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Anonymous wrote:There are 12 ivy athletic recruits at st Albans for class of 2023? Wow

I don’t believe this is accurate. 12 Ivy commits is a lot. I know there are three in lacrosse (2 Penn and 1 Cornell), one in golf (Columbia), and one in cross country/track (Cornell). That’s five total. Who else?

One baseball (Princeton). That's it I think.
How many other ivies are there?
I know of 4 more (non athletes).

Anonymous wrote:There are 12 ivy athletic recruits at st Albans for class of 2023? Wow

I don’t believe this is accurate. 12 Ivy commits is a lot. I know there are three in lacrosse (2 Penn and 1 Cornell), one in golf (Columbia), and one in cross country/track (Cornell). That’s five total. Who else?

Of note, the handful of legacy that did get in from STA and NCS this year (very small handful that is) are all super high achievers--generally top 10% of the class. Also have lots of impressive extracurriculars and interests. So legacy was a bump on top of being some of the top students. The only issue being that top students with out legacy did not get in.

You can't throw rock without hitting an Ivy double legacy kid at these schools but it really was only the ones who were near the very top of the class who got the nod.

This is not 100% accurate.

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You're spinning your own story just like the CCO is.
College counseling says "everything fine". You and others keep saying: "many disappointed". No one is giving more info.
It's very difficult to figure out what is going on.
-parent of form V boy

But many people have said. Some of the top academic boys, who also have great ECs, did not have results they hoped for. On the other hand, there are a lot of Ivy legacy and athletic admits.

I think the same story everywhere including Sidwell (way to go, double legacies!) and NCS. I think this year conclusively marks the end of Big 3 hopes. ED was bad and RD was terrible, even for the top kids.

Of note, the handful of legacy that did get in from STA and NCS this year (very small handful that is) are all super high achievers--generally top 10% of the class. Also have lots of impressive extracurriculars and interests. So legacy was a bump on top of being some of the top students. The only issue being that top students with out legacy did not get in.

You can't throw rock without hitting an Ivy double legacy kid at these schools but it really was only the ones who were near the very top of the class who got the nod.

Anonymous wrote:

You're spinning your own story just like the CCO is.
College counseling says "everything fine". You and others keep saying: "many disappointed". No one is giving more info.
It's very difficult to figure out what is going on.
-parent of form V boy

But many people have said. Some of the top academic boys, who also have great ECs, did not have results they hoped for. On the other hand, there are a lot of Ivy legacy and athletic admits.

I think the same story everywhere including Sidwell (way to go, double legacies!) and NCS. I think this year conclusively marks the end of Big 3 hopes. ED was bad and RD was terrible, even for the top kids.

You're spinning your own story just like the CCO is.
College counseling says "everything fine". You and others keep saying: "many disappointed". No one is giving more info.
It's very difficult to figure out what is going on.
-parent of form V boy

But many people have said. Some of the top academic boys, who also have great ECs, did not have results they hoped for. On the other hand, there are a lot of Ivy legacy and athletic admits.

There are 12 ivy athletic recruits at st Albans for class of 2023? Wow

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Anonymous wrote:End of meritocracy in America is how I see it.

Right, because getting into and being able to attend St. Albans in the first place was entirely based on merit...

Surviving it and coming out on top definitely was.

But I'm not sure it shows more grit and intelligence than other kids in different but still very challenging situations.

Kid at Big 3. Another at a well-known and competitive MD public. I can say, without qualification, that the very top students in both settings are really quite exceptional in absolute terms and would be extremely competitive in relation to top students elsewhere in the country. To hear that the very top STA students have not been admitted to top colleges suggests that meritocracy is indeed no more the norm in admissions.

Way to reach conclusions on the basis of extremely sketchy information. There are no “top” kids at STA. the school doesn’t rank or weight GPAs and there will always be a group of kids who are essentially equivalent.

Huh? There are "top kids" at STA.

For example, by senior year there are kids taking math 4-5 years apart (from pre calculus to 3+ years beyond calculus). there are definitely academic superstars. there are also kids who take the bare minimum. And every kid has a GPA. The school might not rank them but the kids aren't applying without this number behind their name and everyone knows who the top GPA kids are.

Gpa isn’t weighted. Math isn’t the be all end all either. Some do more science than others. Others take the harder humanities classes. It’s not so simplistic.

Others play sports or do ECs the others don’t. It all factors into applications. There is essentially a group of students that all end up roughly in the same place.

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Anonymous wrote:End of meritocracy in America is how I see it.

Right, because getting into and being able to attend St. Albans in the first place was entirely based on merit...

Surviving it and coming out on top definitely was.

But I'm not sure it shows more grit and intelligence than other kids in different but still very challenging situations.

Kid at Big 3. Another at a well-known and competitive MD public. I can say, without qualification, that the very top students in both settings are really quite exceptional in absolute terms and would be extremely competitive in relation to top students elsewhere in the country. To hear that the very top STA students have not been admitted to top colleges suggests that meritocracy is indeed no more the norm in admissions.

Way to reach conclusions on the basis of extremely sketchy information. There are no “top” kids at STA. the school doesn’t rank or weight GPAs and there will always be a group of kids who are essentially equivalent.

Huh? There are "top kids" at STA.

For example, by senior year there are kids taking math 4-5 years apart (from pre calculus to 3+ years beyond calculus). there are definitely academic superstars. there are also kids who take the bare minimum. And every kid has a GPA. The school might not rank them but the kids aren't applying without this number behind their name and everyone knows who the top GPA kids are.

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Anonymous wrote:Any parents of STA seniors care to share the real inside scoop? I heard the CCO always tell parents "in the end everything works out". Sometimes it does not, if you have your Top 5/6 kids not getting into at least the bottom Ivy's.

Everything did not work out this year so stop spinning. Lots of disappointment all around.

You're spinning your own story just like the CCO is.
College counseling says "everything fine". You and others keep saying: "many disappointed". No one is giving more info.
It's very difficult to figure out what is going on.
-parent of form V boy

To be more concrete:
Is it "disappointed because my 93% boy did not get into an Ivy" or "disappointed because my 93% boy is going to Penn State or Indiana"

No one can tell with these vague comments from either side.

Isn't that the same? If you are top 1-5 percent in the class and can only manage Penn State and Indiana, that would be a huge disappointment.

You have to recognize that there are only so many schools any given kid can apply to. If you miss at your reaches, or targets, other reaches and targets that you didn't apply to may have admitted you, but you can't apply to all of them. Kids take a shot and sometimes it doesn't work out at the places they chose to try.

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Anonymous wrote:Any parents of STA seniors care to share the real inside scoop? I heard the CCO always tell parents "in the end everything works out". Sometimes it does not, if you have your Top 5/6 kids not getting into at least the bottom Ivy's.

Everything did not work out this year so stop spinning. Lots of disappointment all around.

You're spinning your own story just like the CCO is.
College counseling says "everything fine". You and others keep saying: "many disappointed". No one is giving more info.
It's very difficult to figure out what is going on.
-parent of form V boy

If your kid is in form V and doesn’t know where the kids one grade up are going then no one here can help you.

Huh? He probably knows where 30-50% of the class is going. How the heck would he know every destination for kids in a grade he's not even in? That's bordering on weird.
He doesn't sit around at lunch or in the hallways or sports and ask seniors where they're going. he's social media friends with most kids but many (teh non-athletes, etc! are not broadcasting things on social media. Plus several of the smartest (top) kids aren't even on social media at all.

Because you actually think some random poster here is going to give you better information. Your kid is the best source of information you will have until the bulletin comes out in the fall.

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Anonymous wrote:The boys have done really well and more than 30 kids got to their ED choices
Around 15 kids going to ivy’s
Williams, u Chicago, Georgetown, uva and Boston college…
And other top 20 schools
The class size is a lot smaller than other private schools in the area.

More than 15 to Ivy, Williams etc combined? Or 15 to Ivy? All in ED? that would be pretty impressive.

It's about 15 to Ivies. But about 12 are sports recruits (varied academically). About 3 were ED legacies (all very top students).

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Anonymous wrote:End of meritocracy in America is how I see it.

Right, because getting into and being able to attend St. Albans in the first place was entirely based on merit...

Surviving it and coming out on top definitely was.

But I'm not sure it shows more grit and intelligence than other kids in different but still very challenging situations.

Kid at Big 3. Another at a well-known and competitive MD public. I can say, without qualification, that the very top students in both settings are really quite exceptional in absolute terms and would be extremely competitive in relation to top students elsewhere in the country. To hear that the very top STA students have not been admitted to top colleges suggests that meritocracy is indeed no more the norm in admissions.

Way to reach conclusions on the basis of extremely sketchy information. There are no “top” kids at STA. the school doesn’t rank or weight GPAs and there will always be a group of kids who are essentially equivalent.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Any parents of STA seniors care to share the real inside scoop? I heard the CCO always tell parents "in the end everything works out". Sometimes it does not, if you have your Top 5/6 kids not getting into at least the bottom Ivy's.

Everything did not work out this year so stop spinning. Lots of disappointment all around.

You're spinning your own story just like the CCO is.
College counseling says "everything fine". You and others keep saying: "many disappointed". No one is giving more info.
It's very difficult to figure out what is going on.
-parent of form V boy

To be more concrete:
Is it "disappointed because my 93% boy did not get into an Ivy" or "disappointed because my 93% boy is going to Penn State or Indiana"

No one can tell with these vague comments from either side.

Isn't that the same? If you are top 1-5 percent in the class and can only manage Penn State and Indiana, that would be a huge disappointment.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Any parents of STA seniors care to share the real inside scoop? I heard the CCO always tell parents "in the end everything works out". Sometimes it does not, if you have your Top 5/6 kids not getting into at least the bottom Ivy's.

Everything did not work out this year so stop spinning. Lots of disappointment all around.

You're spinning your own story just like the CCO is.
College counseling says "everything fine". You and others keep saying: "many disappointed". No one is giving more info.
It's very difficult to figure out what is going on.
-parent of form V boy

If your kid is in form V and doesn’t know where the kids one grade up are going then no one here can help you.

Huh? He probably knows where 30-50% of the class is going. How the heck would he know every destination for kids in a grade he's not even in? That's bordering on weird.
He doesn't sit around at lunch or in the hallways or sports and ask seniors where they're going. he's social media friends with most kids but many (teh non-athletes, etc! are not broadcasting things on social media. Plus several of the smartest (top) kids aren't even on social media at all.