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Anonymous wrote:I work in a Title One elementary school in MCPS. Our behaviors are off the charts this year. I honestly don't know how our admin continues to come to work each day. They constantly have kids in their offices. Even our staff development teacher, reading specialist, math coach AND both counselors are constantly with kids displaying behavior issues or eloping class. Admin can't suspend kids for running the halls, even in elementary school. I feel bad for our core team above because they can't do their actual jobs as they basically play security all day. I have some difficult kids but at least I can close my classroom door and ignore the chaos that's unfolding in rooms across the school.
Parents need to wake up and start parenting their kids rather than ignoring them on their phones or trying to be their friend. I applaud all of you who are trying your best to do right by your kids. Raise hell with the county council and board of ed. Your neighborhood school's principal can't do anything to make the changes we need to see.

You all need to work with the parents and let them know what's going on and have parents come in and volunteer and help vs. complaining. This isn't something new. Even before covid, may schools were closed to parents and yet, the teachers and admin complained bitterly about the parents. We cannot help if we don't know what's going on. Kids behave differently so they may be behaving at home and not school so if that's the situation it's on the teachers to communicate. We'd email the teachers and rarely get a response back.

Please point out where I said we were NOT calling parents on a daily basis about their child's behaviors? We do call and we either get sent to voicemail or cussed out and called racist. Trust me, teachers are trying everything under the sun.

Parents who curse out school staff and admin should suffer repercussions. The government, which funds and runs MCPS, needs to start holding people accountable for this stuff.

Repercussions? Like taking away the recess they don’t get? What exactly do you think MCPS can do to parents who aren’t breaking a law?

Documentation on the parent's behavior would be a start. And then don't be afraid to call the police. Parents who come shouting and hollering can and do get charged for disorderly conduct and aggressive encounters with school staff.

It just happened in Florida over a father who got aggressive with a bus aide: https://nypost.com/2023/05/09/florida-dad-attacks-school-worker-after-son-banned-from-riding-from-bus/

Document, call the police, hold the aggressive, violent parents accountable.

Yes, hitting school staff should be reported. Attempting to report missed phone calls and raised voices is a waste of everyone’s time.

Look at the other examples I posted as well. Parents who yelled and cursed also got police called on them.

Read them again— verbal threats. I strongly suspect they were told to leave as well. And the police certainly isn’t going to respond to a complaint about someone yelling over the phone.

Yes, obviously in-person is what I'm referencing for disorderly conduct. But that applies to the poster who said the mom showed up at the school "enraged" and cursing at them cause her daughter was in the ER. That sounds like a disorderly conduct charge to me.

If that’s all she did, then it isn’t disorderly conduct. That’s more than just being “mean.”

Definitely call the police and report back!

Ever sense they removed the SROs it's like MCPD is purposefully neglecting to enforce laws at our schools.

It's like ever since they removed t he SROs your brain cells died.

Nah, I think MCPD is being spiteful to retaliate unfortunately this puts our kids at risk.

It does seem like ever since Elrich got rid of the cushy SRO jobs they started ignoring schools as retaliation. People say the bathrooms at some schools are open air drug marts but the cops do nothing.

yea, cause Elrich and his progressive minions don't want cops to do their job.

It doesn't matter what Elrich wants. MCPD has an obligation to do their job.

That's the bottom line here. MCPD is failing our children.

What I don't get is why people are covering for them. If everyone knows some school bathroom is an open-air drug market like people claim here then MCPD knows this but they choose to ignore it.

Police aren’t allowed to hang out in school bathrooms. Police aren’t allowed to hang out in school hallways. Police aren’t allowed to proactively work within school buildings right now.

See the pattern? Police aren’t allowed.

If you want a more proactive police force, tell the very people who make the rules: the council.

I’m not going to allow anybody to spread lies about MCPD. If you are upset about inaction, then vote out the council and select representatives that support public safety.

Don’t bother perpetuating this “MCPD ignores it nonsense.” The problems within the school system need to be addressed by MCPS and the council. If they decide they will let MCPD act, I’m confident they will.

Didn't know about that but they're required to enforce the law which includes schools.

And the only way they would know about incidents and crimes occuring is if they were at the school but since they're no longer allowed there, someone has to make a phonecall. If that doesn't happen, they won't come.

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Anonymous wrote:I work in a Title One elementary school in MCPS. Our behaviors are off the charts this year. I honestly don't know how our admin continues to come to work each day. They constantly have kids in their offices. Even our staff development teacher, reading specialist, math coach AND both counselors are constantly with kids displaying behavior issues or eloping class. Admin can't suspend kids for running the halls, even in elementary school. I feel bad for our core team above because they can't do their actual jobs as they basically play security all day. I have some difficult kids but at least I can close my classroom door and ignore the chaos that's unfolding in rooms across the school.
Parents need to wake up and start parenting their kids rather than ignoring them on their phones or trying to be their friend. I applaud all of you who are trying your best to do right by your kids. Raise hell with the county council and board of ed. Your neighborhood school's principal can't do anything to make the changes we need to see.

You all need to work with the parents and let them know what's going on and have parents come in and volunteer and help vs. complaining. This isn't something new. Even before covid, may schools were closed to parents and yet, the teachers and admin complained bitterly about the parents. We cannot help if we don't know what's going on. Kids behave differently so they may be behaving at home and not school so if that's the situation it's on the teachers to communicate. We'd email the teachers and rarely get a response back.

Please point out where I said we were NOT calling parents on a daily basis about their child's behaviors? We do call and we either get sent to voicemail or cussed out and called racist. Trust me, teachers are trying everything under the sun.

Parents who curse out school staff and admin should suffer repercussions. The government, which funds and runs MCPS, needs to start holding people accountable for this stuff.

Repercussions? Like taking away the recess they don’t get? What exactly do you think MCPS can do to parents who aren’t breaking a law?

Documentation on the parent's behavior would be a start. And then don't be afraid to call the police. Parents who come shouting and hollering can and do get charged for disorderly conduct and aggressive encounters with school staff.

It just happened in Florida over a father who got aggressive with a bus aide: https://nypost.com/2023/05/09/florida-dad-attacks-school-worker-after-son-banned-from-riding-from-bus/

Document, call the police, hold the aggressive, violent parents accountable.

Yes, hitting school staff should be reported. Attempting to report missed phone calls and raised voices is a waste of everyone’s time.

Look at the other examples I posted as well. Parents who yelled and cursed also got police called on them.

Read them again— verbal threats. I strongly suspect they were told to leave as well. And the police certainly isn’t going to respond to a complaint about someone yelling over the phone.

Yes, obviously in-person is what I'm referencing for disorderly conduct. But that applies to the poster who said the mom showed up at the school "enraged" and cursing at them cause her daughter was in the ER. That sounds like a disorderly conduct charge to me.

If that’s all she did, then it isn’t disorderly conduct. That’s more than just being “mean.”

Definitely call the police and report back!

Ever sense they removed the SROs it's like MCPD is purposefully neglecting to enforce laws at our schools.

It's like ever since they removed t he SROs your brain cells died.

Nah, I think MCPD is being spiteful to retaliate unfortunately this puts our kids at risk.

It does seem like ever since Elrich got rid of the cushy SRO jobs they started ignoring schools as retaliation. People say the bathrooms at some schools are open air drug marts but the cops do nothing.

yea, cause Elrich and his progressive minions don't want cops to do their job.

It doesn't matter what Elrich wants. MCPD has an obligation to do their job.

That's the bottom line here. MCPD is failing our children.

What I don't get is why people are covering for them. If everyone knows some school bathroom is an open-air drug market like people claim here then MCPD knows this but they choose to ignore it.

Police aren’t allowed to hang out in school bathrooms. Police aren’t allowed to hang out in school hallways. Police aren’t allowed to proactively work within school buildings right now.

See the pattern? Police aren’t allowed.

If you want a more proactive police force, tell the very people who make the rules: the council.

I’m not going to allow anybody to spread lies about MCPD. If you are upset about inaction, then vote out the council and select representatives that support public safety.

Don’t bother perpetuating this “MCPD ignores it nonsense.” The problems within the school system need to be addressed by MCPS and the council. If they decide they will let MCPD act, I’m confident they will.

Didn't know about that but they're required to enforce the law which includes schools.

How would you suggest police enforce what’s going on within schools if they can’t have an everyday presence within the building?

How should police catch illegal behavior if they aren’t there to see it?

Shouldn’t MCPS be held responsible if they don’t call the police and report problems?

If you want them to enforce laws: tell that to the council.

They know how to do their jobs. No idea why they choose to not enforce laws at school. Maybe it's like the PP said they're angry over the SRO issue.

RJ isn’t the issue. It’s just being blamed. The real matrix of issues is poor behavior due to bad parenting and the effect of personal devices/always in technology. Combined with those issues and some kids running around without boundaries for two years being behind academically and socially. Combine that with Federal guidelines that make schools system liable for racial differences in suspension rates and the various ways racial differences play the new Maryland state report card for each school. All of this is new in the last five to six years.

I think Covid is responsible for some of the most recent particularly egregious behavior problems. Kids sat at home on screens for a long time and got (even more) addicted to technology and didn’t have the consistency of school/rules/expectations.

I don’t want to turn this into a union or parent or teacher bashing thread, I just wanted to point out that I believe recent horribleness can be tied to the large scale interruption of learning for public school kids.

At the high school level, I think the legalization of weed (and the narrative of adults saying they use weed to help with their own adhd, and the general normalizing of weed use across the board) is driving the growth in the number of students who come to school high every day, or get high in the bathrooms in the day.

Covid + weed legalization + screen addiction = the present sorry state of many MCPS high school students

(Still think MCPS is doing generally ok, still send my kids there, and still think a churchhill-like attitude is right… it’s better than the alternative!)

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Anonymous wrote:I work in a Title One elementary school in MCPS. Our behaviors are off the charts this year. I honestly don't know how our admin continues to come to work each day. They constantly have kids in their offices. Even our staff development teacher, reading specialist, math coach AND both counselors are constantly with kids displaying behavior issues or eloping class. Admin can't suspend kids for running the halls, even in elementary school. I feel bad for our core team above because they can't do their actual jobs as they basically play security all day. I have some difficult kids but at least I can close my classroom door and ignore the chaos that's unfolding in rooms across the school.
Parents need to wake up and start parenting their kids rather than ignoring them on their phones or trying to be their friend. I applaud all of you who are trying your best to do right by your kids. Raise hell with the county council and board of ed. Your neighborhood school's principal can't do anything to make the changes we need to see.

You all need to work with the parents and let them know what's going on and have parents come in and volunteer and help vs. complaining. This isn't something new. Even before covid, may schools were closed to parents and yet, the teachers and admin complained bitterly about the parents. We cannot help if we don't know what's going on. Kids behave differently so they may be behaving at home and not school so if that's the situation it's on the teachers to communicate. We'd email the teachers and rarely get a response back.

Please point out where I said we were NOT calling parents on a daily basis about their child's behaviors? We do call and we either get sent to voicemail or cussed out and called racist. Trust me, teachers are trying everything under the sun.

Parents who curse out school staff and admin should suffer repercussions. The government, which funds and runs MCPS, needs to start holding people accountable for this stuff.

Repercussions? Like taking away the recess they don’t get? What exactly do you think MCPS can do to parents who aren’t breaking a law?

Documentation on the parent's behavior would be a start. And then don't be afraid to call the police. Parents who come shouting and hollering can and do get charged for disorderly conduct and aggressive encounters with school staff.

It just happened in Florida over a father who got aggressive with a bus aide: https://nypost.com/2023/05/09/florida-dad-attacks-school-worker-after-son-banned-from-riding-from-bus/

Document, call the police, hold the aggressive, violent parents accountable.

Yes, hitting school staff should be reported. Attempting to report missed phone calls and raised voices is a waste of everyone’s time.

Look at the other examples I posted as well. Parents who yelled and cursed also got police called on them.

Read them again— verbal threats. I strongly suspect they were told to leave as well. And the police certainly isn’t going to respond to a complaint about someone yelling over the phone.

Yes, obviously in-person is what I'm referencing for disorderly conduct. But that applies to the poster who said the mom showed up at the school "enraged" and cursing at them cause her daughter was in the ER. That sounds like a disorderly conduct charge to me.

If that’s all she did, then it isn’t disorderly conduct. That’s more than just being “mean.”

Definitely call the police and report back!

Ever sense they removed the SROs it's like MCPD is purposefully neglecting to enforce laws at our schools.

It's like ever since they removed t he SROs your brain cells died.

Nah, I think MCPD is being spiteful to retaliate unfortunately this puts our kids at risk.

It does seem like ever since Elrich got rid of the cushy SRO jobs they started ignoring schools as retaliation. People say the bathrooms at some schools are open air drug marts but the cops do nothing.

yea, cause Elrich and his progressive minions don't want cops to do their job.

It doesn't matter what Elrich wants. MCPD has an obligation to do their job.

That's the bottom line here. MCPD is failing our children.

What I don't get is why people are covering for them. If everyone knows some school bathroom is an open-air drug market like people claim here then MCPD knows this but they choose to ignore it.

Police aren’t allowed to hang out in school bathrooms. Police aren’t allowed to hang out in school hallways. Police aren’t allowed to proactively work within school buildings right now.

See the pattern? Police aren’t allowed.

If you want a more proactive police force, tell the very people who make the rules: the council.

I’m not going to allow anybody to spread lies about MCPD. If you are upset about inaction, then vote out the council and select representatives that support public safety.

Don’t bother perpetuating this “MCPD ignores it nonsense.” The problems within the school system need to be addressed by MCPS and the council. If they decide they will let MCPD act, I’m confident they will.

Didn't know about that but they're required to enforce the law which includes schools.

How would you suggest police enforce what’s going on within schools if they can’t have an everyday presence within the building?

How should police catch illegal behavior if they aren’t there to see it?

Shouldn’t MCPS be held responsible if they don’t call the police and report problems?

If you want them to enforce laws: tell that to the council.

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Anonymous wrote:It's not in a steep decline. It hit rock bottom a while ago.

You are very optimistic!

They can make it worse.

Sure, it's a problem if you expect the county to raise your kids, but if you are involved not an issue. In fact, my kids are thriving.

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Anonymous wrote:I work in a Title One elementary school in MCPS. Our behaviors are off the charts this year. I honestly don't know how our admin continues to come to work each day. They constantly have kids in their offices. Even our staff development teacher, reading specialist, math coach AND both counselors are constantly with kids displaying behavior issues or eloping class. Admin can't suspend kids for running the halls, even in elementary school. I feel bad for our core team above because they can't do their actual jobs as they basically play security all day. I have some difficult kids but at least I can close my classroom door and ignore the chaos that's unfolding in rooms across the school.
Parents need to wake up and start parenting their kids rather than ignoring them on their phones or trying to be their friend. I applaud all of you who are trying your best to do right by your kids. Raise hell with the county council and board of ed. Your neighborhood school's principal can't do anything to make the changes we need to see.

You all need to work with the parents and let them know what's going on and have parents come in and volunteer and help vs. complaining. This isn't something new. Even before covid, may schools were closed to parents and yet, the teachers and admin complained bitterly about the parents. We cannot help if we don't know what's going on. Kids behave differently so they may be behaving at home and not school so if that's the situation it's on the teachers to communicate. We'd email the teachers and rarely get a response back.

Please point out where I said we were NOT calling parents on a daily basis about their child's behaviors? We do call and we either get sent to voicemail or cussed out and called racist. Trust me, teachers are trying everything under the sun.

Parents who curse out school staff and admin should suffer repercussions. The government, which funds and runs MCPS, needs to start holding people accountable for this stuff.

Repercussions? Like taking away the recess they don’t get? What exactly do you think MCPS can do to parents who aren’t breaking a law?

Documentation on the parent's behavior would be a start. And then don't be afraid to call the police. Parents who come shouting and hollering can and do get charged for disorderly conduct and aggressive encounters with school staff.

It just happened in Florida over a father who got aggressive with a bus aide: https://nypost.com/2023/05/09/florida-dad-attacks-school-worker-after-son-banned-from-riding-from-bus/

Document, call the police, hold the aggressive, violent parents accountable.

Yes, hitting school staff should be reported. Attempting to report missed phone calls and raised voices is a waste of everyone’s time.

Look at the other examples I posted as well. Parents who yelled and cursed also got police called on them.

Read them again— verbal threats. I strongly suspect they were told to leave as well. And the police certainly isn’t going to respond to a complaint about someone yelling over the phone.

Yes, obviously in-person is what I'm referencing for disorderly conduct. But that applies to the poster who said the mom showed up at the school "enraged" and cursing at them cause her daughter was in the ER. That sounds like a disorderly conduct charge to me.

If that’s all she did, then it isn’t disorderly conduct. That’s more than just being “mean.”

Definitely call the police and report back!

Ever sense they removed the SROs it's like MCPD is purposefully neglecting to enforce laws at our schools.

It's like ever since they removed t he SROs your brain cells died.

Nah, I think MCPD is being spiteful to retaliate unfortunately this puts our kids at risk.

It does seem like ever since Elrich got rid of the cushy SRO jobs they started ignoring schools as retaliation. People say the bathrooms at some schools are open air drug marts but the cops do nothing.

yea, cause Elrich and his progressive minions don't want cops to do their job.

It doesn't matter what Elrich wants. MCPD has an obligation to do their job.

That's the bottom line here. MCPD is failing our children.

What I don't get is why people are covering for them. If everyone knows some school bathroom is an open-air drug market like people claim here then MCPD knows this but they choose to ignore it.

Police aren’t allowed to hang out in school bathrooms. Police aren’t allowed to hang out in school hallways. Police aren’t allowed to proactively work within school buildings right now.

See the pattern? Police aren’t allowed.

If you want a more proactive police force, tell the very people who make the rules: the council.

I’m not going to allow anybody to spread lies about MCPD. If you are upset about inaction, then vote out the council and select representatives that support public safety.

Don’t bother perpetuating this “MCPD ignores it nonsense.” The problems within the school system need to be addressed by MCPS and the council. If they decide they will let MCPD act, I’m confident they will.

Didn't know about that but they're required to enforce the law which includes schools.

Anonymous wrote:It's not in a steep decline. It hit rock bottom a while ago.

You are very optimistic!

They can make it worse.

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Anonymous wrote:I work in a Title One elementary school in MCPS. Our behaviors are off the charts this year. I honestly don't know how our admin continues to come to work each day. They constantly have kids in their offices. Even our staff development teacher, reading specialist, math coach AND both counselors are constantly with kids displaying behavior issues or eloping class. Admin can't suspend kids for running the halls, even in elementary school. I feel bad for our core team above because they can't do their actual jobs as they basically play security all day. I have some difficult kids but at least I can close my classroom door and ignore the chaos that's unfolding in rooms across the school.
Parents need to wake up and start parenting their kids rather than ignoring them on their phones or trying to be their friend. I applaud all of you who are trying your best to do right by your kids. Raise hell with the county council and board of ed. Your neighborhood school's principal can't do anything to make the changes we need to see.

You all need to work with the parents and let them know what's going on and have parents come in and volunteer and help vs. complaining. This isn't something new. Even before covid, may schools were closed to parents and yet, the teachers and admin complained bitterly about the parents. We cannot help if we don't know what's going on. Kids behave differently so they may be behaving at home and not school so if that's the situation it's on the teachers to communicate. We'd email the teachers and rarely get a response back.

Please point out where I said we were NOT calling parents on a daily basis about their child's behaviors? We do call and we either get sent to voicemail or cussed out and called racist. Trust me, teachers are trying everything under the sun.

Parents who curse out school staff and admin should suffer repercussions. The government, which funds and runs MCPS, needs to start holding people accountable for this stuff.

Repercussions? Like taking away the recess they don’t get? What exactly do you think MCPS can do to parents who aren’t breaking a law?

Documentation on the parent's behavior would be a start. And then don't be afraid to call the police. Parents who come shouting and hollering can and do get charged for disorderly conduct and aggressive encounters with school staff.

It just happened in Florida over a father who got aggressive with a bus aide: https://nypost.com/2023/05/09/florida-dad-attacks-school-worker-after-son-banned-from-riding-from-bus/

Document, call the police, hold the aggressive, violent parents accountable.

Yes, hitting school staff should be reported. Attempting to report missed phone calls and raised voices is a waste of everyone’s time.

Look at the other examples I posted as well. Parents who yelled and cursed also got police called on them.

Read them again— verbal threats. I strongly suspect they were told to leave as well. And the police certainly isn’t going to respond to a complaint about someone yelling over the phone.

Yes, obviously in-person is what I'm referencing for disorderly conduct. But that applies to the poster who said the mom showed up at the school "enraged" and cursing at them cause her daughter was in the ER. That sounds like a disorderly conduct charge to me.

If that’s all she did, then it isn’t disorderly conduct. That’s more than just being “mean.”

Definitely call the police and report back!

Ever sense they removed the SROs it's like MCPD is purposefully neglecting to enforce laws at our schools.

It's like ever since they removed t he SROs your brain cells died.

Nah, I think MCPD is being spiteful to retaliate unfortunately this puts our kids at risk.

It does seem like ever since Elrich got rid of the cushy SRO jobs they started ignoring schools as retaliation. People say the bathrooms at some schools are open air drug marts but the cops do nothing.

yea, cause Elrich and his progressive minions don't want cops to do their job.

It doesn't matter what Elrich wants. MCPD has an obligation to do their job.

That's the bottom line here. MCPD is failing our children.

What I don't get is why people are covering for them. If everyone knows some school bathroom is an open-air drug market like people claim here then MCPD knows this but they choose to ignore it.

Police aren’t allowed to hang out in school bathrooms. Police aren’t allowed to hang out in school hallways. Police aren’t allowed to proactively work within school buildings right now.

See the pattern? Police aren’t allowed.

If you want a more proactive police force, tell the very people who make the rules: the council.

I’m not going to allow anybody to spread lies about MCPD. If you are upset about inaction, then vote out the council and select representatives that support public safety.

Don’t bother perpetuating this “MCPD ignores it nonsense.” The problems within the school system need to be addressed by MCPS and the council. If they decide they will let MCPD act, I’m confident they will.

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Anonymous wrote:You get what you vote for. The people whom most of us voted for (I didn't) did the following in an attempt to help poor black and brown kids:
1. Got rid of SROs
2. Instituted Restorative Justice
3. Implemented the 50 percent rule
These things actually made things worse especially for the kids they were trying to help...unless they never wanted to help them in the first place. Teachers and parents with means will just leave, leaving behind schools that actually do need help. And these aren't the W schools.

Those seem like mostly positive changes. Further, all the detentions and suspensions that have been reported here recently mean your narrative is false and misleading.

You've got your head in the sand. Yes, suspensions and detentions are still happening but not nearly as much as they should be. The idea of RJ is to reduce suspension rates which is forcing schools to do everything possible not to suspend kids even when they need to be. If you think all those were positive changes then tell me what you think is causing the increase in fights, disrespectful behavior, lack of discipline in the schools? Why are teachers wanting to leave the system?

On the contrary. You can't say there are no consequences when there are multiple recent threads that address that topic. People are on to this false narrative and know it's BS.

Kids are suspended for atrocious things and are allowed to come back to school in a day or 2 to do it all over again. That's the problem. Even with RJ. There are no real consequences, so just stop with your lies. A kid at my school literally sexually assaulted a 6th grader, he was suspended for 2 days, came back and the victim was forced to do an RJ session with him. Went back to the school and did it again. THere's only 2 things that we can do to fix it. Either the culture of reprehensive behavior stops or the school is allowed to set policies in place that only respectful behavior is allowed at school. Full stop.

Anonymous wrote:7th year MCPS elementary teacher here. My school has been trying to implement RJ the last two years. It is not helping any more than Leader in Me was supposed to help our kids.
I laugh when people say, "My child's teachers don't mention behavior issues so it's not happening at our school". Yea no kidding - do you think we're actually allowed to air the dirty laundry at our schools?

At our school sure once in a while, there's some issue but it's mostly nothing serious. I think people here blow things out of proportion or are intentionally trying to mislead others.

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Anonymous wrote:I work in a Title One elementary school in MCPS. Our behaviors are off the charts this year. I honestly don't know how our admin continues to come to work each day. They constantly have kids in their offices. Even our staff development teacher, reading specialist, math coach AND both counselors are constantly with kids displaying behavior issues or eloping class. Admin can't suspend kids for running the halls, even in elementary school. I feel bad for our core team above because they can't do their actual jobs as they basically play security all day. I have some difficult kids but at least I can close my classroom door and ignore the chaos that's unfolding in rooms across the school.
Parents need to wake up and start parenting their kids rather than ignoring them on their phones or trying to be their friend. I applaud all of you who are trying your best to do right by your kids. Raise hell with the county council and board of ed. Your neighborhood school's principal can't do anything to make the changes we need to see.

You all need to work with the parents and let them know what's going on and have parents come in and volunteer and help vs. complaining. This isn't something new. Even before covid, may schools were closed to parents and yet, the teachers and admin complained bitterly about the parents. We cannot help if we don't know what's going on. Kids behave differently so they may be behaving at home and not school so if that's the situation it's on the teachers to communicate. We'd email the teachers and rarely get a response back.

Please point out where I said we were NOT calling parents on a daily basis about their child's behaviors? We do call and we either get sent to voicemail or cussed out and called racist. Trust me, teachers are trying everything under the sun.

Parents who curse out school staff and admin should suffer repercussions. The government, which funds and runs MCPS, needs to start holding people accountable for this stuff.

Repercussions? Like taking away the recess they don’t get? What exactly do you think MCPS can do to parents who aren’t breaking a law?

Documentation on the parent's behavior would be a start. And then don't be afraid to call the police. Parents who come shouting and hollering can and do get charged for disorderly conduct and aggressive encounters with school staff.

It just happened in Florida over a father who got aggressive with a bus aide: https://nypost.com/2023/05/09/florida-dad-attacks-school-worker-after-son-banned-from-riding-from-bus/

Document, call the police, hold the aggressive, violent parents accountable.

Yes, hitting school staff should be reported. Attempting to report missed phone calls and raised voices is a waste of everyone’s time.

Look at the other examples I posted as well. Parents who yelled and cursed also got police called on them.

Read them again— verbal threats. I strongly suspect they were told to leave as well. And the police certainly isn’t going to respond to a complaint about someone yelling over the phone.

Yes, obviously in-person is what I'm referencing for disorderly conduct. But that applies to the poster who said the mom showed up at the school "enraged" and cursing at them cause her daughter was in the ER. That sounds like a disorderly conduct charge to me.

If that’s all she did, then it isn’t disorderly conduct. That’s more than just being “mean.”

Definitely call the police and report back!

Ever sense they removed the SROs it's like MCPD is purposefully neglecting to enforce laws at our schools.

It's like ever since they removed t he SROs your brain cells died.

Nah, I think MCPD is being spiteful to retaliate unfortunately this puts our kids at risk.

It does seem like ever since Elrich got rid of the cushy SRO jobs they started ignoring schools as retaliation. People say the bathrooms at some schools are open air drug marts but the cops do nothing.

yea, cause Elrich and his progressive minions don't want cops to do their job.

It doesn't matter what Elrich wants. MCPD has an obligation to do their job.

That's the bottom line here. MCPD is failing our children.

What I don't get is why people are covering for them. If everyone knows some school bathroom is an open-air drug market like people claim here then MCPD knows this but they choose to ignore it.

7th year MCPS elementary teacher here. My school has been trying to implement RJ the last two years. It is not helping any more than Leader in Me was supposed to help our kids.
I laugh when people say, "My child's teachers don't mention behavior issues so it's not happening at our school". Yea no kidding - do you think we're actually allowed to air the dirty laundry at our schools?

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Anonymous wrote:I work in a Title One elementary school in MCPS. Our behaviors are off the charts this year. I honestly don't know how our admin continues to come to work each day. They constantly have kids in their offices. Even our staff development teacher, reading specialist, math coach AND both counselors are constantly with kids displaying behavior issues or eloping class. Admin can't suspend kids for running the halls, even in elementary school. I feel bad for our core team above because they can't do their actual jobs as they basically play security all day. I have some difficult kids but at least I can close my classroom door and ignore the chaos that's unfolding in rooms across the school.
Parents need to wake up and start parenting their kids rather than ignoring them on their phones or trying to be their friend. I applaud all of you who are trying your best to do right by your kids. Raise hell with the county council and board of ed. Your neighborhood school's principal can't do anything to make the changes we need to see.

You all need to work with the parents and let them know what's going on and have parents come in and volunteer and help vs. complaining. This isn't something new. Even before covid, may schools were closed to parents and yet, the teachers and admin complained bitterly about the parents. We cannot help if we don't know what's going on. Kids behave differently so they may be behaving at home and not school so if that's the situation it's on the teachers to communicate. We'd email the teachers and rarely get a response back.

Please point out where I said we were NOT calling parents on a daily basis about their child's behaviors? We do call and we either get sent to voicemail or cussed out and called racist. Trust me, teachers are trying everything under the sun.

Parents who curse out school staff and admin should suffer repercussions. The government, which funds and runs MCPS, needs to start holding people accountable for this stuff.

Repercussions? Like taking away the recess they don’t get? What exactly do you think MCPS can do to parents who aren’t breaking a law?

Documentation on the parent's behavior would be a start. And then don't be afraid to call the police. Parents who come shouting and hollering can and do get charged for disorderly conduct and aggressive encounters with school staff.

It just happened in Florida over a father who got aggressive with a bus aide: https://nypost.com/2023/05/09/florida-dad-attacks-school-worker-after-son-banned-from-riding-from-bus/

Document, call the police, hold the aggressive, violent parents accountable.

Yes, hitting school staff should be reported. Attempting to report missed phone calls and raised voices is a waste of everyone’s time.

Look at the other examples I posted as well. Parents who yelled and cursed also got police called on them.

Read them again— verbal threats. I strongly suspect they were told to leave as well. And the police certainly isn’t going to respond to a complaint about someone yelling over the phone.

Yes, obviously in-person is what I'm referencing for disorderly conduct. But that applies to the poster who said the mom showed up at the school "enraged" and cursing at them cause her daughter was in the ER. That sounds like a disorderly conduct charge to me.

If that’s all she did, then it isn’t disorderly conduct. That’s more than just being “mean.”

Definitely call the police and report back!

Ever sense they removed the SROs it's like MCPD is purposefully neglecting to enforce laws at our schools.

It's like ever since they removed t he SROs your brain cells died.

Nah, I think MCPD is being spiteful to retaliate unfortunately this puts our kids at risk.

It does seem like ever since Elrich got rid of the cushy SRO jobs they started ignoring schools as retaliation. People say the bathrooms at some schools are open air drug marts but the cops do nothing.

yea, cause Elrich and his progressive minions don't want cops to do their job.

It doesn't matter what Elrich wants. MCPD has an obligation to do their job.

That's the bottom line here. MCPD is failing our children.

This is such a sad attempt at trolling. Really sad. Wow.

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Anonymous wrote:You get what you vote for. The people whom most of us voted for (I didn't) did the following in an attempt to help poor black and brown kids:
1. Got rid of SROs
2. Instituted Restorative Justice
3. Implemented the 50 percent rule
These things actually made things worse especially for the kids they were trying to help...unless they never wanted to help them in the first place. Teachers and parents with means will just leave, leaving behind schools that actually do need help. And these aren't the W schools.

Those seem like mostly positive changes. Further, all the detentions and suspensions that have been reported here recently mean your narrative is false and misleading.

You've got your head in the sand. Yes, suspensions and detentions are still happening but not nearly as much as they should be. The idea of RJ is to reduce suspension rates which is forcing schools to do everything possible not to suspend kids even when they need to be. If you think all those were positive changes then tell me what you think is causing the increase in fights, disrespectful behavior, lack of discipline in the schools? Why are teachers wanting to leave the system?

On the contrary. You can't say there are no consequences when there are multiple recent threads that address that topic. People are on to this false narrative and know it's BS.