Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is my favorite episode so far this season!
A question. I hope the Dutch guy comes back in Rebecca's life. But did he imply at the end that he and Rebecca did do something? I didn't get that from the scene where he removed her feet from his lap.
My read was that he was saying that they did something more serious than sleeping together. Like they made a real connection and were emotionally vulnerable with each other.
+1
When she asked, "Did we...?" implying "did we sleep together," he says no but then when she leaves, he says "yes we did" - meaning "yes we did fall in love." I think it was clear there was no sex involved - he drew the curtain to his bedroom after covering her up and respectfully leaving her to sleep.
However, I did think it was incredibly unrealistic that she would get on a strange man's boat, shower, change, have dinner, etc. I mean, seriously?? It was a lovely story, but sadly unrealistic. I do wonder why they looked so sad in the morning - couldn't they have simply exchanged contact info to see each other again? Maybe it was meant to just be a one-off, lovely romantic night. But I hope there is more to it than that.
DP
I just typed something similar in the other Ted Lasso thread. Totally unrealistic. And they never asked their names during the whole evening?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think this season has been pretty good. I did not love the zava line so glad he’s gone, and I really dislike the Nate story as well as the hostess. He’s just never been a compelling character to me and I know they are setting him up for a redemption but I just would never trust him — the weird spitting to turn himself into a tough guy. I have a particular bias against those jerks who think they are nice guys and blame the world for not recognizing that they are really nice guys or appreciating them—they are the ones that always say “nice guys finish last” when the truth is that they just aren’t very nice, and are confusing low self esteem for niceness. That’s Nate.
I’m also not loving the Jack/keeley thing — it seems random and also really unprofessional of both of them, but particularly for keeley who can’t really afford to piss off her one investor. I thought she was smarter than that. I love the shandy scenes though — truly hysterical.
Jamie is also having a great character arc and one which seems true to who he has always been.
Re: Nate, I respectfully disagree. I think he was *always* nice but completely invisible to all until Ted showed up and made him feel like a real person. Then, when Ted brings Roy on as coach, Nate feels betrayed and hurt and does a complete 180, turning spiteful and mean. But I think deep down, he recognizes that this is not who he really is or wants to be and is going to make a turnaround somehow. I loved his character at the beginning, before he turned into this jerk, and I hope he redeems himself. Maybe the hostess at the restaurant will help him keep it real.
I predict West Ham will lose to Richmond in a playoff, and Rebecca's ex husband (Rupert?) will fire Nate and go ballistic on him, while Ted is kind, and that helps Nate find his way.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is my favorite episode so far this season!
A question. I hope the Dutch guy comes back in Rebecca's life. But did he imply at the end that he and Rebecca did do something? I didn't get that from the scene where he removed her feet from his lap.
My read was that he was saying that they did something more serious than sleeping together. Like they made a real connection and were emotionally vulnerable with each other.
+1
When she asked, "Did we...?" implying "did we sleep together," he says no but then when she leaves, he says "yes we did" - meaning "yes we did fall in love." I think it was clear there was no sex involved - he drew the curtain to his bedroom after covering her up and respectfully leaving her to sleep.
However, I did think it was incredibly unrealistic that she would get on a strange man's boat, shower, change, have dinner, etc. I mean, seriously?? It was a lovely story, but sadly unrealistic. I do wonder why they looked so sad in the morning - couldn't they have simply exchanged contact info to see each other again? Maybe it was meant to just be a one-off, lovely romantic night. But I hope there is more to it than that.
DP
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think this season has been pretty good. I did not love the zava line so glad he’s gone, and I really dislike the Nate story as well as the hostess. He’s just never been a compelling character to me and I know they are setting him up for a redemption but I just would never trust him — the weird spitting to turn himself into a tough guy. I have a particular bias against those jerks who think they are nice guys and blame the world for not recognizing that they are really nice guys or appreciating them—they are the ones that always say “nice guys finish last” when the truth is that they just aren’t very nice, and are confusing low self esteem for niceness. That’s Nate.
I’m also not loving the Jack/keeley thing — it seems random and also really unprofessional of both of them, but particularly for keeley who can’t really afford to piss off her one investor. I thought she was smarter than that. I love the shandy scenes though — truly hysterical.
Jamie is also having a great character arc and one which seems true to who he has always been.
Re: Nate, I respectfully disagree. I think he was *always* nice but completely invisible to all until Ted showed up and made him feel like a real person. Then, when Ted brings Roy on as coach, Nate feels betrayed and hurt and does a complete 180, turning spiteful and mean. But I think deep down, he recognizes that this is not who he really is or wants to be and is going to make a turnaround somehow. I loved his character at the beginning, before he turned into this jerk, and I hope he redeems himself. Maybe the hostess at the restaurant will help him keep it real.
I predict West Ham will lose to Richmond in a playoff, and Rebecca's ex husband (Rupert?) will fire Nate and go ballistic on him, while Ted is kind, and that helps Nate find his way.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is my favorite episode so far this season!
A question. I hope the Dutch guy comes back in Rebecca's life. But did he imply at the end that he and Rebecca did do something? I didn't get that from the scene where he removed her feet from his lap.
My read was that he was saying that they did something more serious than sleeping together. Like they made a real connection and were emotionally vulnerable with each other.
+1
When she asked, "Did we...?" implying "did we sleep together," he says no but then when she leaves, he says "yes we did" - meaning "yes we did fall in love." I think it was clear there was no sex involved - he drew the curtain to his bedroom after covering her up and respectfully leaving her to sleep.
However, I did think it was incredibly unrealistic that she would get on a strange man's boat, shower, change, have dinner, etc. I mean, seriously?? It was a lovely story, but sadly unrealistic. I do wonder why they looked so sad in the morning - couldn't they have simply exchanged contact info to see each other again? Maybe it was meant to just be a one-off, lovely romantic night. But I hope there is more to it than that.
DP
Anonymous wrote:I LOVED this episode.
Also I love that Ted thought he was tripping, went to that weird American restaurant - and actually figured out some soccer strategy. I feel like that is such a growth moment for him!
That Dutch man on the houseboat was hot. That whole thing was like a dream.
Jamie and Roy - I love their all night adventure! The bikes!!
I'm sad Danny didn't get to see a tulip. But love that the team ended up bonding in such a fun way.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think this season has been pretty good. I did not love the zava line so glad he’s gone, and I really dislike the Nate story as well as the hostess. He’s just never been a compelling character to me and I know they are setting him up for a redemption but I just would never trust him — the weird spitting to turn himself into a tough guy. I have a particular bias against those jerks who think they are nice guys and blame the world for not recognizing that they are really nice guys or appreciating them—they are the ones that always say “nice guys finish last” when the truth is that they just aren’t very nice, and are confusing low self esteem for niceness. That’s Nate.
I’m also not loving the Jack/keeley thing — it seems random and also really unprofessional of both of them, but particularly for keeley who can’t really afford to piss off her one investor. I thought she was smarter than that. I love the shandy scenes though — truly hysterical.
Jamie is also having a great character arc and one which seems true to who he has always been.
I think you are misinterpreting Nate’s spitting. I don’t think it’s about being a tough guy. I think it is about feeling worthless. The first time we see him do it, he does it to his own reflection.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think this season has been pretty good. I did not love the zava line so glad he’s gone, and I really dislike the Nate story as well as the hostess. He’s just never been a compelling character to me and I know they are setting him up for a redemption but I just would never trust him — the weird spitting to turn himself into a tough guy. I have a particular bias against those jerks who think they are nice guys and blame the world for not recognizing that they are really nice guys or appreciating them—they are the ones that always say “nice guys finish last” when the truth is that they just aren’t very nice, and are confusing low self esteem for niceness. That’s Nate.
I’m also not loving the Jack/keeley thing — it seems random and also really unprofessional of both of them, but particularly for keeley who can’t really afford to piss off her one investor. I thought she was smarter than that. I love the shandy scenes though — truly hysterical.
Jamie is also having a great character arc and one which seems true to who he has always been.
Re: Nate, I respectfully disagree. I think he was *always* nice but completely invisible to all until Ted showed up and made him feel like a real person. Then, when Ted brings Roy on as coach, Nate feels betrayed and hurt and does a complete 180, turning spiteful and mean. But I think deep down, he recognizes that this is not who he really is or wants to be and is going to make a turnaround somehow. I loved his character at the beginning, before he turned into this jerk, and I hope he redeems himself. Maybe the hostess at the restaurant will help him keep it real.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is my favorite episode so far this season!
A question. I hope the Dutch guy comes back in Rebecca's life. But did he imply at the end that he and Rebecca did do something? I didn't get that from the scene where he removed her feet from his lap.
My read was that he was saying that they did something more serious than sleeping together. Like they made a real connection and were emotionally vulnerable with each other.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think this season has been pretty good. I did not love the zava line so glad he’s gone, and I really dislike the Nate story as well as the hostess. He’s just never been a compelling character to me and I know they are setting him up for a redemption but I just would never trust him — the weird spitting to turn himself into a tough guy. I have a particular bias against those jerks who think they are nice guys and blame the world for not recognizing that they are really nice guys or appreciating them—they are the ones that always say “nice guys finish last” when the truth is that they just aren’t very nice, and are confusing low self esteem for niceness. That’s Nate.
I’m also not loving the Jack/keeley thing — it seems random and also really unprofessional of both of them, but particularly for keeley who can’t really afford to piss off her one investor. I thought she was smarter than that. I love the shandy scenes though — truly hysterical.
Jamie is also having a great character arc and one which seems true to who he has always been.
I think you are misinterpreting Nate’s spitting. I don’t think it’s about being a tough guy. I think it is about feeling worthless. The first time we see him do it, he does it to his own reflection.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is my favorite episode so far this season!
A question. I hope the Dutch guy comes back in Rebecca's life. But did he imply at the end that he and Rebecca did do something? I didn't get that from the scene where he removed her feet from his lap.
My read was that he was saying that they did something more serious than sleeping together. Like they made a real connection and were emotionally vulnerable with each other.
Earlier in the episode we see a little girls bedroom and I thought -- remember Rebecca becoming a mother? But if she and the guy actually slept together then... that could be it.
Except that fertility specialist told her she couldn’t get pregnant.
I think she and the Dutch guy find each other again and he has a daughter and she develops a relationship with her.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is my favorite episode so far this season!
A question. I hope the Dutch guy comes back in Rebecca's life. But did he imply at the end that he and Rebecca did do something? I didn't get that from the scene where he removed her feet from his lap.
My read was that he was saying that they did something more serious than sleeping together. Like they made a real connection and were emotionally vulnerable with each other.