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Anonymous wrote:When you dig into it, rescues are a completely illogical system that is driven more by the emotional needs of the operators than rational animal control practice.

They'll spend a fortune to transport dogs across the country and treat diseases, while leaving far more to die due to budget and capacity constraints.

So if you can’t save all, save none?
Your post doesn’t make much sense.
It would be lovely if people would adopt all the pit mixes left in the shelters here and not need to transport them in, but that’s not reality.

We could solve the pit problem by swapping dogs with these shelters down south that have all the desirable breeds. Let’s send our pits down there to be euthanized and bring the desirable dogs here.

Why would you ship a dog in order to euthanize it???

Because our no kill shelters are full of pit bulls while more desirable dogs are being euthanized by overwhelmed shelters elsewhere.

Also, I was kidding about transporting the entire populations of shelters.

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah the high fee stopped us from adopting one

Mission accomplished. If that small token amount prevented you from following through, it served its screening purpose perfectly.

You realize many of the folks who are not ok with the big fee just go to breeders.

They don’t want to pay $250 to a rescue so they pay $2500 to a breeder? Some real logic there.

The rescues I looked at were $800+. Breeder was $1800 and at least I knew what I was getting. Not worth saving the money.

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Anonymous wrote:There is a lot of money in animal rescue. You can look up the financial records of a lot of non-profits that are in the NOVA area and see how much money....

It is a business don't forget.

Are you saying the people who run rescues are making a nice living from it? (I just need to know how divorced from reality you are)

Just gonna leave this right here: https://www.lostdogrescue.org/about/finance/

This shows that the amount they "made" on adoptions was about the same as the amount they spent on direct animal care (a little more in '22, less in '21) not counting other expenses like insurance.

That is, they did not make a profit on adoption fees.

Is there something in the financial statement that you find objectionable? Just the fact they have assets (from donations) they are not using to make dogs free to adopt?

They pay their head $88K. I run a non-profit and don't get paid.

You have a wealthy spouse and a hobby job.

I don't consider it a job and we are comfortable, far from wealthy.

It’s your choice. Others are not obligated to
give their time for free just because you don’t value yours.

Then, these aren't rescues and shouldn't have non-profit status. They should be considered businesses and reselling dogs.

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Anonymous wrote:When you dig into it, rescues are a completely illogical system that is driven more by the emotional needs of the operators than rational animal control practice.

They'll spend a fortune to transport dogs across the country and treat diseases, while leaving far more to die due to budget and capacity constraints.

So if you can’t save all, save none?
Your post doesn’t make much sense.
It would be lovely if people would adopt all the pit mixes left in the shelters here and not need to transport them in, but that’s not reality.

We could solve the pit problem by swapping dogs with these shelters down south that have all the desirable breeds. Let’s send our pits down there to be euthanized and bring the desirable dogs here.

Why would you ship a dog in order to euthanize it???

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is a lot of money in animal rescue. You can look up the financial records of a lot of non-profits that are in the NOVA area and see how much money....

It is a business don't forget.

Are you saying the people who run rescues are making a nice living from it? (I just need to know how divorced from reality you are)

Just gonna leave this right here: https://www.lostdogrescue.org/about/finance/

This shows that the amount they "made" on adoptions was about the same as the amount they spent on direct animal care (a little more in '22, less in '21) not counting other expenses like insurance.

That is, they did not make a profit on adoption fees.

Is there something in the financial statement that you find objectionable? Just the fact they have assets (from donations) they are not using to make dogs free to adopt?

They pay their head $88K. I run a non-profit and don't get paid.

You have a wealthy spouse and a hobby job.

I don't consider it a job and we are comfortable, far from wealthy.

It’s your choice. Others are not obligated to
give their time for free just because you don’t value yours.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yeah the high fee stopped us from adopting one

Mission accomplished. If that small token amount prevented you from following through, it served its screening purpose perfectly.

You realize many of the folks who are not ok with the big fee just go to breeders.

They don’t want to pay $250 to a rescue so they pay $2500 to a breeder? Some real logic there.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When you dig into it, rescues are a completely illogical system that is driven more by the emotional needs of the operators than rational animal control practice.

They'll spend a fortune to transport dogs across the country and treat diseases, while leaving far more to die due to budget and capacity constraints.

So if you can’t save all, save none?
Your post doesn’t make much sense.
It would be lovely if people would adopt all the pit mixes left in the shelters here and not need to transport them in, but that’s not reality.

We could solve the pit problem by swapping dogs with these shelters down south that have all the desirable breeds. Let’s send our pits down there to be euthanized and bring the desirable dogs here.

Anonymous wrote:When you dig into it, rescues are a completely illogical system that is driven more by the emotional needs of the operators than rational animal control practice.

They'll spend a fortune to transport dogs across the country and treat diseases, while leaving far more to die due to budget and capacity constraints.

So if you can’t save all, save none?
Your post doesn’t make much sense.
It would be lovely if people would adopt all the pit mixes left in the shelters here and not need to transport them in, but that’s not reality.

Anonymous wrote:When you dig into it, rescues are a completely illogical system that is driven more by the emotional needs of the operators than rational animal control practice.

They'll spend a fortune to transport dogs across the country and treat diseases, while leaving far more to die due to budget and capacity constraints.

It seems like the bigger problem is that the people who are proponents of spaying and neutering and have the financial resources to save dogs are clustered in certain geographical areas rather than being evenly dispersed around the country.

Anonymous wrote:When you dig into it, rescues are a completely illogical system that is driven more by the emotional needs of the operators than rational animal control practice.

They'll spend a fortune to transport dogs across the country and treat diseases, while leaving far more to die due to budget and capacity constraints.

Well, if the rescues didn't clear out the shelters, all of them would die. Or they'd be adopted by idiots that do not spay/neuter. It's nice to be able to save some and prevent the cycle of overbreeding.

When you dig into it, rescues are a completely illogical system that is driven more by the emotional needs of the operators than rational animal control practice.

They'll spend a fortune to transport dogs across the country and treat diseases, while leaving far more to die due to budget and capacity constraints.

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Anonymous wrote:Rescues are a total scam. A bunch of bored people who want you to fund their hobby of fostering dogs.

I went to the south, walked into a shelter, paid a $50 fee, walked out with a dog — the fee covered the neuter too.

In DC, they wanted me to pay $500 for the privilege of an unannounced home visit and someone to judge my lifestyle and tell me my house isn’t good enough for a rescue dog. Then they didn’t even have as many dogs as cute as the pup I got from the shelter.

Do a road trip down south.

And I can buy a lot of things, like a house, cheaper in the south. So what? Absolutely do a road trip to save a $400-500 fee for transport if that works in your schedule. For most people, the road trip will cost more than that.

It’s not just saving $500. Rescues in DC only have less desirable breeds like pit bulls or chihuahuas and will guilt you if you say you have other preferences. Southern pounds have everything.

You’re confusing shelters with rescues. Shelters are generally funded and run by county. Yes, they are mostly pit mixes or other undesirable dogs.
Many of the rescues in this area bring dogs up from the south. Part of what you’re paying for is transportation. But, sure, save your $500 and take a road trip to the south.
I have adopted from Wolf Trap Rescue who brings dogs from Mississippi. They are neutered/spayed. I think that’s a BARGAIN for transport and surgery, but if you think you can drive to the south and get that puppy neutered/spayed for under $500, go for it.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is a lot of money in animal rescue. You can look up the financial records of a lot of non-profits that are in the NOVA area and see how much money....

It is a business don't forget.

Are you saying the people who run rescues are making a nice living from it? (I just need to know how divorced from reality you are)

Just gonna leave this right here: https://www.lostdogrescue.org/about/finance/

This shows that the amount they "made" on adoptions was about the same as the amount they spent on direct animal care (a little more in '22, less in '21) not counting other expenses like insurance.

That is, they did not make a profit on adoption fees.

Is there something in the financial statement that you find objectionable? Just the fact they have assets (from donations) they are not using to make dogs free to adopt?

They pay their head $88K. I run a non-profit and don't get paid.

You have a wealthy spouse and a hobby job.

I don't consider it a job and we are comfortable, far from wealthy.

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah the high fee stopped us from adopting one

Mission accomplished. If that small token amount prevented you from following through, it served its screening purpose perfectly.

You realize many of the folks who are not ok with the big fee just go to breeders.

Anonymous wrote:Yeah the high fee stopped us from adopting one

Mission accomplished. If that small token amount prevented you from following through, it served its screening purpose perfectly.