will be floored at how many have zero liberal arts education.

Sometimes I read DCUM purely for the entertaining nonsense that is spouted about Silicon Valley. Good times.

SLACist barista, attempting to crack a joke when they realize they've lost the argument..

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Anonymous wrote:OP's (and society's) devaluation of the humanities is sad and, in large part, why we have the society we have today. The humanities are nuclear subjects that give us direct access to knowledge on what is fundamentally human. Studying the humanities gives us comprehensive knowledge, skills and mindsets that come with studying the field, which are not easily outdated. The study of humanities allows us to question and reflect, maintain a global vision, acknowledge differences, communicate effectively, etc. These mindsets and skillsets are not emphasized in the study of science and math.

This is typical cope from humanities majors. You absolutely get all those "skills and mindsets" from a STEM major. In fact you get better skills and mindsets because in STEM the results of your questioning and reflection can be verified in the real world, and are not merely a matter of opinion as it is in the humanities.

The "mindsets" you get from humanities are very much "easily outdated" - every humanities major field is subject to ever-changing intellectual fads. What's hip this year will be obsolete next year. The laws of physics and mathematics are not easily outdated... they don't change at all.

Clearly written by someone who doesn’t do any high-level STEM professionally. My goodness the ignorance is profound.

30+ years as an aerospace engineer. Try again.

So how are you getting your profound insights into humanities education? Taken any classes lately?

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Anonymous wrote:OP's (and society's) devaluation of the humanities is sad and, in large part, why we have the society we have today. The humanities are nuclear subjects that give us direct access to knowledge on what is fundamentally human. Studying the humanities gives us comprehensive knowledge, skills and mindsets that come with studying the field, which are not easily outdated. The study of humanities allows us to question and reflect, maintain a global vision, acknowledge differences, communicate effectively, etc. These mindsets and skillsets are not emphasized in the study of science and math.

This is typical cope from humanities majors. You absolutely get all those "skills and mindsets" from a STEM major. In fact you get better skills and mindsets because in STEM the results of your questioning and reflection can be verified in the real world, and are not merely a matter of opinion as it is in the humanities.

The "mindsets" you get from humanities are very much "easily outdated" - every humanities major field is subject to ever-changing intellectual fads. What's hip this year will be obsolete next year. The laws of physics and mathematics are not easily outdated... they don't change at all.

Clearly written by someone who doesn’t do any high-level STEM professionally. My goodness the ignorance is profound.

30+ years as an aerospace engineer. Try again.

That's unfortunate.
- an engineer

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Anonymous wrote:OP's (and society's) devaluation of the humanities is sad and, in large part, why we have the society we have today. The humanities are nuclear subjects that give us direct access to knowledge on what is fundamentally human. Studying the humanities gives us comprehensive knowledge, skills and mindsets that come with studying the field, which are not easily outdated. The study of humanities allows us to question and reflect, maintain a global vision, acknowledge differences, communicate effectively, etc. These mindsets and skillsets are not emphasized in the study of science and math.

This is typical cope from humanities majors. You absolutely get all those "skills and mindsets" from a STEM major. In fact you get better skills and mindsets because in STEM the results of your questioning and reflection can be verified in the real world, and are not merely a matter of opinion as it is in the humanities.

The "mindsets" you get from humanities are very much "easily outdated" - every humanities major field is subject to ever-changing intellectual fads. What's hip this year will be obsolete next year. The laws of physics and mathematics are not easily outdated... they don't change at all.

Clearly written by someone who doesn’t do any high-level STEM professionally. My goodness the ignorance is profound.

30+ years as an aerospace engineer. Try again.

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Anonymous wrote:OP's (and society's) devaluation of the humanities is sad and, in large part, why we have the society we have today. The humanities are nuclear subjects that give us direct access to knowledge on what is fundamentally human. Studying the humanities gives us comprehensive knowledge, skills and mindsets that come with studying the field, which are not easily outdated. The study of humanities allows us to question and reflect, maintain a global vision, acknowledge differences, communicate effectively, etc. These mindsets and skillsets are not emphasized in the study of science and math.

All of these don't really matter if you end up as a tech writer. If you go on to grad school, then yes. However, a STEM grad (typically smarter than the average non-STEM) can pick up on these things quite easily as well and do well in life and society. Look at the leadership at all the SV companies (at any level) and you will be floored at how many have zero liberal arts education.

Sometimes I read DCUM purely for the entertaining nonsense that is spouted about Silicon Valley. Good times.

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Anonymous wrote:OP's (and society's) devaluation of the humanities is sad and, in large part, why we have the society we have today. The humanities are nuclear subjects that give us direct access to knowledge on what is fundamentally human. Studying the humanities gives us comprehensive knowledge, skills and mindsets that come with studying the field, which are not easily outdated. The study of humanities allows us to question and reflect, maintain a global vision, acknowledge differences, communicate effectively, etc. These mindsets and skillsets are not emphasized in the study of science and math.

This is typical cope from humanities majors. You absolutely get all those "skills and mindsets" from a STEM major. In fact you get better skills and mindsets because in STEM the results of your questioning and reflection can be verified in the real world, and are not merely a matter of opinion as it is in the humanities.

The "mindsets" you get from humanities are very much "easily outdated" - every humanities major field is subject to ever-changing intellectual fads. What's hip this year will be obsolete next year. The laws of physics and mathematics are not easily outdated... they don't change at all.

Clearly written by someone who doesn’t do any high-level STEM professionally. My goodness the ignorance is profound.

Also clearly written by someone who never learned to write clearly. Two strikes against this STEM buffoon.

Anonymous wrote:OP's (and society's) devaluation of the humanities is sad and, in large part, why we have the society we have today. The humanities are nuclear subjects that give us direct access to knowledge on what is fundamentally human. Studying the humanities gives us comprehensive knowledge, skills and mindsets that come with studying the field, which are not easily outdated. The study of humanities allows us to question and reflect, maintain a global vision, acknowledge differences, communicate effectively, etc. These mindsets and skillsets are not emphasized in the study of science and math.

All of these don't really matter if you end up as a tech writer. If you go on to grad school, then yes. However, a STEM grad (typically smarter than the average non-STEM) can pick up on these things quite easily as well and do well in life and society. Look at the leadership at all the SV companies (at any level) and you will be floored at how many have zero liberal arts education.

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Anonymous wrote:OP's (and society's) devaluation of the humanities is sad and, in large part, why we have the society we have today. The humanities are nuclear subjects that give us direct access to knowledge on what is fundamentally human. Studying the humanities gives us comprehensive knowledge, skills and mindsets that come with studying the field, which are not easily outdated. The study of humanities allows us to question and reflect, maintain a global vision, acknowledge differences, communicate effectively, etc. These mindsets and skillsets are not emphasized in the study of science and math.

This is typical cope from humanities majors. You absolutely get all those "skills and mindsets" from a STEM major. In fact you get better skills and mindsets because in STEM the results of your questioning and reflection can be verified in the real world, and are not merely a matter of opinion as it is in the humanities.

The "mindsets" you get from humanities are very much "easily outdated" - every humanities major field is subject to ever-changing intellectual fads. What's hip this year will be obsolete next year. The laws of physics and mathematics are not easily outdated... they don't change at all.

Clearly written by someone who doesn’t do any high-level STEM professionally. My goodness the ignorance is profound.

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Anonymous wrote:Kids who want to be taught by professors and not TAs go. Not 1 %ers

Why would you actually care abt the quality of education? College is mostly about job prospects, plain and simple.

majority of kids at a SLAC are headed to med school/dental/PA school or onto graduate work/PHD. So the type of people who value education....

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Anonymous wrote:OP's (and society's) devaluation of the humanities is sad and, in large part, why we have the society we have today. The humanities are nuclear subjects that give us direct access to knowledge on what is fundamentally human. Studying the humanities gives us comprehensive knowledge, skills and mindsets that come with studying the field, which are not easily outdated. The study of humanities allows us to question and reflect, maintain a global vision, acknowledge differences, communicate effectively, etc. These mindsets and skillsets are not emphasized in the study of science and math.

This is typical cope from humanities majors. You absolutely get all those "skills and mindsets" from a STEM major. In fact you get better skills and mindsets because in STEM the results of your questioning and reflection can be verified in the real world, and are not merely a matter of opinion as it is in the humanities.

The "mindsets" you get from humanities are very much "easily outdated" - every humanities major field is subject to ever-changing intellectual fads. What's hip this year will be obsolete next year. The laws of physics and mathematics are not easily outdated... they don't change at all.

Oh come on, STEM tools get very outdated--I'm a STEM person. Sure, basics of math stay the same but when was the last time you used those without a lot of intervening tools? I have to learn so many new technologies/tools--I have to learn new statistics etc. I took philosophy, literature and history courses too and the knowledge and skills I gained through those have stuck with me for life (I went to a SLAC, majored in Chemistry and did a PhD in a STEM area). There's different intellectual trends in humanities, but the basics of evidence, documentation, logic and analysis aren't that different now vs then. My lab is partnered with a university and I occasionally will audit a course of interest--it's not everchanging by any means--just changing enough to keep developing, just like STEM.

Anonymous wrote:OP's (and society's) devaluation of the humanities is sad and, in large part, why we have the society we have today. The humanities are nuclear subjects that give us direct access to knowledge on what is fundamentally human. Studying the humanities gives us comprehensive knowledge, skills and mindsets that come with studying the field, which are not easily outdated. The study of humanities allows us to question and reflect, maintain a global vision, acknowledge differences, communicate effectively, etc. These mindsets and skillsets are not emphasized in the study of science and math.

This is typical cope from humanities majors. You absolutely get all those "skills and mindsets" from a STEM major. In fact you get better skills and mindsets because in STEM the results of your questioning and reflection can be verified in the real world, and are not merely a matter of opinion as it is in the humanities.

The "mindsets" you get from humanities are very much "easily outdated" - every humanities major field is subject to ever-changing intellectual fads. What's hip this year will be obsolete next year. The laws of physics and mathematics are not easily outdated... they don't change at all.