Anonymous
04/11/2023 14:11
Subject: Re:Why don’t advocates for the homeless build spacious housing for them 1-2 hours away from DC?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP here. It would be much more efficient to provide services to the homeless if they’re housed in one place.
They aren't children or prisoners. Many homeless (and adults in general) do not want others telling them what to do and where to go. Many are not looking for services or housing. They prefer to exist day to day.
Police should have an iron-fist approach
This won’t be necessary if it’s actually such a nice and lovely place with space and services.
Which, by the way, Salt Lake City has already tried the method of simply giving housing to the unhoused. It was remarkably successful. Of course it wasn’t a good solution for everyone, but it was massively successful for the large percent of people who truly do just need housing.
It turns out that a lot of the issues that many homeless people have, including mental illness, are triggered or exacerbated by the stress of being homeless. Putting people in homes means they have the stability to work on the other issues they have. And for many people, it solves them, because their main problem is that they don't have a home, meaning they don't have stability, they don't have an address to use when applying for jobs, it's harder to manage medications or medical conditions, etc. And then you have the harder cases, but it would be a lot easier to deal with them if the people who mostly just need housing had housing. But typically that housing isn't hours away from the place where all the jobs and services and people they know are.
That will work for some but there's a significant percentage of the chronically homeless who have serious and debilitating mental health issues and/or substance abuse problems. Those ones need hospitalization and treatment.
Anonymous
04/11/2023 14:09
Subject: Why don’t advocates for the homeless build spacious housing for them 1-2 hours away from DC?
Anonymous wrote:Rural areas don't want your problem people. Rural areas do not have the supports to deal with your reject people.
Many of DC's "problem people" started out in your rural areas. Your sheriffs "deal with" your homeless by giving then one-way bus tickets to DC, San Francisco, or other cities to make them someone else's problem.
Anonymous
04/11/2023 14:06
Subject: Why don’t advocates for the homeless build spacious housing for them 1-2 hours away from DC?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There is plenty of cheap land to be had near the MD/PA border, in southern MD and near Prince William County. Build clean, safe, spacious housing for the homeless there & have them live there only. Bus them to & from DC.
Annnnnd what if they don't want to go?
Put all the social services for the homeless there as well. Nothing here for them in DC. It's too damn expensive in DC anyhow. Especially for underpaid social workers trying to find someplace to live in DC.
Anonymous
04/11/2023 13:56
Subject: Why don’t advocates for the homeless build spacious housing for them 1-2 hours away from DC?
Some municipalities are building tiny home communities for the homeless. https://www.streetsensemedia.org/article/tiny-homes-eden-village/#.ZDWfLXbMLEY
Anonymous
04/11/2023 13:54
Subject: Why don’t advocates for the homeless build spacious housing for them 1-2 hours away from DC?
How about we just start taxing billionaires and create social safety nets within society? Stop letting corporations set the culture and the pace of society, damn everyone who can't keep up?
Things like health care and UBI being included as entitlements from the gov't could drastically change what poverty looks like in the US, and hopefully eliminate it.
Instead we have the Do Nothing Party that is more concerned about drag queens than literally ANY OTHER policy issue.
Things like health care and UBI being included as entitlements from the gov't could drastically change what poverty looks like in the US, and hopefully eliminate it.
Instead we have the Do Nothing Party that is more concerned about drag queens than literally ANY OTHER policy issue.
Anonymous
04/11/2023 13:53
Subject: Why don’t advocates for the homeless build spacious housing for them 1-2 hours away from DC?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Rural areas don't want your problem people. Rural areas do not have the supports to deal with your reject people.
Rural areas do not have the supports to deal with their own problems.
Even the poorest rural area is less violent than the poorer urban one.
No, in the US, rural areas generally rate quite badly on measures of well-being. More likely to die of heart disease, cancer, lung diseases, and stroke. Higher rates of obesity and diabetes. Greater risk of fatal car crashes, drug overdoses, suicide. Higher poverty rates, higher child poverty rates, higher area persistence of poverty. More substandard housing, higher rates of cost-burdened renters. Higher gun homicide rates. Etc. etc. etc.
Anonymous
04/11/2023 13:41
Subject: Why don’t advocates for the homeless build spacious housing for them 1-2 hours away from DC?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Rural areas don't want your problem people. Rural areas do not have the supports to deal with your reject people.
Rural areas do not have the supports to deal with their own problems.
Even the poorest rural area is less violent than the poorer urban one.
Anonymous
04/11/2023 13:40
Subject: Why don’t advocates for the homeless build spacious housing for them 1-2 hours away from DC?
Anonymous wrote:Rural areas don't want your problem people. Rural areas do not have the supports to deal with your reject people.
Rural areas do not have the supports to deal with their own problems.
Anonymous
04/11/2023 13:24
Subject: Why don’t advocates for the homeless build spacious housing for them 1-2 hours away from DC?
Rural areas don't want your problem people. Rural areas do not have the supports to deal with your reject people.
Anonymous
04/11/2023 13:19
Subject: Why don’t advocates for the homeless build spacious housing for them 1-2 hours away from DC?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There is plenty of cheap land to be had near the MD/PA border, in southern MD and near Prince William County. Build clean, safe, spacious housing for the homeless there & have them live there only. Bus them to & from DC.
Yeah no we don’t want DCs homeless population. We are not the solution to a problem you created.
You kind of are. There is a reason that people call PG the 9th ward
PG wasn’t where OP was suggesting these people be sent. Many of us moved to exurbs because we didn’t enjoy the vibrance of DC and it’s close in suburbs and don’t agree that the mentally ill homeless should have the right to sh!t and piss anywhere they choose in public and make encampments in any available green space. We aren’t woke and so we have retreated chastened to the exurbs. Don’t send the problem to us because let’s be real our response is going to be jail.
That's harder than you think.
https://nlihc.org/resource/supreme-court-upholds-ruling-homeless-people-cannot-be-criminally-punished-sleeping
The Supreme Court declined to review the ruling, so it is binding on the 9th Circuit only. I’m pretty sure the judges in the VA exurbs aren’t concerned with that ruling.
Anonymous
04/11/2023 13:14
Subject: Why don’t advocates for the homeless build spacious housing for them 1-2 hours away from DC?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There is plenty of cheap land to be had near the MD/PA border, in southern MD and near Prince William County. Build clean, safe, spacious housing for the homeless there & have them live there only. Bus them to & from DC.
Yeah no we don’t want DCs homeless population. We are not the solution to a problem you created.
You kind of are. There is a reason that people call PG the 9th ward
PG wasn’t where OP was suggesting these people be sent. Many of us moved to exurbs because we didn’t enjoy the vibrance of DC and it’s close in suburbs and don’t agree that the mentally ill homeless should have the right to sh!t and piss anywhere they choose in public and make encampments in any available green space. We aren’t woke and so we have retreated chastened to the exurbs. Don’t send the problem to us because let’s be real our response is going to be jail.
LOL, no, you will just execute them.
We don’t own guns but I have no doubt that if a cracked out and/or mentally ill homeless person accosted someone out here there is a non-zero chance it would end in some type of shooting.
Anonymous
04/11/2023 13:11
Subject: Why don’t advocates for the homeless build spacious housing for them 1-2 hours away from DC?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There is plenty of cheap land to be had near the MD/PA border, in southern MD and near Prince William County. Build clean, safe, spacious housing for the homeless there & have them live there only. Bus them to & from DC.
Yeah no we don’t want DCs homeless population. We are not the solution to a problem you created.
You kind of are. There is a reason that people call PG the 9th ward
PG wasn’t where OP was suggesting these people be sent. Many of us moved to exurbs because we didn’t enjoy the vibrance of DC and it’s close in suburbs and don’t agree that the mentally ill homeless should have the right to sh!t and piss anywhere they choose in public and make encampments in any available green space. We aren’t woke and so we have retreated chastened to the exurbs. Don’t send the problem to us because let’s be real our response is going to be jail.
We’re not talking about Ashburn or Middleburg. We’re talking about some open field along I-81.
Anonymous
04/11/2023 13:10
Subject: Why don’t advocates for the homeless build spacious housing for them 1-2 hours away from DC?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There is plenty of cheap land to be had near the MD/PA border, in southern MD and near Prince William County. Build clean, safe, spacious housing for the homeless there & have them live there only. Bus them to & from DC.
Yeah no we don’t want DCs homeless population. We are not the solution to a problem you created.
You kind of are. There is a reason that people call PG the 9th ward
PG wasn’t where OP was suggesting these people be sent. Many of us moved to exurbs because we didn’t enjoy the vibrance of DC and it’s close in suburbs and don’t agree that the mentally ill homeless should have the right to sh!t and piss anywhere they choose in public and make encampments in any available green space. We aren’t woke and so we have retreated chastened to the exurbs. Don’t send the problem to us because let’s be real our response is going to be jail.
LOL, no, you will just execute them.
Anonymous
04/11/2023 13:10
Subject: Why don’t advocates for the homeless build spacious housing for them 1-2 hours away from DC?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There is plenty of cheap land to be had near the MD/PA border, in southern MD and near Prince William County. Build clean, safe, spacious housing for the homeless there & have them live there only. Bus them to & from DC.
Yeah no we don’t want DCs homeless population. We are not the solution to a problem you created.
You kind of are. There is a reason that people call PG the 9th ward
PG wasn’t where OP was suggesting these people be sent. Many of us moved to exurbs because we didn’t enjoy the vibrance of DC and it’s close in suburbs and don’t agree that the mentally ill homeless should have the right to sh!t and piss anywhere they choose in public and make encampments in any available green space. We aren’t woke and so we have retreated chastened to the exurbs. Don’t send the problem to us because let’s be real our response is going to be jail.
That's harder than you think.
https://nlihc.org/resource/supreme-court-upholds-ruling-homeless-people-cannot-be-criminally-punished-sleeping
Anonymous
04/11/2023 13:09
Subject: Why don’t advocates for the homeless build spacious housing for them 1-2 hours away from DC?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Like reservations?
Think of them more like resorts.
Secured resorts.