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Anonymous wrote:I'm just not seeing a huge difference between privates and between privates and the wealthiest/magnet/application publics.

If you see the difference, can you please explain it to me?

The difference is pretty huge when you adjust for the class sizes. Whitman has 450+ students per class and most top privates have 80-120. So take whatever measure you want and see whether Whitman or other similarly sized wealthy public’s are doing 4x better. Not even close.

Yeah…that is really weak analysis. Considering privates are curating their class vs taking the first 120 that walk in the door you can’t say Whitman should somehow have 4X the admits. Even comparing the top 120 at Whitman vs a private isn’t exactly fair, but at least somewhat comparable.

Lmao what?? There’s no test by which private schools could prove their value to you, clearly.

Not lmao. Np here.
Pp you don’t seem to understand that the point is a child who would get into a selective private school will fair just as well at a Whitman-like public as they will be in the top part of the class and the College acceptances for the top part of the class of any dmv hs is similar to overall selective private outcomes. This is obvious now.

It’s actually not. But you’ll then claim that the reason privates do better is because of the greater amount of hooked kids.

A more apt comparison is between say Sidwell and TJ...where both are able to curate their classes.

So, let's look at the stats from Polarislist that look at admits from those two schools to Harvard, Princeton and MIT from 2018-2020.

Sidwell...120 kids in typical graduating class...sent 9 kids to those schools
TJ...450 kids in typical graduating class (so factor of 3.75x)...sent 57

So, TJ sent 6.33x more kids to those schools compared to Sidwell, yet class size is only 3.75x bigger

What other weak, lazy analysis will you come back with now?

You picked the one outlier that's regarded as the best public high school in the country to make your point that all local publics do better or as well as top privates...who is the one using lazy, weak analysis?

Where is anything approaching analysis on your part? I picked it because it is one of the only local DMV publics that is able to curate the entire school. Blair also sends actually 25 kids to those schools vs Sidwell's 9...but you will say "well golly gee, Blair has 750 students in each class...so of course they do"...even though the Blair magnet graduating class is only 100 kids and nearly all of those admits are coming from that group.

The MIT piece completely throws these stats. Very few if any kids from Sidwell apply. It's just not their lane.
My son is at STA and I don't think they've had an MIT matriculant in years but they'll send a dozen yearly to Chicago and 20 to the Ivies.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm just not seeing a huge difference between privates and between privates and the wealthiest/magnet/application publics.

If you see the difference, can you please explain it to me?

The difference is pretty huge when you adjust for the class sizes. Whitman has 450+ students per class and most top privates have 80-120. So take whatever measure you want and see whether Whitman or other similarly sized wealthy public’s are doing 4x better. Not even close.

Yeah…that is really weak analysis. Considering privates are curating their class vs taking the first 120 that walk in the door you can’t say Whitman should somehow have 4X the admits. Even comparing the top 120 at Whitman vs a private isn’t exactly fair, but at least somewhat comparable.

Lmao what?? There’s no test by which private schools could prove their value to you, clearly.

Not lmao. Np here.
Pp you don’t seem to understand that the point is a child who would get into a selective private school will fair just as well at a Whitman-like public as they will be in the top part of the class and the College acceptances for the top part of the class of any dmv hs is similar to overall selective private outcomes. This is obvious now.

It’s actually not. But you’ll then claim that the reason privates do better is because of the greater amount of hooked kids.

A more apt comparison is between say Sidwell and TJ...where both are able to curate their classes.

So, let's look at the stats from Polarislist that look at admits from those two schools to Harvard, Princeton and MIT from 2018-2020.

Sidwell...120 kids in typical graduating class...sent 9 kids to those schools
TJ...450 kids in typical graduating class (so factor of 3.75x)...sent 57

So, TJ sent 6.33x more kids to those schools compared to Sidwell, yet class size is only 3.75x bigger

What other weak, lazy analysis will you come back with now?

You picked the one outlier that's regarded as the best public high school in the country to make your point that all local publics do better or as well as top privates...who is the one using lazy, weak analysis?

Where is anything approaching analysis on your part? I picked it because it is one of the only local DMV publics that is able to curate the entire school. Blair also sends actually 25 kids to those schools vs Sidwell's 9...but you will say "well golly gee, Blair has 750 students in each class...so of course they do"...even though the Blair magnet graduating class is only 100 kids and nearly all of those admits are coming from that group.

The MIT piece completely throws these stats. Very few if any kids from Sidwell apply. It's just not their lane.
My son is at STA and I don't think they've had an MIT matriculant in years but they'll send a dozen yearly to Chicago and 20 to the Ivies.

But why not? I'm in NYC and was looking at some of the private school pages for schools in my area and many of the top privates have some going to MIT. Why not the top private school in DC? What's the difference?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm just not seeing a huge difference between privates and between privates and the wealthiest/magnet/application publics.

If you see the difference, can you please explain it to me?

The difference is pretty huge when you adjust for the class sizes. Whitman has 450+ students per class and most top privates have 80-120. So take whatever measure you want and see whether Whitman or other similarly sized wealthy public’s are doing 4x better. Not even close.

Yeah…that is really weak analysis. Considering privates are curating their class vs taking the first 120 that walk in the door you can’t say Whitman should somehow have 4X the admits. Even comparing the top 120 at Whitman vs a private isn’t exactly fair, but at least somewhat comparable.

Lmao what?? There’s no test by which private schools could prove their value to you, clearly.

Not lmao. Np here.
Pp you don’t seem to understand that the point is a child who would get into a selective private school will fair just as well at a Whitman-like public as they will be in the top part of the class and the College acceptances for the top part of the class of any dmv hs is similar to overall selective private outcomes. This is obvious now.

It’s actually not. But you’ll then claim that the reason privates do better is because of the greater amount of hooked kids.

A more apt comparison is between say Sidwell and TJ...where both are able to curate their classes.

So, let's look at the stats from Polarislist that look at admits from those two schools to Harvard, Princeton and MIT from 2018-2020.

Sidwell...120 kids in typical graduating class...sent 9 kids to those schools
TJ...450 kids in typical graduating class (so factor of 3.75x)...sent 57

So, TJ sent 6.33x more kids to those schools compared to Sidwell, yet class size is only 3.75x bigger

What other weak, lazy analysis will you come back with now?

You picked the one outlier that's regarded as the best public high school in the country to make your point that all local publics do better or as well as top privates...who is the one using lazy, weak analysis?

Where is anything approaching analysis on your part? I picked it because it is one of the only local DMV publics that is able to curate the entire school. Blair also sends actually 25 kids to those schools vs Sidwell's 9...but you will say "well golly gee, Blair has 750 students in each class...so of course they do"...even though the Blair magnet graduating class is only 100 kids and nearly all of those admits are coming from that group.

The MIT piece completely throws these stats. Very few if any kids from Sidwell apply. It's just not their lane.
My son is at STA and I don't think they've had an MIT matriculant in years but they'll send a dozen yearly to Chicago and 20 to the Ivies.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm just not seeing a huge difference between privates and between privates and the wealthiest/magnet/application publics.

If you see the difference, can you please explain it to me?

The difference is pretty huge when you adjust for the class sizes. Whitman has 450+ students per class and most top privates have 80-120. So take whatever measure you want and see whether Whitman or other similarly sized wealthy public’s are doing 4x better. Not even close.

Yeah…that is really weak analysis. Considering privates are curating their class vs taking the first 120 that walk in the door you can’t say Whitman should somehow have 4X the admits. Even comparing the top 120 at Whitman vs a private isn’t exactly fair, but at least somewhat comparable.

Lmao what?? There’s no test by which private schools could prove their value to you, clearly.

Not lmao. Np here.
Pp you don’t seem to understand that the point is a child who would get into a selective private school will fair just as well at a Whitman-like public as they will be in the top part of the class and the College acceptances for the top part of the class of any dmv hs is similar to overall selective private outcomes. This is obvious now.

It’s actually not. But you’ll then claim that the reason privates do better is because of the greater amount of hooked kids.

A more apt comparison is between say Sidwell and TJ...where both are able to curate their classes.

So, let's look at the stats from Polarislist that look at admits from those two schools to Harvard, Princeton and MIT from 2018-2020.

Sidwell...120 kids in typical graduating class...sent 9 kids to those schools
TJ...450 kids in typical graduating class (so factor of 3.75x)...sent 57

So, TJ sent 6.33x more kids to those schools compared to Sidwell, yet class size is only 3.75x bigger

What other weak, lazy analysis will you come back with now?

You picked the one outlier that's regarded as the best public high school in the country to make your point that all local publics do better or as well as top privates...who is the one using lazy, weak analysis?

Where is anything approaching analysis on your part? I picked it because it is one of the only local DMV publics that is able to curate the entire school. Blair also sends actually 25 kids to those schools vs Sidwell's 9...but you will say "well golly gee, Blair has 750 students in each class...so of course they do"...even though the Blair magnet graduating class is only 100 kids and nearly all of those admits are coming from that group.

The MIT piece completely throws these stats. Very few if any kids from Sidwell apply. It's just not their lane.
My son is at STA and I don't think they've had an MIT matriculant in years but they'll send a dozen yearly to Chicago and 20 to the Ivies.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm just not seeing a huge difference between privates and between privates and the wealthiest/magnet/application publics.

If you see the difference, can you please explain it to me?

The difference is pretty huge when you adjust for the class sizes. Whitman has 450+ students per class and most top privates have 80-120. So take whatever measure you want and see whether Whitman or other similarly sized wealthy public’s are doing 4x better. Not even close.

Yeah…that is really weak analysis. Considering privates are curating their class vs taking the first 120 that walk in the door you can’t say Whitman should somehow have 4X the admits. Even comparing the top 120 at Whitman vs a private isn’t exactly fair, but at least somewhat comparable.

Lmao what?? There’s no test by which private schools could prove their value to you, clearly.

Not lmao. Np here.
Pp you don’t seem to understand that the point is a child who would get into a selective private school will fair just as well at a Whitman-like public as they will be in the top part of the class and the College acceptances for the top part of the class of any dmv hs is similar to overall selective private outcomes. This is obvious now.

It’s actually not. But you’ll then claim that the reason privates do better is because of the greater amount of hooked kids.

A more apt comparison is between say Sidwell and TJ...where both are able to curate their classes.

So, let's look at the stats from Polarislist that look at admits from those two schools to Harvard, Princeton and MIT from 2018-2020.

Sidwell...120 kids in typical graduating class...sent 9 kids to those schools
TJ...450 kids in typical graduating class (so factor of 3.75x)...sent 57

So, TJ sent 6.33x more kids to those schools compared to Sidwell, yet class size is only 3.75x bigger

What other weak, lazy analysis will you come back with now?

You picked the one outlier that's regarded as the best public high school in the country to make your point that all local publics do better or as well as top privates...who is the one using lazy, weak analysis?

Where is anything approaching analysis on your part? I picked it because it is one of the only local DMV publics that is able to curate the entire school. Blair also sends actually 25 kids to those schools vs Sidwell's 9...but you will say "well golly gee, Blair has 750 students in each class...so of course they do"...even though the Blair magnet graduating class is only 100 kids and nearly all of those admits are coming from that group.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm just not seeing a huge difference between privates and between privates and the wealthiest/magnet/application publics.

If you see the difference, can you please explain it to me?

The difference is pretty huge when you adjust for the class sizes. Whitman has 450+ students per class and most top privates have 80-120. So take whatever measure you want and see whether Whitman or other similarly sized wealthy public’s are doing 4x better. Not even close.

Yeah…that is really weak analysis. Considering privates are curating their class vs taking the first 120 that walk in the door you can’t say Whitman should somehow have 4X the admits. Even comparing the top 120 at Whitman vs a private isn’t exactly fair, but at least somewhat comparable.

Lmao what?? There’s no test by which private schools could prove their value to you, clearly.

Not lmao. Np here.
Pp you don’t seem to understand that the point is a child who would get into a selective private school will fair just as well at a Whitman-like public as they will be in the top part of the class and the College acceptances for the top part of the class of any dmv hs is similar to overall selective private outcomes. This is obvious now.

It’s actually not. But you’ll then claim that the reason privates do better is because of the greater amount of hooked kids.

A more apt comparison is between say Sidwell and TJ...where both are able to curate their classes.

So, let's look at the stats from Polarislist that look at admits from those two schools to Harvard, Princeton and MIT from 2018-2020.

Sidwell...120 kids in typical graduating class...sent 9 kids to those schools
TJ...450 kids in typical graduating class (so factor of 3.75x)...sent 57

So, TJ sent 6.33x more kids to those schools compared to Sidwell, yet class size is only 3.75x bigger

What other weak, lazy analysis will you come back with now?

You picked the one outlier that's regarded as the best public high school in the country to make your point that all local publics do better or as well as top privates...who is the one using lazy, weak analysis?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm just not seeing a huge difference between privates and between privates and the wealthiest/magnet/application publics.

If you see the difference, can you please explain it to me?

The difference is pretty huge when you adjust for the class sizes. Whitman has 450+ students per class and most top privates have 80-120. So take whatever measure you want and see whether Whitman or other similarly sized wealthy public’s are doing 4x better. Not even close.

Yeah…that is really weak analysis. Considering privates are curating their class vs taking the first 120 that walk in the door you can’t say Whitman should somehow have 4X the admits. Even comparing the top 120 at Whitman vs a private isn’t exactly fair, but at least somewhat comparable.

Lmao what?? There’s no test by which private schools could prove their value to you, clearly.

Not lmao. Np here.
Pp you don’t seem to understand that the point is a child who would get into a selective private school will fair just as well at a Whitman-like public as they will be in the top part of the class and the College acceptances for the top part of the class of any dmv hs is similar to overall selective private outcomes. This is obvious now.

It’s actually not. But you’ll then claim that the reason privates do better is because of the greater amount of hooked kids.

A more apt comparison is between say Sidwell and TJ...where both are able to curate their classes.

So, let's look at the stats from Polarislist that look at admits from those two schools to Harvard, Princeton and MIT from 2018-2020.

Sidwell...120 kids in typical graduating class...sent 9 kids to those schools
TJ...450 kids in typical graduating class (so factor of 3.75x)...sent 57

So, TJ sent 6.33x more kids to those schools compared to Sidwell, yet class size is only 3.75x bigger

What other weak, lazy analysis will you come back with now?

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Anonymous wrote:Here’s Field

https://instagram.com/fieldgrads.2023

I’m impressed!

The most impressive thing here is that NCS and STA don’t have pages. Good for them.

Why? What are they hiding?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm just not seeing a huge difference between privates and between privates and the wealthiest/magnet/application publics.

If you see the difference, can you please explain it to me?

The difference is pretty huge when you adjust for the class sizes. Whitman has 450+ students per class and most top privates have 80-120. So take whatever measure you want and see whether Whitman or other similarly sized wealthy public’s are doing 4x better. Not even close.

Yeah…that is really weak analysis. Considering privates are curating their class vs taking the first 120 that walk in the door you can’t say Whitman should somehow have 4X the admits. Even comparing the top 120 at Whitman vs a private isn’t exactly fair, but at least somewhat comparable.

Lmao what?? There’s no test by which private schools could prove their value to you, clearly.

Not lmao. Np here.
Pp you don’t seem to understand that the point is a child who would get into a selective private school will fair just as well at a Whitman-like public as they will be in the top part of the class and the College acceptances for the top part of the class of any dmv hs is similar to overall selective private outcomes. This is obvious now.

It’s actually not. But you’ll then claim that the reason privates do better is because of the greater amount of hooked kids.

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Anonymous wrote:Again, the level of effort is what makes it stalkery. Not whether the information is publicly available.

And there is a difference between (a) public records that are generated automatically for everyone vs. (b) a special page that requires proactive effort to share your announcement.

If you have basic working knowledge of social media, it requires minimal effort to find these pages. Again, it’s the modern version of reading it in your local paper. Students are very obviously posting it for public consumption. Enough with the pearl clutching over this!

It takes effort to find these pages because you're not part of the school community audience and the IG handle isn't intended to be shared with you. So merely taking the effort to "sleuth" for it, like doing Google background checks, is just plain creepy.

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Anonymous wrote:Again, the level of effort is what makes it stalkery. Not whether the information is publicly available.

And there is a difference between (a) public records that are generated automatically for everyone vs. (b) a special page that requires proactive effort to share your announcement.

If you have basic working knowledge of social media, it requires minimal effort to find these pages. Again, it’s the modern version of reading it in your local paper. Students are very obviously posting it for public consumption. Enough with the pearl clutching over this!

It takes effort to find these pages because you're not part of the school community audience and the IG handle isn't intended to be shared with you. So merely taking the effort to "sleuth" for it, like doing Google background checks, is just plain creepy.

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Anonymous wrote:This might be a wildly debated/unpopular view, but I think you need to consider that these instagram accounts show the school the child chose to go to. That is not always the most prestigious one they were accepted to. I went to a highly sought after boarding school, and the school I ended up going to was my choice for a variety of factors that didn't directly relate to placement. I factored in where I got more grants, the city where I wanted to live, and what I planned to study while there.

I would also argue, and this is from the slant of an UM, my time in prep school prepared me more for the workforce than my college degree. I sailed through college compared to my peers, spent a year studying in South Africa and taking a light load (because I'd been able to test out with AP scores), etc. I now have an amazing job and work right alongside people who went to Harvard and Yale with considerably less college debt because of the choices I made. So for me, my decision to send my kids to independent schools was to mirror the early investment my parents made in me. And I would argue, it paid off.

No one asked you to justify why you are sending your kids to private school.
Maybe see a therapist!

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Anonymous wrote:Does STA not have one?

STA never posts.

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone post the list for Gonzaga?

Here you go https://www.instagram.com/gonzagaseniors2023/