Anonymous
03/15/2023 17:45
Subject: Northeastern - worst admissions procedures on the planet
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP here. Also forgot to mention how NEU reiterated in this email how they might admit your kid to their Oakland and London campuses when they didn't even apply to those. Just so sketchy it's funny at this point.
Yes. College Confidential is lit up with people asking questions about this. One Boston-area person wants to know why they have to fly to California to attend a school with a campus in Boston.
Because the kid's stats aren't good enough to be in Boston campus because Boston campus is more popular. It's not that hard to understand, people.
No. It worked the other way, too. Some wanted to be abroad and got stuck with Boston.
They put people into campuses they didn’t want.
Is this accurate?!?! Seems crazy if you ask me. But it just demonstrates NEU does what they want, when they want and do not really care about students concerns.
Anonymous
03/15/2023 17:40
Subject: Northeastern - worst admissions procedures on the planet
Anonymous wrote:I honestly do not know of any schools that do not offer study abroad. I do not understand what the big deal is. OP seems to be carrying a rather crushing grudge. For what?
Because normally study abroad programs are the second and third year after some foreign languages prep has taken place. What is new here is that Northeastern is doing it the first term because that allows NE to not report low stats kids and also to play with the yield numbers. Those practices, plus the rolling put of offers (in the hopes of quick acceptances which will boost yield - a practice some law schools engage in) is what make college counselors say that Northeastern is trying to game the system
Anonymous
03/15/2023 17:11
Subject: Re:Northeastern - worst admissions procedures on the planet
I feel like there is some serious sock puppeting on this thread by the resident northeastern booster.
Anonymous
03/15/2023 15:50
Subject: Northeastern - worst admissions procedures on the planet
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What do you expect from that school?
Great education and Excellent outcomes.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Why do think it's popular among high stat kids??
Only because they believe USNWR - any on me old enough knows Northeastern has been throwing millions at climbing those rankings. The education hasn’t changed one bit. Locals and even grad school faculty just shake their heads because they know this is all manufactured and that these kids snd parents are getting suckered.
Not a "booster". While I'm quite familiar with college rankings, I don't believe I've ever heard those words come out of my son's mouth. I think the rankings are more for parents to brag or perhaps "steer" kids to a particular institution.
We visited NU and son applied. Likes the CS program, co-op and Boston (also applied to BU and "H"). In addition to the ridiculously low acceptance rate, we are merit dependent. Already has five acceptances. Just another to consider if accepted.
Anonymous
03/15/2023 15:39
Subject: Re:Northeastern - worst admissions procedures on the planet
I don’t understand the Northeastern hate. It’s not an Ivy+ by any stretch of the imagination, but it’s a terrific school. It’s frustrating when your kid doesn’t get in somewhere, or doesn’t get the program they want, but that’s life.
Anonymous
03/15/2023 13:40
Subject: Re:Northeastern - worst admissions procedures on the planet
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I have no idea what the big issue is here. If you apply to Boston campus and they accept you for their abroad campus, just don't accept. It's not like you accepted admission thinking Boston and then they switched on you. What's the problem? My dc applied and did not mark that he was interested in other campus other than Boston. But he was accepted to NUin which is first semester abroad (only 1 semester, not over a year like pp said). He is actually thankful that he got that offer rather than a rejection. Either way, he's not going to take it because the school is too expensive for us, but this is really not something to get all worked up over. There really are other things in life that are more egregious that you may want to channel your energy into, op.
+1. If your kid gets an offer to start at a non-boston campus for Fall semester, you know they weren't a top applicant. You can just move on.
Who cares if your kid isn’t a “top” choice for the school? They got in! Isn’t that the point of reach schools? Sometimes you apply to schools that are a little above you. If you get in to a first year abroad program, you are lucky and you can decide whether or not you want it.
+1
Posting false information is not helping OP, at all.
Anonymous
03/15/2023 13:37
Subject: Northeastern - worst admissions procedures on the planet
I honestly do not know of any schools that do not offer study abroad. I do not understand what the big deal is. OP seems to be carrying a rather crushing grudge. For what?
Anonymous
03/15/2023 13:28
Subject: Re:Northeastern - worst admissions procedures on the planet
This is a really interesting article, even though it's from 2014: https://www.bostonmagazine.com/news/2014/08/26/how-northeastern-gamed-the-college-rankings/
This quote is especially interesting, and possibly why it feels like NEU is unique among other schools. The emphasis on admitting so many kids abroad for their first semester seems like an outlier...It's a way to deal with the overcrowding on the Boston campus, AND a way to increase the scores ranking. Also, the cost of actual attendance for a school in, say Ireland, is MUCH less than a US school, so is NEU charging 80k for a much less expensive foreign program, and then pocketing the difference? This is not unique to Northeastern, of course. All universities run the study abroad racket.
"Aoun also began using spring enrollment to his advantage. In 2007 the school introduced N.U.in, a program that invites students with lower grades and SAT scores to spend their first semester abroad and begin their on-campus experience in the spring. U.S. News does not collect data for spring entrants, so those students’ lower grades and scores are excluded from the rankings. Editor Brian Kelly explains that U.S. News doesn’t require spring data because the federal government doesn’t either, but he concedes, “It’s possible that is a gaming window.”
This quote is especially interesting, and possibly why it feels like NEU is unique among other schools. The emphasis on admitting so many kids abroad for their first semester seems like an outlier...It's a way to deal with the overcrowding on the Boston campus, AND a way to increase the scores ranking. Also, the cost of actual attendance for a school in, say Ireland, is MUCH less than a US school, so is NEU charging 80k for a much less expensive foreign program, and then pocketing the difference? This is not unique to Northeastern, of course. All universities run the study abroad racket.
"Aoun also began using spring enrollment to his advantage. In 2007 the school introduced N.U.in, a program that invites students with lower grades and SAT scores to spend their first semester abroad and begin their on-campus experience in the spring. U.S. News does not collect data for spring entrants, so those students’ lower grades and scores are excluded from the rankings. Editor Brian Kelly explains that U.S. News doesn’t require spring data because the federal government doesn’t either, but he concedes, “It’s possible that is a gaming window.”
Anonymous
03/15/2023 13:06
Subject: Re:Northeastern - worst admissions procedures on the planet
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I have no idea what the big issue is here. If you apply to Boston campus and they accept you for their abroad campus, just don't accept. It's not like you accepted admission thinking Boston and then they switched on you. What's the problem? My dc applied and did not mark that he was interested in other campus other than Boston. But he was accepted to NUin which is first semester abroad (only 1 semester, not over a year like pp said). He is actually thankful that he got that offer rather than a rejection. Either way, he's not going to take it because the school is too expensive for us, but this is really not something to get all worked up over. There really are other things in life that are more egregious that you may want to channel your energy into, op.
+1. If your kid gets an offer to start at a non-boston campus for Fall semester, you know they weren't a top applicant. You can just move on.
Who cares if your kid isn’t a “top” choice for the school? They got in! Isn’t that the point of reach schools? Sometimes you apply to schools that are a little above you. If you get in to a first year abroad program, you are lucky and you can decide whether or not you want it.
Anonymous
03/15/2023 12:58
Subject: Northeastern - worst admissions procedures on the planet
Fwiw, if you are admitted to Oakland you can go to Boston after a year, no additional requirements to meet. It’s similar to nu bound if that’s what you want.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP here. Also forgot to mention how NEU reiterated in this email how they might admit your kid to their Oakland and London campuses when they didn't even apply to those. Just so sketchy it's funny at this point.
My kid was deferred EA. I have no true complaint about the decision roll out, but I'm not a fan of them putting kids into London and Oakland when that interest wasn't indicated on their application.
Anonymous
03/15/2023 12:46
Subject: Northeastern - worst admissions procedures on the planet
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What do you expect from that school?
Great education and Excellent outcomes.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Why do think it's popular among high stat kids??
Only because they believe USNWR - any on me old enough knows Northeastern has been throwing millions at climbing those rankings. The education hasn’t changed one bit. Locals and even grad school faculty just shake their heads because they know this is all manufactured and that these kids snd parents are getting suckered.
Very wrong in the first place. My kid got in UF which was ranked #30 but declined and attending Northeastern #49 2 years ago.
So they can get into bunch of higher ranked schools by USNWR including the 2nd rate UC schools, but choose Northeastern for other reasons and fit.
Northeastern beats BU, Tufts, Brandeis and most of the schools in the Boston area in outcomes. It can't happen just with ranking or anything.
Anonymous
03/15/2023 12:37
Subject: Re:Northeastern - worst admissions procedures on the planet
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:One of the schools my kid applied to was Georgia Tech.
Got offered pathway program - basically next Fall admit after 1 year at somewhere else.
It thought it was better than reject. Thanks for the option, and no hard feeling at all.
Got direct admit to Northeastern, and attending.
Georgia Yech is a much better school if engineering, computer sciences, etc
In fact, the majors were 'CS & Media Art' for Northeastern and 'Computational Media' for Georgia Tech.
My kid was artistic, interested in digital art/animation/Game/3D/VR etc., and at the same time smart(1540 SAT)
Those programs were like half CS and half digital art curriculum.
Kid had the Georgia tech option in had for one year.
After a year, I asked if DC wants to switch to Georgia Tech.
DC wanted to say with Northeastern.
Anonymous
03/15/2023 12:32
Subject: Northeastern - worst admissions procedures on the planet
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP here. Also forgot to mention how NEU reiterated in this email how they might admit your kid to their Oakland and London campuses when they didn't even apply to those. Just so sketchy it's funny at this point.
Yes. College Confidential is lit up with people asking questions about this. One Boston-area person wants to know why they have to fly to California to attend a school with a campus in Boston.
Because the kid's stats aren't good enough to be in Boston campus because Boston campus is more popular. It's not that hard to understand, people.
No. It worked the other way, too. Some wanted to be abroad and got stuck with Boston.
They put people into campuses they didn’t want.
+1
PP here. I was aware of this, too. There are several factors at play, that OP is not familiar with, but I did not want to give them too many, because I wanted OP to keep talking and providing inaccurate information, as they have throughout this thread.
Anonymous
03/15/2023 12:29
Subject: Northeastern - worst admissions procedures on the planet
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP here. Also forgot to mention how NEU reiterated in this email how they might admit your kid to their Oakland and London campuses when they didn't even apply to those. Just so sketchy it's funny at this point.
Yes. College Confidential is lit up with people asking questions about this. One Boston-area person wants to know why they have to fly to California to attend a school with a campus in Boston.
Because the kid's stats aren't good enough to be in Boston campus because Boston campus is more popular. It's not that hard to understand, people.
No. It worked the other way, too. Some wanted to be abroad and got stuck with Boston.
They put people into campuses they didn’t want.
Anonymous
03/15/2023 12:08
Subject: Northeastern - worst admissions procedures on the planet
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I really can’t believe people take this con job of a college seriously. Knowing all the games they play
I don’t know if I is a con job but it was a commuter school that took everyone 25 years ago, has the school really improved that much?
Not according to people I know. When their parents attended in the 50's - back then BU, BC, Northeastern and Harvard were all commuter schools. So?
Mason is still a commuter school. So?
Seriously there was zero prestige to Northeastern back then and no BU and BC we’re never commuter schools.
Who cares about back then.
Most colleges started small.
Many top 20 colleges had acceptance rate of 50 60 70% back rhen. So what. Present is important.
U Chicago had an acceptance rate over 70% in 1993. This board worships UC.
This is the thing. Schools like UChicago and USC have really climbed the ranks but people have now acclimated to it so nobody complains. Chicago uses all kinds of gimmicks to climb the ranks. USC has very similar global campuses/programs where kids start off there and then come to CA later. Wash U gives out fee waivers to tons of kids. Nothing that Northeastern is doing is that different than what many other schools do or have done. The difference is that Northeastern's popularity is more recent so people are having a hard time adjusting to its selectivity. That is causing a lot of hate on Northeastern because people believe they should be admitted. And then all these threads about Northeastern, honestly in my opinion, only helps it because it's publicity. That's how Trump got elected. The news couldn't stop covering him even if it was to say negative stuff. But really, people apply to schools they have heard of. And threads like this where OP is coming across like a complete helicopter parent, on the kid's email, hysterical over a fairly benign letter ... OP is coming across pretty unhinged. That is not giving OP much credibility.
+1
This is very true. Well said. OP (for free!) is single handedly doing more for Northeastern than USNWR could have ever done. Including, but not limited to, citing CC opinions (also uncited, see for yourself) and making up who gets admitted, without having any facts or personal insight. It is amusing, if not quite sad.
OP, stay in your lane, and you might find happiness. Perhaps.