Anonymous wrote:You could tell from the very start that Jackelina was immature and emotionally unstable. Typical. This season has a lot of trash on the show.

Interestingly, Chicago's season had the highest quality women. All five are still friends, still spend time together, haven't overdone the Botox and fillers and overly revealing clothes since their season. I believe they all did the show for the "right" reasons. Dallas women, ugh. The huge lips on Alexa and Zanab, the crazy outfits, fake lashes, incessant Instagram marketing, I've had to unfollow all of them. I was hoping Seattle would trend closer to Chicago, but I think that as the seasons go on, it is clear that is unlikely to happen and more contestants will be focused on instagram fame.

You could tell from the very start that Jackelina was immature and emotionally unstable. Typical. This season has a lot of trash on the show.

Anonymous wrote:OMG , Micah’s friend saying they are not into people who are articulate??!!

Well they were the dumbest bunnies who’ve ever been on the show, and that’s saying something.

OMG , Micah’s friend saying they are not into people who are articulate??!!

Anonymous wrote:Oh Micha is a whole vibe. He is sweet and means well but is very damaged. The singing. Christ. No. No singing, Micah!

You mean Zach?

Oh Micha is a whole vibe. He is sweet and means well but is very damaged. The singing. Christ. No. No singing, Micah!

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Anonymous wrote:Nobody js talking about Chelsea and Kwame. I feel like he is really trying to convince himself that he loves Chelsea, when he pretty clearly doesn't. She reminds me a bit of Nancy-- still all in despite clear signs she shouldn't be. She will say yes, he will say no.

Despite not being at all what I expected, meeting Paul's mom made a lot of sense. I think the living arrangements and basic personality differences will be a determining factor for them. I predict No from both of them.

Jackie is a real self-sabotager and clearly unstable. She is still young, and has time to heal and settle down. If she doesn't get help, though, she will worsen quickly. I feel terrible for Marshall, who is clearly a nice guy and is getting treated miserably. I hope he will be able to recognize that this isn't on him. They are both Nos.

Brett and Tiffany are both Yes, but I still worry something bad could be lurking, because they are clearly getting a very positive edit. It could be that is because they are genuinely doing great, or it could be preparation for some drama. Hoping for the former.

Agree with all of these, feel terrible for Chelsea and Marshall.

I don't know. Chelsea, at least as edited, is too single minded. She has her idea of what she wants her marriage and family life to be - living in Seattle close to her family, having kids soon, etc., and she's just slotting Kwame in. When he brought up his feelings instead of validating them she's just like "welcome to marriage" and "acknowledged." If he's willing to move to Seattle for her, she could help him find a new soccer team, compromise on when to start a family, etc.

Marshall, despite catching himself when he used the word "project" really does have a savior complex. While it's true that Jackie has issues, their relationship is probably not the place to work them out.

I fiagree. I thi k Chelsea is pretty focused and direct, and likely spoke about her wish to settle down and have children while in the pods, and that Kwame (prompted by his lack of love for Chelsea) is now backtracking and looking for an out. Chelsea even offered travelling with babies and homeschooling as possibilities (both of which I recognize as not always realistic, but still proof she is trying to show flexibility. I think if he were with Micah, he wouldn't be making excuses.

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Anonymous wrote:I LOVE Brett and Marshall!!

Where are the men like them??

I thought Tiffany was astute to question Brett's finances, and I suspect he wasn't telling the truth. His wardrobe and shoe collection is insanely wasteful.

I wasn't clear on his job, so looked him up.

Brett is a Director of Immersive design at Nike. In several interviews, Brown described his job as “Product Creation that’s focused on using real-time, high-fidelity visualization and collaboration tools adopted from the games industry to help fuel Nike’s culture of innovation and create the future of the “sport.”

Do we think this is a real FT job? I have no idea. But maybe he gets product samples or a healthy discount on the products?

Why wouldn’t it be a real FT job? Brett is a bachelor who doesn’t have any student loan debt. So he probably spends that Nike Director-level salary on rent, clothes, and gadgets. It’s entirely possible he doesn’t have a healthy savings, though.

True. I read on his Insta he grew up at the poverty line. It's very impressive that he's accomplished what he has without a college degree. Smart, talented guy who may struggle a little with impulse purchases after growing up with nothing. He's thoughtful and mature, should settle down just fine when he has a family. Hope it's with Tiffany!

Agree. His most lavish spend was $1200 on luggage. That’s not obscene for me considering he likely pulls in $150k min. He likely gets all his Nikes (most of his collection) free. I’m sure he does well and he doesn’t seem like a crazy spender. Tiffany is more of a Shein clothing girl (which is just fine) and Brett is more like a mix of Lulu Lemon and Nike. He’s single with no obligations, that would be fine. I especially liked his approach with splitting the finances and expenses. He seems reasonable. Tiff seems to be very frugal (roommate at 36) so I’m sure she’s coming up in the relationship if they are both well financially.

I love them so much but something gives me pause about him being all in. Why didn’t we hear about his family or friends? He seems to authentically like her but still very much reserved.

He also bought a fancy BMW. But he probably is doing very well financially, likely better than all the other guys on the show. His apartment is nice but small. He's so agreeable, I do wonder if there's more beneath the surface.

Housing is crazy expensive in Seattle.

It's more here. Their houses are newer and updated and more square footage. Similar house here is basically a shock for the same price.

Chelsea’s apartment was a small studio/college dorm room. Didn’t even look 250 square feet.

Anonymous wrote:Don't click on here if you don't want major spoilers, but yes, Jackie is awful:

https://www.reddit.com/r/LoveIsBlindNetflix/comments/1288ayq/marshall_and_jackie_mega_hugeeeee_spoilers/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=2&utm_term=1

Oh my!

Don't click on here if you don't want major spoilers, but yes, Jackie is awful:

https://www.reddit.com/r/LoveIsBlindNetflix/comments/1288ayq/marshall_and_jackie_mega_hugeeeee_spoilers/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=2&utm_term=1

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Anonymous wrote:Nobody js talking about Chelsea and Kwame. I feel like he is really trying to convince himself that he loves Chelsea, when he pretty clearly doesn't. She reminds me a bit of Nancy-- still all in despite clear signs she shouldn't be. She will say yes, he will say no.

Despite not being at all what I expected, meeting Paul's mom made a lot of sense. I think the living arrangements and basic personality differences will be a determining factor for them. I predict No from both of them.

Jackie is a real self-sabotager and clearly unstable. She is still young, and has time to heal and settle down. If she doesn't get help, though, she will worsen quickly. I feel terrible for Marshall, who is clearly a nice guy and is getting treated miserably. I hope he will be able to recognize that this isn't on him. They are both Nos.

Brett and Tiffany are both Yes, but I still worry something bad could be lurking, because they are clearly getting a very positive edit. It could be that is because they are genuinely doing great, or it could be preparation for some drama. Hoping for the former.

Agree with all of these, feel terrible for Chelsea and Marshall.

I don't know. Chelsea, at least as edited, is too single minded. She has her idea of what she wants her marriage and family life to be - living in Seattle close to her family, having kids soon, etc., and she's just slotting Kwame in. When he brought up his feelings instead of validating them she's just like "welcome to marriage" and "acknowledged." If he's willing to move to Seattle for her, she could help him find a new soccer team, compromise on when to start a family, etc.

Marshall, despite catching himself when he used the word "project" really does have a savior complex. While it's true that Jackie has issues, their relationship is probably not the place to work them out.

She's 31 and wants to have several kids. How long should she wait? If she lives near family and he doesn't, that also is pretty much a no-brainer. But it is true she's too dismissive of his feelings about all of these enormous life changes, and it's not clear where any compromises would be made on her end. None of this really matters since he's clearly not ready to settle down, and really should be dating a Micah and partying anyway.

He wanted to wait 3-4 years, which is reasonable for a new relationship. She will be 34 and still has time to have 2-3 kids.

It's a big risk for her, since he clearly has issues and could totally bail at that point. Then she's 34 and has to start over, hoping it somehow works out for her? He's almost definitely a no anyway, and she should have dumped him after the totally inappropriate Micah flirtation.

I’ll venture to say that I think Brett and Marshall must be two of the nicest men ever on reality tv. My takes after bingeing the new episodes:

Brett and Tiffany: considerate, mature, and respectful. They are adorable and the best match of the series. If they don’t make it I will be shocked.

Marshall and Jacky: he is so kind, patient and stable. She is fun and fiery and totally not ready to have a mature relationship. She has some major issues or baggage around relationships and is totally self sabotaging a great thing.

Kwame and Chelsea: I don’t get them. She seems like she would be all in for anybody. Not completely desperate but kind of desperate? And he is totally not interested in getting married, has family drama that I think will keep him from saying yes (although I like how respectfully he spoke to his mom) and clearly still more into Micah. His apartment was also really gross. Every time these two tell each other they love each other, I feel like they are trying to convince themselves of the fact.

Paul and Micah: he’s cute and quirky and she’s a pot stirrer and insincere. She is like Shana from two seasons ago — wants to be wanted by as many men as possible and that’s it. There is no way this will work on any planet.

Zach and Bliss: Man is she selling herself short. But supposedly they’re still together?

Saying yes on decision day: Chelsea, Zach, Bliss, Brett, Tiffany
Saying no: Kwame, Marshall, Jacky, Micah, Paul

Anonymous wrote:If you were Bliss, would you trust Zach?

I cannot fathom why Bliss wants to be with Zach. Does she really have this much of a problem finding men to date? He does not even treat her particularly well. I guess she could be motivated by fame, but if that were the case she could have gone on a couple dates and then decided to turn down his marriage proposal. Women across the country would have applauded her. I guess that could still happen…. I am so curious how long this pair will last.

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Anonymous wrote:Nobody js talking about Chelsea and Kwame. I feel like he is really trying to convince himself that he loves Chelsea, when he pretty clearly doesn't. She reminds me a bit of Nancy-- still all in despite clear signs she shouldn't be. She will say yes, he will say no.

Despite not being at all what I expected, meeting Paul's mom made a lot of sense. I think the living arrangements and basic personality differences will be a determining factor for them. I predict No from both of them.

Jackie is a real self-sabotager and clearly unstable. She is still young, and has time to heal and settle down. If she doesn't get help, though, she will worsen quickly. I feel terrible for Marshall, who is clearly a nice guy and is getting treated miserably. I hope he will be able to recognize that this isn't on him. They are both Nos.

Brett and Tiffany are both Yes, but I still worry something bad could be lurking, because they are clearly getting a very positive edit. It could be that is because they are genuinely doing great, or it could be preparation for some drama. Hoping for the former.

Agree with all of these, feel terrible for Chelsea and Marshall.

I don't know. Chelsea, at least as edited, is too single minded. She has her idea of what she wants her marriage and family life to be - living in Seattle close to her family, having kids soon, etc., and she's just slotting Kwame in. When he brought up his feelings instead of validating them she's just like "welcome to marriage" and "acknowledged." If he's willing to move to Seattle for her, she could help him find a new soccer team, compromise on when to start a family, etc.

Marshall, despite catching himself when he used the word "project" really does have a savior complex. While it's true that Jackie has issues, their relationship is probably not the place to work them out.

She's 31 and wants to have several kids. How long should she wait? If she lives near family and he doesn't, that also is pretty much a no-brainer. But it is true she's too dismissive of his feelings about all of these enormous life changes, and it's not clear where any compromises would be made on her end. None of this really matters since he's clearly not ready to settle down, and really should be dating a Micah and partying anyway.

He wanted to wait 3-4 years, which is reasonable for a new relationship. She will be 34 and still has time to have 2-3 kids.

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Anonymous wrote:Nobody js talking about Chelsea and Kwame. I feel like he is really trying to convince himself that he loves Chelsea, when he pretty clearly doesn't. She reminds me a bit of Nancy-- still all in despite clear signs she shouldn't be. She will say yes, he will say no.

Despite not being at all what I expected, meeting Paul's mom made a lot of sense. I think the living arrangements and basic personality differences will be a determining factor for them. I predict No from both of them.

Jackie is a real self-sabotager and clearly unstable. She is still young, and has time to heal and settle down. If she doesn't get help, though, she will worsen quickly. I feel terrible for Marshall, who is clearly a nice guy and is getting treated miserably. I hope he will be able to recognize that this isn't on him. They are both Nos.

Brett and Tiffany are both Yes, but I still worry something bad could be lurking, because they are clearly getting a very positive edit. It could be that is because they are genuinely doing great, or it could be preparation for some drama. Hoping for the former.

Agree with all of these, feel terrible for Chelsea and Marshall.

I don't know. Chelsea, at least as edited, is too single minded. She has her idea of what she wants her marriage and family life to be - living in Seattle close to her family, having kids soon, etc., and she's just slotting Kwame in. When he brought up his feelings instead of validating them she's just like "welcome to marriage" and "acknowledged." If he's willing to move to Seattle for her, she could help him find a new soccer team, compromise on when to start a family, etc.

Marshall, despite catching himself when he used the word "project" really does have a savior complex. While it's true that Jackie has issues, their relationship is probably not the place to work them out.

She's 31 and wants to have several kids. How long should she wait? If she lives near family and he doesn't, that also is pretty much a no-brainer. But it is true she's too dismissive of his feelings about all of these enormous life changes, and it's not clear where any compromises would be made on her end. None of this really matters since he's clearly not ready to settle down, and really should be dating a Micah and partying anyway.