Anonymous
03/22/2023 23:09
Subject: Re:NVSL Seeding is out!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:For the record, chesterbrook does not recruit.
You have an interesting definition of recruiting if that “guest swimmer” from Maryland didn’t count.
As for how a good swimmer can be ushered in the Chesterbrook back door, those beans were spilled on Swim Ninja a few years ago.
Its an NVSL rule that all swim team members have to have a bona fide family pool membership. Are you claiming that chesterbrook is violating this rule? put up or shut up.
Ryan Mathis, a longtime competitor with a MD summer swim team, managed to swim for both that team in 2019:
https://www.thesentinel.com/communities/prince_george/sports/mathis-kingfish-set-new-records-in-2019-pmsl-divisional-meet/article_9b6816aa-9b44-5bb2-bc17-8eb3335bb97f.html
and help his friends from school break NVSL records at Chesterbrook:
https://www.mynvsl.com/file/31518/meet_results_2019_nvsl_all_star_relay_carnival_lp_17jul2019_pdf
Anonymous
03/22/2023 22:54
Subject: Re:NVSL Seeding is out!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Can someone give the highlights of the back door technique?
DCUM closed that forum a few years ago.
McLean definitely wanted to move up. All their swimmers were taking about it at ASR and telling the kids from Langley and Highlands that they were going to be moved down
Anonymous
03/22/2023 22:39
Subject: Re:NVSL Seeding is out!
Anonymous wrote:Can someone give the highlights of the back door technique?
DCUM closed that forum a few years ago.
Anonymous
03/22/2023 21:50
Subject: Re:NVSL Seeding is out!
Anonymous wrote:McLean wanted to be promoted.
NOPE! They argued against it…
Anonymous
03/22/2023 14:20
Subject: Re:NVSL Seeding is out!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:For the record, chesterbrook does not recruit.
DD had a friend move to great falls and start swimming for chesterbrook before the house was even completed. They lived on the other side of the county at the time
Chesterbrook doesn't keep a waitlist from year to year- they open up the 'waitlist' on a certain day, and you apply that day- if you aren't offered anything that summer you have to reapply the next year. There is nothing nefarious about a new family who knows they are moving to the area applying for membership and starting swimming while the house was under construction.
The no waitlist has its advantages- I am on the board at a different pool that has a fairly lengthy waitlist- managing the waitlist is a pain, and we frequently get people who are no longer interested once they finally come off the waitlist- or people applying to the waitlist who really don't want to join the pool, but they have heard they need to 'get on the list.'
On the other hand- it does lead to a more opaque process about who is getting in, and when they applied.
https://chesterbrookclub.com/membership/
This is a pretty clever way for the club to operate. They keep two waitlists essentially - one primary one that gets you a membership and annual secondary ones that feed the primary. They open up the secondary waitlist on a certain day and then it’s first come first serve to get a summer membership. Once you are offered a summer membership, you have to accept or you are taken off the primary waitlist and can’t reapply for a year. Decline twice and you are blackballed forever. The summer membership is priced higher than annual dues for regular members, so they are paying more for 1/3 of the access. There is a max of 110 people allowed on the waiting list and if half are offered summer membership, that’s an extra 175k from just 55 families. This lets the club attract families who need to get into a pool asap and don’t mind paying higher dues for just the summer. Their primary waitlist is populated with families who have already put money into summer dues, so are not as likely to decline a membership. In fact, they can just string those families on ad infinitum because they are grandfathered into the summer membership.
This system definitely allows families to get in faster since it’s an annual secondary waitlist, but I don’t think that was the intention. The intention was to provide a secondary stream of income from non members and create demand for the memberships. By pricing the summer higher, they create the perception (whether true or not) that the summer is worth more than the rest of the year.
I’m not in the area and we have actually been on the waitlist for a few years to get OUT of a club membership in the tristate area. Now I really pay attention to club bylaws.
Anonymous
03/22/2023 13:32
Subject: Re:NVSL Seeding is out!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:For the record, chesterbrook does not recruit.
DD had a friend move to great falls and start swimming for chesterbrook before the house was even completed. They lived on the other side of the county at the time
Chesterbrook doesn't keep a waitlist from year to year- they open up the 'waitlist' on a certain day, and you apply that day- if you aren't offered anything that summer you have to reapply the next year. There is nothing nefarious about a new family who knows they are moving to the area applying for membership and starting swimming while the house was under construction.
The no waitlist has its advantages- I am on the board at a different pool that has a fairly lengthy waitlist- managing the waitlist is a pain, and we frequently get people who are no longer interested once they finally come off the waitlist- or people applying to the waitlist who really don't want to join the pool, but they have heard they need to 'get on the list.'
On the other hand- it does lead to a more opaque process about who is getting in, and when they applied.
https://chesterbrookclub.com/membership/
Sure, and it's a total coincidence that the kid was putting up the best times in the region in their primary stroke
Anonymous
03/22/2023 12:55
Subject: Re:NVSL Seeding is out!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:For the record, chesterbrook does not recruit.
DD had a friend move to great falls and start swimming for chesterbrook before the house was even completed. They lived on the other side of the county at the time
Chesterbrook doesn't keep a waitlist from year to year- they open up the 'waitlist' on a certain day, and you apply that day- if you aren't offered anything that summer you have to reapply the next year. There is nothing nefarious about a new family who knows they are moving to the area applying for membership and starting swimming while the house was under construction.
The no waitlist has its advantages- I am on the board at a different pool that has a fairly lengthy waitlist- managing the waitlist is a pain, and we frequently get people who are no longer interested once they finally come off the waitlist- or people applying to the waitlist who really don't want to join the pool, but they have heard they need to 'get on the list.'
On the other hand- it does lead to a more opaque process about who is getting in, and when they applied.
https://chesterbrookclub.com/membership/
Anonymous
03/22/2023 12:20
Subject: Re:NVSL Seeding is out!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:For the record, chesterbrook does not recruit.
DD had a friend move to great falls and start swimming for chesterbrook before the house was even completed. They lived on the other side of the county at the time
Some clubs in our area (not dmv) allow waitlisted families to pay for a summer membership. Perhaps some of the nvsl clubs do this and allow summer membership families to join the their team.
Anonymous
03/22/2023 11:05
Subject: Re:NVSL Seeding is out!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:For the record, chesterbrook does not recruit.
You have an interesting definition of recruiting if that “guest swimmer” from Maryland didn’t count.
As for how a good swimmer can be ushered in the Chesterbrook back door, those beans were spilled on Swim Ninja a few years ago.
We’ll this is getting juicy…do tell
I can’t imagine how obnoxious places like Chesterbrook. Their team rep bios alone gave me a good laugh.
I generally do not go read rep bios but you peaked my interest. Holy sh*t! They were incredibly obnoxious. First they are professional pics with where they work and graduated? As if that will make you an outstanding rep. The one that rides horses sounds incredibly pretentious to the point she must be a disappointment not being on a country club swim team. What would her horses think!
Statements like triple crown winner on the site. The bios. The one woman chose some incredibly interesting name spellings. It is something.
https://chesterbrook.swimtopia.com/team-representatives
You people are just plain mean. And no, I have no affiliation with Chesterbrook, or any D1 team for that matter.
+1
Anonymous
03/22/2023 10:56
Subject: Re:NVSL Seeding is out!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:For the record, chesterbrook does not recruit.
DD had a friend move to great falls and start swimming for chesterbrook before the house was even completed. They lived on the other side of the county at the time
What’s your point? When we moved to North Arlington we joined Chesterbrook because it was the only pool with an opening that year.
Anonymous
03/22/2023 10:52
Subject: Re:NVSL Seeding is out!
Anonymous wrote:For the record, chesterbrook does not recruit.
DD had a friend move to great falls and start swimming for chesterbrook before the house was even completed. They lived on the other side of the county at the time
Anonymous
03/22/2023 10:49
Subject: Re:NVSL Seeding is out!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:For the record, chesterbrook does not recruit.
You have an interesting definition of recruiting if that “guest swimmer” from Maryland didn’t count.
As for how a good swimmer can be ushered in the Chesterbrook back door, those beans were spilled on Swim Ninja a few years ago.
Its an NVSL rule that all swim team members have to have a bona fide family pool membership. Are you claiming that chesterbrook is violating this rule? put up or shut up.
Anonymous
03/22/2023 09:49
Subject: NVSL Seeding is out!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Whats the dowden effect?
Dowden used to be a very low division team. In fact, they were that way forever. It is a very small pool with poor facilities. They were able to land Evan Stiles (AAC) and then all of the sudden they had all these amazing swimmers. He brought all of his swimmers with him. The made it up to division one - they were the tribute that year and they got the snot kicked out of them. They are now division five, because they have no young swimmers on that team.
Dang, we are division 5. I don't want to drive all the way to Alexandria to swim at a crappy pool.
LOL! We have pools we do B meets with that I am absolutely like, ugh, we are skipping this one.
Who has the best, nicest pools? Who has the worst?
we faced Dowden last year. Their facility is not the best, but it's not like us parents are swimming there. It was perfectly fine for spectating and I found the host families relatively friendly.
Anonymous
03/22/2023 08:23
Subject: Re:NVSL Seeding is out!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:For the record, chesterbrook does not recruit.
You have an interesting definition of recruiting if that “guest swimmer” from Maryland didn’t count.
As for how a good swimmer can be ushered in the Chesterbrook back door, those beans were spilled on Swim Ninja a few years ago.
We’ll this is getting juicy…do tell
I can’t imagine how obnoxious places like Chesterbrook. Their team rep bios alone gave me a good laugh.
I generally do not go read rep bios but you peaked my interest. Holy sh*t! They were incredibly obnoxious. First they are professional pics with where they work and graduated? As if that will make you an outstanding rep. The one that rides horses sounds incredibly pretentious to the point she must be a disappointment not being on a country club swim team. What would her horses think!
Statements like triple crown winner on the site. The bios. The one woman chose some incredibly interesting name spellings. It is something.
https://chesterbrook.swimtopia.com/team-representatives
You people are just plain mean. And no, I have no affiliation with Chesterbrook, or any D1 team for that matter.
Anonymous
03/22/2023 08:23
Subject: NVSL Seeding is out!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I have been surprised at how crappy some of the non-hoa pools are, that people join waitlists and pay membership fees to join.
There are zero pools in South Arlington. So you have no options.
Arlington Forest pool is just over Rt 50. Not far at all.
Dominion Hills and Fort Myer too.
Arlington Forest is an amazing pool but it is a 10K sign up for membership fee and a 7-10 year waitlist.
Fort Myer is lovely, more like a club than a pool with real food you can order and lots of expensive fun activities paid for by DoD, but you have to be military or GS to join. Which is not too tough in this area. It is also Colonial League which arguably might be a plus in its favor.
I know nothing about Dominion Hills.
Arlington forest does not have a 10k membership fee- what a bizarre statement. Its currently 3600, of which you get 3375 back when you want to resign your membership and sell your share back to the club.
https://arlingtonforestclub.org/membership/
Meh. $4200 is a lot for a sign up fee for one summer. It is like they are pricing out people of color or poorer families. Nevermind, I looked at the team photo. They have one black kid and a couple of brown ones in that VERY large team. So their pricing is not discouraging diversity.
It’s a one time fee, not per summer!
DP
That still sounds like a lot for one time.
You clearly have not looked into pool memberships in N. Arlington.
True, we haven’t. We are in the W. Springfield/Burke area.
You should start recruiting all the best swimmers from Old Keene Mill, Orange Hunt, and Hunt Valley to build a super team to take on Chesterbrook.
Haha. Yeah…no. 😆 We’re good.