Anonymous
Post 06/05/2023 22:23     Subject: Why don’t we castrate rapists?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The constitution protects agains cruel and unusual punishment…


That’s not cruel and unusual to me. Seems entirely appropriate.


Because unlike them, we are civilized and don't solve problems with violence.

Or take/do whatever we want.


Of course we solve problems with violence. THis is America. We currently castrate as a punishment. We kill people as a punishment. We inflict war as a punishment.


“We” to me does not refer to Americans. You are correct that America is one of the few modern Democracies that still murders it’s murderers.

I am not a fan of that.

I meant “we”, as in the good guys, who are part of the solution (where humans should be heading).
Anonymous
Post 06/05/2023 21:20     Subject: Re:Why don’t we castrate rapists?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I personally think pap smears are torture and were invented by a male, there is also female genital mutilation, so castrating rapists seems logical and equivalent. If we regulated men's testosterone as much as we regulate women's hormones there might not be as many rapists, school shootings or wars.



PAP was invented to save lives and has done so millions and millions of times since the technique was invented by a likely misogynist Greek immigrant physician. Although it may seem barbaric I don’t see another way, how would you propose getting a sample of cervical tissue to check for various diseases?


How many people have to have their cervixes sampled who didn't need it done? Why are other body parts like ovaries and testicles not sampled or squished between metal plates?
Anonymous
Post 06/05/2023 17:15     Subject: Re:Why don’t we castrate rapists?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Castration isn’t going to stop someone from raping, if it’s what you’re asking.


Castration is a punishment for raping.


Let me spell it out for you: not having a penis or having a numb one isn’t going to stop someone from raping. Unless you cut off the rapist’s hands, mouth & feet, too.


It sounds like you don't know what castration is. It is NOT cutting off a penis. It is removal of the testicles which causes a decrease in hormones and the urges. Chemical castration cause a block in testosterone to be released. The recidivism rate of those who are a chemically castrated in this country is very, very low.

It doesn't mean they won't rape again, but a majority do not.
Anonymous
Post 06/05/2023 17:04     Subject: Why don’t we castrate rapists?
How do you “castrate” (biological) female rapists?

They don’t have testes to remove, and removal of their ovaries has all sorts of other biological implications for women’s health that don’t necessarily equate with male castration.

So then how do you castrate women who commit rape? All these school teachers who are having sex with underage male students. What do you cut off of them?
Anonymous
Post 06/05/2023 16:37     Subject: Re:Why don’t we castrate rapists?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Castration isn’t going to stop someone from raping, if it’s what you’re asking.


Castration is a punishment for raping.


Let me spell it out for you: not having a penis or having a numb one isn’t going to stop someone from raping. Unless you cut off the rapist’s hands, mouth & feet, too.


Finally, someone who gets it! I'm fine with cutting other limbs/appendages in addition to the castration. Let's add neck to that list while we're at it too. Find us someone to sponsor this bill!


All these logistical issues can be overcome with chemical castration.
Anonymous
Post 06/05/2023 16:25     Subject: Why don’t we castrate rapists?
Convicted rapists barely get prison time!
Anonymous
Post 06/05/2023 16:25     Subject: Why don’t we castrate rapists?
What would be the metric for deciding who gets castrated who doesn't?

Because as we've seen recently, false convictions happen.
Anonymous
Post 06/05/2023 16:22     Subject: Re:Why don’t we castrate rapists?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Castration isn’t going to stop someone from raping, if it’s what you’re asking.


Castration is a punishment for raping.


Let me spell it out for you: not having a penis or having a numb one isn’t going to stop someone from raping. Unless you cut off the rapist’s hands, mouth & feet, too.


Finally, someone who gets it! I'm fine with cutting other limbs/appendages in addition to the castration. Let's add neck to that list while we're at it too. Find us someone to sponsor this bill!
Anonymous
Post 06/05/2023 16:18     Subject: Re:Why don’t we castrate rapists?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Castration isn’t going to stop someone from raping, if it’s what you’re asking.


Castration is a punishment for raping.


Let me spell it out for you: not having a penis or having a numb one isn’t going to stop someone from raping. Unless you cut off the rapist’s hands, mouth & feet, too.

Put them in jail moron. The castration is a bonus for ruining someone’s life. Do you even know anyone who has been raped?
Anonymous
Post 06/05/2023 16:18     Subject: Re:Why don’t we castrate rapists?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ok, so don’t castrate but allow the victim to release her anger on the perp.


How do you feel about the Iranian and Saudi practice of amputating a thief’s hand?


DP. These punishments are extremely rare. You are far more likely to be beheaded than to lose a hand.
Anonymous
Post 06/05/2023 16:16     Subject: Why don’t we castrate rapists?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Castration wouldn’t end rape. It might prevent some forms, certainly not all.


Then many penis’s will be removed.


Not sure you have a firm understanding of biology.


What do you mean? A penis can’t be removed?


And also seems to not be unable to understand a logical argument.

If you don't need a penis for rape, removing a penis won't always stop it. What's your plan for second offenses?


Your argument is far from logical. The whole point of this thread is to castrate as punishment and jail for prevention. There won’t be a 2nd offense if they are locked up.
Anonymous
Post 06/05/2023 16:05     Subject: Why don’t we castrate rapists?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Because--at least in theory--our system allows for perpetrators of crimes to be deprived of freedom and time but not of body parts and human capacities.

The death penalty is an unusual outlier--you could see it as a deprivation of all human capacities (thus as a violation of the Constitutional concept of cruel and unusual punishment, which is prohibited), or you could look at it as someone having time and freedom removed in a finite way (and thus as consistent with the Constitution, and therefore allowed).

But the extent to which it is an outlier is also part of why it's been so hotly contested, even in the lifetimes of most of us posting here.

If you're jazzed up by the idea of cutting off limbs or removing organs as punishment for crimes as determined in a court system as deeply flawed as the one we are living with today, you're kind of a pervert yourself. I wouldn't be running around bragging about that, which is probably why you're doing it here as an anon.

Funny how a victim's rage is shamed and pathologized, while the real "pervert" behavior gets protected. Not the PP you're replying to but I honestly find you disgusting.


If you can point to where victims’ shame and rage is pathologized in what I posted, have at it. I am answering the question posed, which is why “we”—as a society of laws, not as a society that tries to perfectly effectuate the legitimate rage of victims—don’t do this. The Constitution is the reason.

It does not matter to me whether you find me disgusting. Have a good one, though.
Anonymous
Post 06/05/2023 15:07     Subject: Why don’t we castrate rapists?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Because rape isn’t about sex, it’s about power and violence.

Penises aren't about sex either, they're about urination. And if used sexually with the intent to rape, they're not about sex, they're about power and violence. F*** off with your gaslighting.

All of this.
Anonymous
Post 06/05/2023 14:55     Subject: Why don’t we castrate rapists?
For the same reason we should abolish the death penalty.

We get it wrong too often
Anonymous
Post 06/05/2023 14:40     Subject: Why don’t we castrate rapists?
People saying that eunuchs will still rape - what are you basing this declaration on?