Anonymous
03/26/2023 09:56
Subject: Re:So, what is a “good family”?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Good families usually have people with deep voices.
Own good maps and drawings.
Know about fishing and hunting, but do not participate.
Have one or more high quality cars.
Rand McNally or get outta here
Anonymous
03/26/2023 09:50
Subject: Re:So, what is a “good family”?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I come from a “good family” though we are not perfect. I am of Pakistani origin so I’m sure there are some cultural differences.
Both of my parents come from “good families.” My grandparents were not rich but worked diligently in respectable professions. The grandfathers were the head of the home and ensure moral, intellectual and financial best was always observed. Children were raised with care and with the expectation to have the best manners and disposition. Men were gentlemen and women were ladies. You always dress neatly and present yourself well. You speak politely and do not raise your voice. You go into “respectable professions” such as academia, law, medicine or civil service.
You do not drink or do drugs. There is no tolerance for sloppy behavior or debauchery. You respect your elders and respect women in your family. The women learn to paint, needlework, and classical singing. The men are all amateur poets. Education is a noble pursuit, second only to good morals.
You are never rude or impolite and especially treat the less fortunate with kindness. My parents treated their staff like good. My father paid for one of our maids daughter to go to school. And extra food in our pantry would always be gifted to the chauffeurs or the maids.
I live in America now and am married to an American. American “good” families are slightly different in that there is a tremendous emphasis on wealth and material goods and designer clothes. They lack basic rules or civility and treat those who are less fortunate as paupers.
I think that what you describe as a Pakistani vs American difference may be something more like a rural vs urban difference.
I’m a family doctor in the Midwest, and I can’t think of anyone I know who judges people more on their clothes or the gifts they give than my sister’s Pakistani MIL.
I think money may have something to do with it. My grandparents as I said, weren’t wealthy so expensive goods were not a factor. I’m sure richer Pakistani families care more about money and status symbols. I personally think it’s gauche.
Says the person who grew up with maids. Ok.
Anonymous
03/25/2023 22:03
Subject: So, what is a “good family”?
Anonymous
03/25/2023 21:17
Subject: Re:So, what is a “good family”?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Good family = Still Married
I’m not saying a divorced family is a bad family, it’s just not the utopic poster child ideal version of GOOD family.
My parents have been together for 50 something years but my dad suddenly up and left. Am I from a bad family?
I mean yes, if someone is looking at your family from the outside they will perceive it differently than they did 10 yrs ago. Does not erase your own experience.
I don't think there is a perfect family though. A good family mostly depends on the father. If the father is good, lawful, financially responsible, puts family first and isn't a selfish narcissist then it's all good times ahead for the family. [b]You have the kids college paid, nice house in nice neighborhood instead of some roach or mouse infested place, nice schools, more opportunities, parents speak fluent English, good jobs, all those equal good family.
You missed the part “parents speak fluent English” . . . Wait what?
Correct. Parents who speak fluent English have more job opportunities meaning higher pay meaning affording a better neighborhood and life for their kids. I worked in hr and we couldn't move up any people who refused to speak or learn English because they wouldn't be able to communicate with their teams.
I’m embarrassed for you PP. Tell me you are White without telling me you are White.
I'm embarrassed for you to be so ignorant to be drama full about English being needed in an English speaking country. I am not white and that shouldn't even matter.
Oh no I didn’t say English wasn’t important. I said your view that English speaking = criteria for good family is stupid, narrow minded and mypoic.
Without English finances are stressed out enough for the average immigrant to afford a family and marriage unless you work in construction where you can make decent pay. Good family to most means a loving nuclear family fyi. Also you mentioned none of those things. You're being insulting over the internet and being a dumbass.
Huh, interesting deflection. I actually Have posted previously about these factors. I was responding to Your Post, which did Not Mention any of these either. Let me quote: “Correct. Parents who speak fluent English have more job opportunities meaning higher pay meaning affording a better neighborhood and life for their kids. I worked in hr and we couldn't move up any people who refused to speak or learn English because they wouldn't be able to communicate”
Also, Tell me You’re Not An Immigrant without Telling Me You’re Not An Immigrant
Anonymous
03/25/2023 21:10
Subject: Re:So, what is a “good family”?
Anonymous wrote:Good families usually have people with deep voices.
Own good maps and drawings.
Know about fishing and hunting, but do not participate.
Have one or more high quality cars.
Rand McNally or get outta here
Anonymous
03/25/2023 21:09
Subject: Re:So, what is a “good family”?
Anonymous wrote:Good families usually have people with deep voices.
Own good maps and drawings.
Know about fishing and hunting, but do not participate.
Have one or more high quality cars.
Owning good maps is the only proper way to respect them
Anonymous
03/25/2023 20:59
Subject: Re:So, what is a “good family”?
Anonymous wrote:Good families usually have people with deep voices.
Own good maps and drawings.
Know about fishing and hunting, but do not participate.
Have one or more high quality cars.
Who is posting these? They crack me up!
Anonymous
03/25/2023 20:41
Subject: So, what is a “good family”?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It almost always means money. Everyone will rationalize and overlook messy trashy behavior and drama if you're multi-millionaires and own an upscale home. While the same exact messy trashy behavior would make you untouchable trash if you're just a random middle class family.
Boom!! so true.
Most royal families (especially the British one) have Hillbilly Elegy levels of drama, inbreeding etc
The Murdaugh family is another one. Everyone thought they were a good family.
I live next to another Billionaire family where the dad has 5 kids with 5 women and custody of all of them because the moms are alcoholics/drug addicts. He does a lot of coke, travels a lot, and the kids have lots of parties. Their youngest is in the same grade/school as my daughter and he's such a sweet, smart boy. I cringe at his future and path...
Anonymous
03/25/2023 20:30
Subject: Re:So, what is a “good family”?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Good family = Still Married
I’m not saying a divorced family is a bad family, it’s just not the utopic poster child ideal version of GOOD family.
My parents have been together for 50 something years but my dad suddenly up and left. Am I from a bad family?
I mean yes, if someone is looking at your family from the outside they will perceive it differently than they did 10 yrs ago. Does not erase your own experience.
I don't think there is a perfect family though. A good family mostly depends on the father. If the father is good, lawful, financially responsible, puts family first and isn't a selfish narcissist then it's all good times ahead for the family. [b]You have the kids college paid, nice house in nice neighborhood instead of some roach or mouse infested place, nice schools, more opportunities, parents speak fluent English, good jobs, all those equal good family.
Wait what?
You missed the part “parents speak fluent English” . . . Wait what?
Correct. Parents who speak fluent English have more job opportunities meaning higher pay meaning affording a better neighborhood and life for their kids. I worked in hr and we couldn't move up any people who refused to speak or learn English because they wouldn't be able to communicate with their teams.
I’m embarrassed for you PP. Tell me you are White without telling me you are White.
I'm embarrassed for you to be so ignorant to be drama full about English being needed in an English speaking country. I am not white and that shouldn't even matter.
Oh no I didn’t say English wasn’t important. I said your view that English speaking = criteria for good family is stupid, narrow minded and mypoic.
Without English finances are stressed out enough for the average immigrant to afford a family and marriage unless you work in construction where you can make decent pay. Good family to most means a loving nuclear family fyi. Also you mentioned none of those things. You're being insulting over the internet and being a dumbass.
Anonymous
03/25/2023 20:23
Subject: Re:So, what is a “good family”?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Good family = Still Married
I’m not saying a divorced family is a bad family, it’s just not the utopic poster child ideal version of GOOD family.
My parents have been together for 50 something years but my dad suddenly up and left. Am I from a bad family?
I mean yes, if someone is looking at your family from the outside they will perceive it differently than they did 10 yrs ago. Does not erase your own experience.
I don't think there is a perfect family though. A good family mostly depends on the father. If the father is good, lawful, financially responsible, puts family first and isn't a selfish narcissist then it's all good times ahead for the family. [b]You have the kids college paid, nice house in nice neighborhood instead of some roach or mouse infested place, nice schools, more opportunities, parents speak fluent English, good jobs, all those equal good family.
Wait what?
You missed the part “parents speak fluent English” . . . Wait what?
Correct. Parents who speak fluent English have more job opportunities meaning higher pay meaning affording a better neighborhood and life for their kids. I worked in hr and we couldn't move up any people who refused to speak or learn English because they wouldn't be able to communicate with their teams.
I’m embarrassed for you PP. Tell me you are White without telling me you are White.
I'm embarrassed for you to be so ignorant to be drama full about English being needed in an English speaking country. I am not white and that shouldn't even matter.
Oh no I didn’t say English wasn’t important. I said your view that English speaking = criteria for good family is stupid, narrow minded and mypoic.
Anonymous
03/25/2023 20:22
Subject: So, what is a “good family”?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It almost always means money. Everyone will rationalize and overlook messy trashy behavior and drama if you're multi-millionaires and own an upscale home. While the same exact messy trashy behavior would make you untouchable trash if you're just a random middle class family.
Boom!! so true.
Maybe that's all you snobs but I'm different. Trash is TRASH no matter if you're poor or rich. It's all in the behavior and actions you take. Cheater = trash. Murderer = trash. Rapist = trash. Huge ho = trash.
Anonymous
03/25/2023 20:18
Subject: Re:So, what is a “good family”?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Good family = Still Married
I’m not saying a divorced family is a bad family, it’s just not the utopic poster child ideal version of GOOD family.
My parents have been together for 50 something years but my dad suddenly up and left. Am I from a bad family?
I mean yes, if someone is looking at your family from the outside they will perceive it differently than they did 10 yrs ago. Does not erase your own experience.
I don't think there is a perfect family though. A good family mostly depends on the father. If the father is good, lawful, financially responsible, puts family first and isn't a selfish narcissist then it's all good times ahead for the family. [b]You have the kids college paid, nice house in nice neighborhood instead of some roach or mouse infested place, nice schools, more opportunities, parents speak fluent English, good jobs, all those equal good family.
Wait what?
You missed the part “parents speak fluent English” . . . Wait what?
Correct. Parents who speak fluent English have more job opportunities meaning higher pay meaning affording a better neighborhood and life for their kids. I worked in hr and we couldn't move up any people who refused to speak or learn English because they wouldn't be able to communicate with their teams.
I’m embarrassed for you PP. Tell me you are White without telling me you are White.
I'm embarrassed for you to be so ignorant to be drama full about English being needed in an English speaking country. I am not white and that shouldn't even matter.
Anonymous
03/25/2023 20:16
Subject: Re:So, what is a “good family”?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Good family = Still Married
I’m not saying a divorced family is a bad family, it’s just not the utopic poster child ideal version of GOOD family.
My parents have been together for 50 something years but my dad suddenly up and left. Am I from a bad family?
I mean yes, if someone is looking at your family from the outside they will perceive it differently than they did 10 yrs ago. Does not erase your own experience.
I don't think there is a perfect family though. A good family mostly depends on the father. If the father is good, lawful, financially responsible, puts family first and isn't a selfish narcissist then it's all good times ahead for the family. [b]You have the kids college paid, nice house in nice neighborhood instead of some roach or mouse infested place, nice schools, more opportunities, parents speak fluent English, good jobs, all those equal good family.
Wait what?
You missed the part “parents speak fluent English” . . . Wait what?
Correct. Parents who speak fluent English have more job opportunities meaning higher pay meaning affording a better neighborhood and life for their kids. I worked in hr and we couldn't move up any people who refused to speak or learn English because they wouldn't be able to communicate with their teams.
I’m embarrassed for you PP. Tell me you are White without telling me you are White.
Anonymous
03/25/2023 18:45
Subject: Re:So, what is a “good family”?
Good families usually have people with deep voices.
Own good maps and drawings.
Know about fishing and hunting, but do not participate.
Have one or more high quality cars.
Own good maps and drawings.
Know about fishing and hunting, but do not participate.
Have one or more high quality cars.
Anonymous
03/25/2023 18:39
Subject: So, what is a “good family”?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It almost always means money. Everyone will rationalize and overlook messy trashy behavior and drama if you're multi-millionaires and own an upscale home. While the same exact messy trashy behavior would make you untouchable trash if you're just a random middle class family.
Boom!! so true.
Most royal families (especially the British one) have Hillbilly Elegy levels of drama, inbreeding etc