Anonymous
05/28/2023 08:35
Subject: 3% raise for teachers? What a joke FCPS!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:most 20 year olds don’t get 3 months off a year from work!Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My private sector company is also giving 3%.
I’m sure your salaries are much higher to begin with.
My child's teacher makes $80k+
Ok. Unless they are married, 80,000 doesn’t get you much in this area. Salaries should match COL.
Well, $80,000 is really for working only 9 months of the year once you take out all those endless summer and winter vacations. So $80k/9*12 = $106,666 on an annualized basis. Plus pension plus lavish benefits.
Where do these teachers work? I want endless summer and winter vacations!
I work 10 months full of 60 hour weeks, and then I’m furloughed for two months.
See, it's this crappy attitude on the part of teachers that has burned a lot of goodwill with parents and the public. The endless summer vacations are obviously a HUGE benefit of your job, and yet you frame it in the most miserable way possible by calling it furlough.
Also many other jobs require 12 months of work full of 60 hour weeks if not more. The truly unique thing about teachers compared to other professions is their seemingly endless ability to whine and think that only they have it hard.
In addition to VRS, summertime is really the only perk. And for some, summer and breaks are a financial strain/stressor.
How is it a vacation if you’re working another job? I know not all teachers do, but almost all of the teachers in their 20s do, as well as a decent percentage of the others.
Teachers don’t get 3 months off. Nobody has a 12 week summer.
Teachers aren’t paid for 2 months. Let’s get this straight now.
Many teachers have to work another job during the summer. Heck, I started mine last week. I’ll be working 2 jobs until the school year ends.
Let’s get that idea of teachers lazing around out of your head. It isn’t reality.
Np. You definitely get 3 months off. Add up fall, winter, spring breaks plus 2.5 months of summer.
I think what you’re not seeing is that so many of us really want to work part time but our jobs don’t allow for it. I don’t care if I made 3/4 money. At this point I’d like time with my kids. I wanted to be a teacher growing up and I probably should have.
Teaching really isn’t full time pay. But when you’re married with kids, the schedule can be a blessing. I personally have a big issue with school schedules being so short.
What is (now) that is stopping from being a teacher?
Anonymous
05/28/2023 08:34
Subject: 3% raise for teachers? What a joke FCPS!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:most 20 year olds don’t get 3 months off a year from work!Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My private sector company is also giving 3%.
I’m sure your salaries are much higher to begin with.
My child's teacher makes $80k+
Ok. Unless they are married, 80,000 doesn’t get you much in this area. Salaries should match COL.
Well, $80,000 is really for working only 9 months of the year once you take out all those endless summer and winter vacations. So $80k/9*12 = $106,666 on an annualized basis. Plus pension plus lavish benefits.
Where do these teachers work? I want endless summer and winter vacations!
I work 10 months full of 60 hour weeks, and then I’m furloughed for two months.
See, it's this crappy attitude on the part of teachers that has burned a lot of goodwill with parents and the public. The endless summer vacations are obviously a HUGE benefit of your job, and yet you frame it in the most miserable way possible by calling it furlough.
Also many other jobs require 12 months of work full of 60 hour weeks if not more. The truly unique thing about teachers compared to other professions is their seemingly endless ability to whine and think that only they have it hard.
In addition to VRS, summertime is really the only perk. And for some, summer and breaks are a financial strain/stressor.
How is it a vacation if you’re working another job? I know not all teachers do, but almost all of the teachers in their 20s do, as well as a decent percentage of the others.
Teachers don’t get 3 months off. Nobody has a 12 week summer.
Teachers aren’t paid for 2 months. Let’s get this straight now.
Many teachers have to work another job during the summer. Heck, I started mine last week. I’ll be working 2 jobs until the school year ends.
Let’s get that idea of teachers lazing around out of your head. It isn’t reality.
Np. You definitely get 3 months off. Add up fall, winter, spring breaks plus 2.5 months of summer.
I think what you’re not seeing is that so many of us really want to work part time but our jobs don’t allow for it. I don’t care if I made 3/4 money. At this point I’d like time with my kids. I wanted to be a teacher growing up and I probably should have.
Teaching really isn’t full time pay. But when you’re married with kids, the schedule can be a blessing. I personally have a big issue with school schedules being so short.
+1000. Thank you for bringing some clarity to this discussion.
Also, when you annualize a 3/4 time job, you actually end up with almost $120k. That's a pretty robust salary especially when also considering the pension, 401k retirement match and all those other generous benefits.
One thing that’s frustrating about teaching is the need for repetition:
As I posted before,
I work 40 weeks a year at 60 hours a week:
2400 hours
A full-time (12 month) position at 40 hours a week:
2000 hours
I suppose you can say I work a 12 month position condensed into 10? And then an extra 400 hours on top of that?
I also have a summer job since I don’t get paid enough as a teacher, so I don’t actually have any long, luxurious vacation.
This isn’t a complaint, but you better believe I will correct misconceptions about my profession every time they come up.
And I still have seen nobody here say they’ll join our sinking ship. It’s as if you know it isn’t a good deal? (And I’m worth far more than your “robust” 120K above, a salary I’ll never see, not even if I have 25 years on and a PhD.)
Anonymous
05/28/2023 07:56
Subject: 3% raise for teachers? What a joke FCPS!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:most 20 year olds don’t get 3 months off a year from work!Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My private sector company is also giving 3%.
I’m sure your salaries are much higher to begin with.
My child's teacher makes $80k+
Ok. Unless they are married, 80,000 doesn’t get you much in this area. Salaries should match COL.
Well, $80,000 is really for working only 9 months of the year once you take out all those endless summer and winter vacations. So $80k/9*12 = $106,666 on an annualized basis. Plus pension plus lavish benefits.
Where do these teachers work? I want endless summer and winter vacations!
I work 10 months full of 60 hour weeks, and then I’m furloughed for two months.
See, it's this crappy attitude on the part of teachers that has burned a lot of goodwill with parents and the public. The endless summer vacations are obviously a HUGE benefit of your job, and yet you frame it in the most miserable way possible by calling it furlough.
Also many other jobs require 12 months of work full of 60 hour weeks if not more. The truly unique thing about teachers compared to other professions is their seemingly endless ability to whine and think that only they have it hard.
In addition to VRS, summertime is really the only perk. And for some, summer and breaks are a financial strain/stressor.
How is it a vacation if you’re working another job? I know not all teachers do, but almost all of the teachers in their 20s do, as well as a decent percentage of the others.
Teachers don’t get 3 months off. Nobody has a 12 week summer.
Teachers aren’t paid for 2 months. Let’s get this straight now.
Many teachers have to work another job during the summer. Heck, I started mine last week. I’ll be working 2 jobs until the school year ends.
Let’s get that idea of teachers lazing around out of your head. It isn’t reality.
Np. You definitely get 3 months off. Add up fall, winter, spring breaks plus 2.5 months of summer.
I think what you’re not seeing is that so many of us really want to work part time but our jobs don’t allow for it. I don’t care if I made 3/4 money. At this point I’d like time with my kids. I wanted to be a teacher growing up and I probably should have.
Teaching really isn’t full time pay. But when you’re married with kids, the schedule can be a blessing. I personally have a big issue with school schedules being so short.
+1000. Thank you for bringing some clarity to this discussion.
Also, when you annualize a 3/4 time job, you actually end up with almost $120k. That's a pretty robust salary especially when also considering the pension, 401k retirement match and all those other generous benefits.
Anonymous
05/28/2023 07:42
Subject: 3% raise for teachers? What a joke FCPS!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:most 20 year olds don’t get 3 months off a year from work!Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My private sector company is also giving 3%.
I’m sure your salaries are much higher to begin with.
My child's teacher makes $80k+
Ok. Unless they are married, 80,000 doesn’t get you much in this area. Salaries should match COL.
Well, $80,000 is really for working only 9 months of the year once you take out all those endless summer and winter vacations. So $80k/9*12 = $106,666 on an annualized basis. Plus pension plus lavish benefits.
Where do these teachers work? I want endless summer and winter vacations!
I work 10 months full of 60 hour weeks, and then I’m furloughed for two months.
See, it's this crappy attitude on the part of teachers that has burned a lot of goodwill with parents and the public. The endless summer vacations are obviously a HUGE benefit of your job, and yet you frame it in the most miserable way possible by calling it furlough.
Also many other jobs require 12 months of work full of 60 hour weeks if not more. The truly unique thing about teachers compared to other professions is their seemingly endless ability to whine and think that only they have it hard.
In addition to VRS, summertime is really the only perk. And for some, summer and breaks are a financial strain/stressor.
How is it a vacation if you’re working another job? I know not all teachers do, but almost all of the teachers in their 20s do, as well as a decent percentage of the others.
Teachers don’t get 3 months off. Nobody has a 12 week summer.
Teachers aren’t paid for 2 months. Let’s get this straight now.
Many teachers have to work another job during the summer. Heck, I started mine last week. I’ll be working 2 jobs until the school year ends.
Let’s get that idea of teachers lazing around out of your head. It isn’t reality.
Np. You definitely get 3 months off. Add up fall, winter, spring breaks plus 2.5 months of summer.
I think what you’re not seeing is that so many of us really want to work part time but our jobs don’t allow for it. I don’t care if I made 3/4 money. At this point I’d like time with my kids. I wanted to be a teacher growing up and I probably should have.
Teaching really isn’t full time pay. But when you’re married with kids, the schedule can be a blessing. I personally have a big issue with school schedules being so short.
Just make sure your spouse doesn’t leave or you are screwed. No man should be a plan.
Anonymous
05/28/2023 06:59
Subject: 3% raise for teachers? What a joke FCPS!
Anonymous wrote:they only work 180 days a year, and 7 hours a day...........
No, this is what the contract says, but not based in reality. There are lessons to plan (180 days worth, in varying content), papers to grade, and only a zillion meetings to attend and IEPs to write.
Anonymous
05/28/2023 05:24
Subject: 3% raise for teachers? What a joke FCPS!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:most 20 year olds don’t get 3 months off a year from work!Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My private sector company is also giving 3%.
I’m sure your salaries are much higher to begin with.
My child's teacher makes $80k+
Ok. Unless they are married, 80,000 doesn’t get you much in this area. Salaries should match COL.
Well, $80,000 is really for working only 9 months of the year once you take out all those endless summer and winter vacations. So $80k/9*12 = $106,666 on an annualized basis. Plus pension plus lavish benefits.
Where do these teachers work? I want endless summer and winter vacations!
I work 10 months full of 60 hour weeks, and then I’m furloughed for two months.
See, it's this crappy attitude on the part of teachers that has burned a lot of goodwill with parents and the public. The endless summer vacations are obviously a HUGE benefit of your job, and yet you frame it in the most miserable way possible by calling it furlough.
Also many other jobs require 12 months of work full of 60 hour weeks if not more. The truly unique thing about teachers compared to other professions is their seemingly endless ability to whine and think that only they have it hard.
In addition to VRS, summertime is really the only perk. And for some, summer and breaks are a financial strain/stressor.
How is it a vacation if you’re working another job? I know not all teachers do, but almost all of the teachers in their 20s do, as well as a decent percentage of the others.
Teachers don’t get 3 months off. Nobody has a 12 week summer.
Teachers aren’t paid for 2 months. Let’s get this straight now.
Many teachers have to work another job during the summer. Heck, I started mine last week. I’ll be working 2 jobs until the school year ends.
Let’s get that idea of teachers lazing around out of your head. It isn’t reality.
Np. You definitely get 3 months off. Add up fall, winter, spring breaks plus 2.5 months of summer.
I think what you’re not seeing is that so many of us really want to work part time but our jobs don’t allow for it. I don’t care if I made 3/4 money. At this point I’d like time with my kids. I wanted to be a teacher growing up and I probably should have.
Teaching really isn’t full time pay. But when you’re married with kids, the schedule can be a blessing. I personally have a big issue with school schedules being so short.
I work EVERY weekend, usually 12-14 hours. I work an extra 2-4 hours each night.
I have no flexibility. If my own children have a concert at school, I can’t go. It takes hours to create sub plans, and then there likely isn’t a sub to cover anyway. I can’t take an hour off to go to the doctor.
I am amazed that you just associated my job with part-time work. Actually, I’m offended. Deeply offended. You have no idea that sacrifices teachers make, in both time and personal health. When I get home from work around 6pm, I am so emotionally and mentally exhausted that I don’t have anything left for my own children.
Want to be a teacher? Come join us. You can still have your dream job. I’ll even leave and make more room for you.
Anonymous
05/27/2023 23:11
Subject: 3% raise for teachers? What a joke FCPS!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:most 20 year olds don’t get 3 months off a year from work!Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My private sector company is also giving 3%.
I’m sure your salaries are much higher to begin with.
My child's teacher makes $80k+
Ok. Unless they are married, 80,000 doesn’t get you much in this area. Salaries should match COL.
Well, $80,000 is really for working only 9 months of the year once you take out all those endless summer and winter vacations. So $80k/9*12 = $106,666 on an annualized basis. Plus pension plus lavish benefits.
Where do these teachers work? I want endless summer and winter vacations!
I work 10 months full of 60 hour weeks, and then I’m furloughed for two months.
See, it's this crappy attitude on the part of teachers that has burned a lot of goodwill with parents and the public. The endless summer vacations are obviously a HUGE benefit of your job, and yet you frame it in the most miserable way possible by calling it furlough.
Also many other jobs require 12 months of work full of 60 hour weeks if not more. The truly unique thing about teachers compared to other professions is their seemingly endless ability to whine and think that only they have it hard.
In addition to VRS, summertime is really the only perk. And for some, summer and breaks are a financial strain/stressor.
How is it a vacation if you’re working another job? I know not all teachers do, but almost all of the teachers in their 20s do, as well as a decent percentage of the others.
Teachers don’t get 3 months off. Nobody has a 12 week summer.
Teachers aren’t paid for 2 months. Let’s get this straight now.
Many teachers have to work another job during the summer. Heck, I started mine last week. I’ll be working 2 jobs until the school year ends.
Let’s get that idea of teachers lazing around out of your head. It isn’t reality.
That's a strawman and you know it. None of the PPs callend teachers lazy. But this cantankerous whining and griping about how only teachers work hard and nobody else reflects a certain insularity from the real world. Why don't you try a private job for once and then tell us that teachers still work harder than ER nurses, fire fighters or long-haul truck drivers?
Another strawman… who on this thread said “only teachers work hard”? I certainly didn’t, nor has any other poster as far as I can tell.
I have had a private job. I transferred to teaching FROM it. I was able to eat lunch, visit the bathroom when I needed to, and I probably worked 25 of the 40 hours I was in the office. I’m heading back. I switched careers because I always wanted to teach, and then I learned it’s 3X (4X?) harder than anticipated.
Many of us are leaving. You can listen to us as we tell you the problems with the profession, or you can tell us to hush up. Only one of these options may fix things.
Same here!
After years in the corporate sector and with a spouse who makes a lot of money, I decided to take a pay cut and go into teaching because it would be fulfilling. And I have to say I'm mighty good at it, but after just a few years in, I've had enough.
Initially, I thought it was me--that all these things that are driving me nuts are just the demands of the job and that I really wasn't suited to be a teacher. But when I hear the misery voiced by my colleagues, it's very clear that things have changed dramatically and for the worse over the last decade. Many of the old timers are just hanging on until they can retire because this is what they've done their entire lives and they don't know how they'd switch at this point. We have a couple of young teachers in the department and then there's this big age gap because almost all of those who were a few years in but not too old to switch careers have left. When these people retire, I'm not sure who's going to be teaching the kids who are currently in early elementary...
But it’s not from the pay. It’s from the disruptive kids who can’t be removed, nonstop testing and administration that doesn’t back you.
Anonymous
05/27/2023 23:09
Subject: 3% raise for teachers? What a joke FCPS!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:most 20 year olds don’t get 3 months off a year from work!Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My private sector company is also giving 3%.
I’m sure your salaries are much higher to begin with.
My child's teacher makes $80k+
Ok. Unless they are married, 80,000 doesn’t get you much in this area. Salaries should match COL.
Well, $80,000 is really for working only 9 months of the year once you take out all those endless summer and winter vacations. So $80k/9*12 = $106,666 on an annualized basis. Plus pension plus lavish benefits.
Where do these teachers work? I want endless summer and winter vacations!
I work 10 months full of 60 hour weeks, and then I’m furloughed for two months.
See, it's this crappy attitude on the part of teachers that has burned a lot of goodwill with parents and the public. The endless summer vacations are obviously a HUGE benefit of your job, and yet you frame it in the most miserable way possible by calling it furlough.
Also many other jobs require 12 months of work full of 60 hour weeks if not more. The truly unique thing about teachers compared to other professions is their seemingly endless ability to whine and think that only they have it hard.
In addition to VRS, summertime is really the only perk. And for some, summer and breaks are a financial strain/stressor.
How is it a vacation if you’re working another job? I know not all teachers do, but almost all of the teachers in their 20s do, as well as a decent percentage of the others.
Teachers don’t get 3 months off. Nobody has a 12 week summer.
Teachers aren’t paid for 2 months. Let’s get this straight now.
Many teachers have to work another job during the summer. Heck, I started mine last week. I’ll be working 2 jobs until the school year ends.
Let’s get that idea of teachers lazing around out of your head. It isn’t reality.
Np. You definitely get 3 months off. Add up fall, winter, spring breaks plus 2.5 months of summer.
I think what you’re not seeing is that so many of us really want to work part time but our jobs don’t allow for it. I don’t care if I made 3/4 money. At this point I’d like time with my kids. I wanted to be a teacher growing up and I probably should have.
Teaching really isn’t full time pay. But when you’re married with kids, the schedule can be a blessing. I personally have a big issue with school schedules being so short.
Anonymous
05/27/2023 23:05
Subject: 3% raise for teachers? What a joke FCPS!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:most 20 year olds don’t get 3 months off a year from work!Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My private sector company is also giving 3%.
I’m sure your salaries are much higher to begin with.
My child's teacher makes $80k+
Ok. Unless they are married, 80,000 doesn’t get you much in this area. Salaries should match COL.
Well, $80,000 is really for working only 9 months of the year once you take out all those endless summer and winter vacations. So $80k/9*12 = $106,666 on an annualized basis. Plus pension plus lavish benefits.
Where do these teachers work? I want endless summer and winter vacations!
I work 10 months full of 60 hour weeks, and then I’m furloughed for two months.
See, it's this crappy attitude on the part of teachers that has burned a lot of goodwill with parents and the public. The endless summer vacations are obviously a HUGE benefit of your job, and yet you frame it in the most miserable way possible by calling it furlough.
Also many other jobs require 12 months of work full of 60 hour weeks if not more. The truly unique thing about teachers compared to other professions is their seemingly endless ability to whine and think that only they have it hard.
In addition to VRS, summertime is really the only perk. And for some, summer and breaks are a financial strain/stressor.
How is it a vacation if you’re working another job? I know not all teachers do, but almost all of the teachers in their 20s do, as well as a decent percentage of the others.
Teachers don’t get 3 months off. Nobody has a 12 week summer.
Teachers aren’t paid for 2 months. Let’s get this straight now.
Many teachers have to work another job during the summer. Heck, I started mine last week. I’ll be working 2 jobs until the school year ends.
Let’s get that idea of teachers lazing around out of your head. It isn’t reality.
That's a strawman and you know it. None of the PPs callend teachers lazy. But this cantankerous whining and griping about how only teachers work hard and nobody else reflects a certain insularity from the real world. Why don't you try a private job for once and then tell us that teachers still work harder than ER nurses, fire fighters or long-haul truck drivers?
Another strawman… who on this thread said “only teachers work hard”? I certainly didn’t, nor has any other poster as far as I can tell.
I have had a private job. I transferred to teaching FROM it. I was able to eat lunch, visit the bathroom when I needed to, and I probably worked 25 of the 40 hours I was in the office. I’m heading back. I switched careers because I always wanted to teach, and then I learned it’s 3X (4X?) harder than anticipated.
Many of us are leaving. You can listen to us as we tell you the problems with the profession, or you can tell us to hush up. Only one of these options may fix things.
Same here!
After years in the corporate sector and with a spouse who makes a lot of money, I decided to take a pay cut and go into teaching because it would be fulfilling. And I have to say I'm mighty good at it, but after just a few years in, I've had enough.
Initially, I thought it was me--that all these things that are driving me nuts are just the demands of the job and that I really wasn't suited to be a teacher. But when I hear the misery voiced by my colleagues, it's very clear that things have changed dramatically and for the worse over the last decade. Many of the old timers are just hanging on until they can retire because this is what they've done their entire lives and they don't know how they'd switch at this point. We have a couple of young teachers in the department and then there's this big age gap because almost all of those who were a few years in but not too old to switch careers have left. When these people retire, I'm not sure who's going to be teaching the kids who are currently in early elementary...
Anonymous
05/27/2023 22:15
Subject: 3% raise for teachers? What a joke FCPS!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My private sector company is also giving 3%.
I’m sure your salaries are much higher to begin with.
My child's teacher makes $80k+
Ok. Unless they are married, 80,000 doesn’t get you much in this area. Salaries should match COL.
Well, $80,000 is really for working only 9 months of the year once you take out all those endless summer and winter vacations. So $80k/9*12 = $106,666 on an annualized basis. Plus pension plus lavish benefits.
Where do these teachers work? I want endless summer and winter vacations!
I work 10 months full of 60 hour weeks, and then I’m furloughed for two months.
Which jobs require 60 hours a week or more?
See, it's this crappy attitude on the part of teachers that has burned a lot of goodwill with parents and the public. The endless summer vacations are obviously a HUGE benefit of your job, and yet you frame it in the most miserable way possible by calling it furlough.
Also many other jobs require 12 months of work full of 60 hour weeks if not more. The truly unique thing about teachers compared to other professions is their seemingly endless ability to whine and think that only they have it hard.
Anonymous
05/27/2023 22:01
Subject: 3% raise for teachers? What a joke FCPS!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:most 20 year olds don’t get 3 months off a year from work!Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My private sector company is also giving 3%.
I’m sure your salaries are much higher to begin with.
My child's teacher makes $80k+
Ok. Unless they are married, 80,000 doesn’t get you much in this area. Salaries should match COL.
Well, $80,000 is really for working only 9 months of the year once you take out all those endless summer and winter vacations. So $80k/9*12 = $106,666 on an annualized basis. Plus pension plus lavish benefits.
Where do these teachers work? I want endless summer and winter vacations!
I work 10 months full of 60 hour weeks, and then I’m furloughed for two months.
See, it's this crappy attitude on the part of teachers that has burned a lot of goodwill with parents and the public. The endless summer vacations are obviously a HUGE benefit of your job, and yet you frame it in the most miserable way possible by calling it furlough.
Also many other jobs require 12 months of work full of 60 hour weeks if not more. The truly unique thing about teachers compared to other professions is their seemingly endless ability to whine and think that only they have it hard.
In addition to VRS, summertime is really the only perk. And for some, summer and breaks are a financial strain/stressor.
How is it a vacation if you’re working another job? I know not all teachers do, but almost all of the teachers in their 20s do, as well as a decent percentage of the others.
Teachers don’t get 3 months off. Nobody has a 12 week summer.
Teachers aren’t paid for 2 months. Let’s get this straight now.
Many teachers have to work another job during the summer. Heck, I started mine last week. I’ll be working 2 jobs until the school year ends.
Let’s get that idea of teachers lazing around out of your head. It isn’t reality.
That's a strawman and you know it. None of the PPs callend teachers lazy. But this cantankerous whining and griping about how only teachers work hard and nobody else reflects a certain insularity from the real world. Why don't you try a private job for once and then tell us that teachers still work harder than ER nurses, fire fighters or long-haul truck drivers?
Another strawman… who on this thread said “only teachers work hard”? I certainly didn’t, nor has any other poster as far as I can tell.
I have had a private job. I transferred to teaching FROM it. I was able to eat lunch, visit the bathroom when I needed to, and I probably worked 25 of the 40 hours I was in the office. I’m heading back. I switched careers because I always wanted to teach, and then I learned it’s 3X (4X?) harder than anticipated.
Many of us are leaving. You can listen to us as we tell you the problems with the profession, or you can tell us to hush up. Only one of these options may fix things.
Anonymous
05/27/2023 21:59
Subject: Re:3% raise for teachers? What a joke FCPS!
My ex is a long haul truck driver. He loves it. He says the worst part is the boredom but it isn't a stressful job. He makes more than I do as a teacher with nearly two Master's degrees.
Anonymous
05/27/2023 21:56
Subject: 3% raise for teachers? What a joke FCPS!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:most 20 year olds don’t get 3 months off a year from work!Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My private sector company is also giving 3%.
I’m sure your salaries are much higher to begin with.
My child's teacher makes $80k+
Ok. Unless they are married, 80,000 doesn’t get you much in this area. Salaries should match COL.
Well, $80,000 is really for working only 9 months of the year once you take out all those endless summer and winter vacations. So $80k/9*12 = $106,666 on an annualized basis. Plus pension plus lavish benefits.
Where do these teachers work? I want endless summer and winter vacations!
I work 10 months full of 60 hour weeks, and then I’m furloughed for two months.
See, it's this crappy attitude on the part of teachers that has burned a lot of goodwill with parents and the public. The endless summer vacations are obviously a HUGE benefit of your job, and yet you frame it in the most miserable way possible by calling it furlough.
Also many other jobs require 12 months of work full of 60 hour weeks if not more. The truly unique thing about teachers compared to other professions is their seemingly endless ability to whine and think that only they have it hard.
In addition to VRS, summertime is really the only perk. And for some, summer and breaks are a financial strain/stressor.
How is it a vacation if you’re working another job? I know not all teachers do, but almost all of the teachers in their 20s do, as well as a decent percentage of the others.
Teachers don’t get 3 months off. Nobody has a 12 week summer.
Teachers aren’t paid for 2 months. Let’s get this straight now.
Many teachers have to work another job during the summer. Heck, I started mine last week. I’ll be working 2 jobs until the school year ends.
Let’s get that idea of teachers lazing around out of your head. It isn’t reality.
That's a strawman and you know it. None of the PPs callend teachers lazy. But this cantankerous whining and griping about how only teachers work hard and nobody else reflects a certain insularity from the real world. Why don't you try a private job for once and then tell us that teachers still work harder than ER nurses, fire fighters or long-haul truck drivers?
Anonymous
05/27/2023 21:47
Subject: 3% raise for teachers? What a joke FCPS!
Anonymous wrote:most 20 year olds don’t get 3 months off a year from work!Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My private sector company is also giving 3%.
I’m sure your salaries are much higher to begin with.
My child's teacher makes $80k+
Ok. Unless they are married, 80,000 doesn’t get you much in this area. Salaries should match COL.
Well, $80,000 is really for working only 9 months of the year once you take out all those endless summer and winter vacations. So $80k/9*12 = $106,666 on an annualized basis. Plus pension plus lavish benefits.
Where do these teachers work? I want endless summer and winter vacations!
I work 10 months full of 60 hour weeks, and then I’m furloughed for two months.
See, it's this crappy attitude on the part of teachers that has burned a lot of goodwill with parents and the public. The endless summer vacations are obviously a HUGE benefit of your job, and yet you frame it in the most miserable way possible by calling it furlough.
Also many other jobs require 12 months of work full of 60 hour weeks if not more. The truly unique thing about teachers compared to other professions is their seemingly endless ability to whine and think that only they have it hard.
In addition to VRS, summertime is really the only perk. And for some, summer and breaks are a financial strain/stressor.
How is it a vacation if you’re working another job? I know not all teachers do, but almost all of the teachers in their 20s do, as well as a decent percentage of the others.
Teachers don’t get 3 months off. Nobody has a 12 week summer.
Teachers aren’t paid for 2 months. Let’s get this straight now.
Many teachers have to work another job during the summer. Heck, I started mine last week. I’ll be working 2 jobs until the school year ends.
Let’s get that idea of teachers lazing around out of your head. It isn’t reality.
Anonymous
05/27/2023 21:43
Subject: 3% raise for teachers? What a joke FCPS!
most 20 year olds don’t get 3 months off a year from work!Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My private sector company is also giving 3%.
I’m sure your salaries are much higher to begin with.
My child's teacher makes $80k+
Ok. Unless they are married, 80,000 doesn’t get you much in this area. Salaries should match COL.
Well, $80,000 is really for working only 9 months of the year once you take out all those endless summer and winter vacations. So $80k/9*12 = $106,666 on an annualized basis. Plus pension plus lavish benefits.
Where do these teachers work? I want endless summer and winter vacations!
I work 10 months full of 60 hour weeks, and then I’m furloughed for two months.
See, it's this crappy attitude on the part of teachers that has burned a lot of goodwill with parents and the public. The endless summer vacations are obviously a HUGE benefit of your job, and yet you frame it in the most miserable way possible by calling it furlough.
Also many other jobs require 12 months of work full of 60 hour weeks if not more. The truly unique thing about teachers compared to other professions is their seemingly endless ability to whine and think that only they have it hard.
In addition to VRS, summertime is really the only perk. And for some, summer and breaks are a financial strain/stressor.
How is it a vacation if you’re working another job? I know not all teachers do, but almost all of the teachers in their 20s do, as well as a decent percentage of the others.