Anonymous wrote:It is Not crazy. And plenty of professionals in the school agree.

But only one person keeps posting over and over in this thread, and that's you. I can tell by the poor syntax and grammar (a little alarming coming from a teacher).

It is Not crazy. And plenty of professionals in the school agree.

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Anonymous wrote:Notice area counties are not “reimbursing” or “compensating.” Why aren't London County Schools, Arlington County Schools, Alexandria City Schools, Falls Church Schools being audited by OCR? They did the same thing as FCPS during the pandemic ! Its because 1) some of the FCPS parents are special and overly litigious about their rights and 2) OCR only needs to make an example of 1-4 to set a precedent for how education handles the next pandemic or disaster.

Any parent taking FCPS reimbursement or compensatory services has no respect from me. I see you is freeloading inconsiderate humans who only care about yourself. You are hurting the FCPS schools and families. It’s try terrible that you go online and complain that your reimbursement's (which you do not deserve) are not happening fast enough.

Oh dear. How will I sleep at night? You sound unhinged. And honestly, like you are jealous???? of families with severely disabled kids getting reimbursed for a handful of therapy appointments or getting a few extra after school math tutoring sessions. BFD. Seriously, you need anger management therapy or a gratitude journal or something.

Oh dear. You are clearly in denial and lack any perspective. You are missing the point and you lack the ability to see the other side of this situation, and how other school systems (who handled covid similarly) were asked to respond post-pandemic. You lack the facts and knowledge to realize that MANY of the families who are getting reimbursed or getting compensatory services, do NOT have children with SEVERE disabilities. You are one of those taking advantage of tax payer dollars and resources...and then spew skewed facts, details out of context, and refuse to be reasonable to justify your unreasonable behavior that impacts OTHER CHILDREN, staff, and the system.

The education of ALL CHILDREN (disabled or not) across the WORLD were impacted. What do they get? Go ahead and take money and services and resources from them that don't exist. Go ahead and keep complaining and justifying your behavior as "your right." Go ahead and keep hating the school system and bashing the school professionals. Keep bashing employees online. Don't be surprised when the employees then have the same hostility and resentment. Don't cll us "unhinged" and your own behavior acceptable. Such a double standard, but what else is new.

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You keep repeating yourself over and over. Where's the proof of this?

Oh, interesting. The unhinged posted is an angry teacher. I assumed it was some weirdly confused parent who just doesn't understand special education.

This is crazy that this person actually educates children. I don't care what the teacher shortage is. Someone like this needs to be removed from teaching. Absolutely sick behavior.

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Anonymous wrote:To clarify your point- that was For a very small number of students with very severe disabilities. The bulk of FCPS families asking for reimbursement and services have children do not have children with those severe disabilities (e.g. ID, PSCB services). Most FCPS families asking for reimbursement or services are indeed milking this to their own advantage- and no- other families across the country and in other counties did not sue and are not doing the same. Let alone complaining that their reimbursements are taking too long. SMH.

Someone back in this thread had a kid who sat out of school for like 3 years because FCPS FAILED to meet their legal obligation to educate him, and all they are asking for is compensatory speech therapy. He didn't go to school for three years at all because they couldn't find a seat for him anywhere. No education. I can't believe any one would have an issue with that. (FCPS saves a fortune on not paying for him for three years as well.)

It amazes me that people have an issue with a situation like this. FCPS provided no education for three years, the family asked for speech therapy compensation (presumably b/c he was supposed to be getting hours of speech from FCPS for three years on an IEP that was never implemented b/c the child was not in school). This family didn't sue. They just were trying for years to support a child with severe needs in severe crisis with no education from FCPS. FCPS called a meeting and said, what would be fair to reimburse? And people are posting that this family is unreasonable, greedy blah blah blah. FCPS saved a ton of money by not sending this kid to school for three years.

The govt investigated FCPS. This isn't the result of "greedy" families suing.

Your facts are out of context. I think the child did not get educated because outside/private placements (which the child needed) refused to accept the student due to COVID. This is an extremely rare situation, and does not represent the majority of families who sought reimbursement or compensatory services. I am not talking about cases like this. I am talking about families wanting their "social skills hours" or "speech therapy for the R sound" or "special education time in the general education seting." Individuals could not go to the doctor, get medical procedures, or even have surgery- for months!- and people are worried about some missed social skills hours or articulation therapy hours or few hours of math tutor? Unreasonable. Taking advantage of the system and hurting the system, because they are only looking out for themselves and nickeling and diming FCPS because they can.

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Anonymous wrote:Notice area counties are not “reimbursing” or “compensating.” Why aren't London County Schools, Arlington County Schools, Alexandria City Schools, Falls Church Schools being audited by OCR? They did the same thing as FCPS during the pandemic ! Its because 1) some of the FCPS parents are special and overly litigious about their rights and 2) OCR only needs to make an example of 1-4 to set a precedent for how education handles the next pandemic or disaster.

Any parent taking FCPS reimbursement or compensatory services has no respect from me. I see you is freeloading inconsiderate humans who only care about yourself. You are hurting the FCPS schools and families. It’s try terrible that you go online and complain that your reimbursement's (which you do not deserve) are not happening fast enough.

Oh dear. How will I sleep at night? You sound unhinged. And honestly, like you are jealous???? of families with severely disabled kids getting reimbursed for a handful of therapy appointments or getting a few extra after school math tutoring sessions. BFD. Seriously, you need anger management therapy or a gratitude journal or something.

Oh dear. You are clearly in denial and lack any perspective. You are missing the point and you lack the ability to see the other side of this situation, and how other school systems (who handled covid similarly) were asked to respond post-pandemic. You lack the facts and knowledge to realize that MANY of the families who are getting reimbursed or getting compensatory services, do NOT have children with SEVERE disabilities. You are one of those taking advantage of tax payer dollars and resources...and then spew skewed facts, details out of context, and refuse to be reasonable to justify your unreasonable behavior that impacts OTHER CHILDREN, staff, and the system.

The education of ALL CHILDREN (disabled or not) across the WORLD were impacted. What do they get? Go ahead and take money and services and resources from them that don't exist. Go ahead and keep complaining and justifying your behavior as "your right." Go ahead and keep hating the school system and bashing the school professionals. Keep bashing employees online. Don't be surprised when the employees then have the same hostility and resentment. Don't cll us "unhinged" and your own behavior acceptable. Such a double standard, but what else is new.

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You keep repeating yourself over and over. Where's the proof of this?

Oh, interesting. The unhinged posted is an angry teacher. I assumed it was some weirdly confused parent who just doesn't understand special education.

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Anonymous wrote:Notice area counties are not “reimbursing” or “compensating.” Why aren't London County Schools, Arlington County Schools, Alexandria City Schools, Falls Church Schools being audited by OCR? They did the same thing as FCPS during the pandemic ! Its because 1) some of the FCPS parents are special and overly litigious about their rights and 2) OCR only needs to make an example of 1-4 to set a precedent for how education handles the next pandemic or disaster.

Any parent taking FCPS reimbursement or compensatory services has no respect from me. I see you is freeloading inconsiderate humans who only care about yourself. You are hurting the FCPS schools and families. It’s try terrible that you go online and complain that your reimbursement's (which you do not deserve) are not happening fast enough.

Oh dear. How will I sleep at night? You sound unhinged. And honestly, like you are jealous???? of families with severely disabled kids getting reimbursed for a handful of therapy appointments or getting a few extra after school math tutoring sessions. BFD. Seriously, you need anger management therapy or a gratitude journal or something.

Oh dear. You are clearly in denial and lack any perspective. You are missing the point and you lack the ability to see the other side of this situation, and how other school systems (who handled covid similarly) were asked to respond post-pandemic. You lack the facts and knowledge to realize that MANY of the families who are getting reimbursed or getting compensatory services, do NOT have children with SEVERE disabilities. You are one of those taking advantage of tax payer dollars and resources...and then spew skewed facts, details out of context, and refuse to be reasonable to justify your unreasonable behavior that impacts OTHER CHILDREN, staff, and the system.

The education of ALL CHILDREN (disabled or not) across the WORLD were impacted. What do they get? Go ahead and take money and services and resources from them that don't exist. Go ahead and keep complaining and justifying your behavior as "your right." Go ahead and keep hating the school system and bashing the school professionals. Keep bashing employees online. Don't be surprised when the employees then have the same hostility and resentment. Don't cll us "unhinged" and your own behavior acceptable. Such a double standard, but what else is new.

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You keep repeating yourself over and over. Where's the proof of this?

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Anonymous wrote:Notice area counties are not “reimbursing” or “compensating.” Why aren't London County Schools, Arlington County Schools, Alexandria City Schools, Falls Church Schools being audited by OCR? They did the same thing as FCPS during the pandemic ! Its because 1) some of the FCPS parents are special and overly litigious about their rights and 2) OCR only needs to make an example of 1-4 to set a precedent for how education handles the next pandemic or disaster.

Any parent taking FCPS reimbursement or compensatory services has no respect from me. I see you is freeloading inconsiderate humans who only care about yourself. You are hurting the FCPS schools and families. It’s try terrible that you go online and complain that your reimbursement's (which you do not deserve) are not happening fast enough.

Oh dear. How will I sleep at night? You sound unhinged. And honestly, like you are jealous???? of families with severely disabled kids getting reimbursed for a handful of therapy appointments or getting a few extra after school math tutoring sessions. BFD. Seriously, you need anger management therapy or a gratitude journal or something.

Oh dear. You are clearly in denial and lack any perspective. You are missing the point and you lack the ability to see the other side of this situation, and how other school systems (who handled covid similarly) were asked to respond post-pandemic. You lack the facts and knowledge to realize that MANY of the families who are getting reimbursed or getting compensatory services, do NOT have children with SEVERE disabilities. You are one of those taking advantage of tax payer dollars and resources...and then spew skewed facts, details out of context, and refuse to be reasonable to justify your unreasonable behavior that impacts OTHER CHILDREN, staff, and the system.

The education of ALL CHILDREN (disabled or not) across the WORLD were impacted. What do they get? Go ahead and take money and services and resources from them that don't exist. Go ahead and keep complaining and justifying your behavior as "your right." Go ahead and keep hating the school system and bashing the school professionals. Keep bashing employees online. Don't be surprised when the employees then have the same hostility and resentment. Don't cll us "unhinged" and your own behavior acceptable. Such a double standard, but what else is new.

Anonymous wrote:Notice area counties are not “reimbursing” or “compensating.” Why aren't London County Schools, Arlington County Schools, Alexandria City Schools, Falls Church Schools being audited by OCR? They did the same thing as FCPS during the pandemic ! Its because 1) some of the FCPS parents are special and overly litigious about their rights and 2) OCR only needs to make an example of 1-4 to set a precedent for how education handles the next pandemic or disaster.

Any parent taking FCPS reimbursement or compensatory services has no respect from me. I see you is freeloading inconsiderate humans who only care about yourself. You are hurting the FCPS schools and families. It’s try terrible that you go online and complain that your reimbursement's (which you do not deserve) are not happening fast enough.

Oh dear. How will I sleep at night? You sound unhinged. And honestly, like you are jealous???? of families with severely disabled kids getting reimbursed for a handful of therapy appointments or getting a few extra after school math tutoring sessions. BFD. Seriously, you need anger management therapy or a gratitude journal or something.

Anonymous wrote:To clarify your point- that was For a very small number of students with very severe disabilities. The bulk of FCPS families asking for reimbursement and services have children do not have children with those severe disabilities (e.g. ID, PSCB services). Most FCPS families asking for reimbursement or services are indeed milking this to their own advantage- and no- other families across the country and in other counties did not sue and are not doing the same. Let alone complaining that their reimbursements are taking too long. SMH.

Where's your proof for these statements?

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Anonymous wrote:To clarify your point- that was For a very small number of students with very severe disabilities. The bulk of FCPS families asking for reimbursement and services have children do not have children with those severe disabilities (e.g. ID, PSCB services). Most FCPS families asking for reimbursement or services are indeed milking this to their own advantage- and no- other families across the country and in other counties did not sue and are not doing the same. Let alone complaining that their reimbursements are taking too long. SMH.

Someone back in this thread had a kid who sat out of school for like 3 years because FCPS FAILED to meet their legal obligation to educate him, and all they are asking for is compensatory speech therapy. He didn't go to school for three years at all because they couldn't find a seat for him anywhere. No education. I can't believe any one would have an issue with that. (FCPS saves a fortune on not paying for him for three years as well.)

It amazes me that people have an issue with a situation like this. FCPS provided no education for three years, the family asked for speech therapy compensation (presumably b/c he was supposed to be getting hours of speech from FCPS for three years on an IEP that was never implemented b/c the child was not in school). This family didn't sue. They just were trying for years to support a child with severe needs in severe crisis with no education from FCPS. FCPS called a meeting and said, what would be fair to reimburse? And people are posting that this family is unreasonable, greedy blah blah blah. FCPS saved a ton of money by not sending this kid to school for three years.

The govt investigated FCPS. This isn't the result of "greedy" families suing.

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Anonymous wrote:Schools are by law required to provide these services and are in fact funded to do so. It's a shame fcps can't deliver so in that case they need to pay up

On your funding point and as a follow-up on the Medicaid post above, someone who wants a project should look into if FCPS engaged in Medicaid fraud during COVID. This happened in other states, but have not seen anyone in Virginia try to do a deep dive.

Many students did not attend virtual PT/OT/Speech. Did FCPs still bill for these students’ services? I know my child’s actual speech hours were cut by during Covid. Did FCPS still bill Medicaid for the full amount of hours in the IEP?

There could be a lot of slime under this rock if anyone is brave enough to look under it! A lot of kids with IEPs also have Medicaid and there could be a significant level of fraud.

Honestly, at this point, what difference does it make? What benefit to the kids would there be?

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Anonymous wrote:To clarify your point- that was For a very small number of students with very severe disabilities. The bulk of FCPS families asking for reimbursement and services have children do not have children with those severe disabilities (e.g. ID, PSCB services). Most FCPS families asking for reimbursement or services are indeed milking this to their own advantage- and no- other families across the country and in other counties did not sue and are not doing the same. Let alone complaining that their reimbursements are taking too long. SMH.

Where's your proof for that statement? 6000 current and former students were deemed by their IEP teams to qualify for compensatory services. Only a small number of those 6000 are getting any kind of financial compensation whatsoever.

People in this thread have specified what FCPS has agreed to reimburse for. Which of those requests do you think is unreasonable?

This makes me laugh out loud....FCPS wanted to put this huge burden on top of teachers shoulders and repeatedly refused to oversee or answer important questions in true FCPS style. It was a dumpster fire process.

Agree. FCPS dumped this on schools, teachers, and IEP families with a crazy deadline and they all got the meetings done and came to agreements on what would be fair with very little guidance. Families guessed on what would be appropriate to request and teachers guessed on what would be approved.

And with all the extra time consuming meetings and paperwork guess who lost out on time with their teachers the kids.

And how is that the families' fault? We were told to attend a meeting. No one sued FCPS. The federal govt investigated them. Not sure why some of you are so determined to villainize disabled dc and their families.

Maybe you should look at the posts about how teachers feel like families are awful, litigious and stupid. I am so tired of the complaints from FCPS staff. If they actually tried to help children- it would be a better relationship. Parents don’t go in to meetings thinking that FCPS is terrible but it doesn’t take many meetings to realize that they don’t care.

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Anonymous wrote:Schools are by law required to provide these services and are in fact funded to do so. It's a shame fcps can't deliver so in that case they need to pay up

On your funding point and as a follow-up on the Medicaid post above, someone who wants a project should look into if FCPS engaged in Medicaid fraud during COVID. This happened in other states, but have not seen anyone in Virginia try to do a deep dive.

Many students did not attend virtual PT/OT/Speech. Did FCPs still bill for these students’ services? I know my child’s actual speech hours were cut by during Covid. Did FCPS still bill Medicaid for the full amount of hours in the IEP?

There could be a lot of slime under this rock if anyone is brave enough to look under it! A lot of kids with IEPs also have Medicaid and there could be a significant level of fraud.

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There you go again. Assuming the worst of FCPS and all of its employees. This is why FCPS is grossly understaffed- because of families like you who have no trust, respect, or appreciation no matter what or who your providers are. No winning. No positive collaboration can occur with that mindset.

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Anonymous wrote:To clarify your point- that was For a very small number of students with very severe disabilities. The bulk of FCPS families asking for reimbursement and services have children do not have children with those severe disabilities (e.g. ID, PSCB services). Most FCPS families asking for reimbursement or services are indeed milking this to their own advantage- and no- other families across the country and in other counties did not sue and are not doing the same. Let alone complaining that their reimbursements are taking too long. SMH.

Where's your proof for that statement? 6000 current and former students were deemed by their IEP teams to qualify for compensatory services. Only a small number of those 6000 are getting any kind of financial compensation whatsoever.

People in this thread have specified what FCPS has agreed to reimburse for. Which of those requests do you think is unreasonable?

This makes me laugh out loud....FCPS wanted to put this huge burden on top of teachers shoulders and repeatedly refused to oversee or answer important questions in true FCPS style. It was a dumpster fire process.

Agree. FCPS dumped this on schools, teachers, and IEP families with a crazy deadline and they all got the meetings done and came to agreements on what would be fair with very little guidance. Families guessed on what would be appropriate to request and teachers guessed on what would be approved.

And with all the extra time consuming meetings and paperwork guess who lost out on time with their teachers the kids.