Anonymous
03/01/2023 20:22
Subject: Re:Mink and Jawando propose to limit pull over offenses in Moco
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:MoCo Police Chief Marcus Jones is not a fan of Jawando's plan.....
https://wjla.com/news/local/crime-law-enforcement-leaders-video-7news-interviews-montgomery-county-police-chief-marcus-jones-traffic-stops-traffic-fatalities-homicides#
A person who is in charge of an agency is not a fan of a plan to restrict what the agency can do? In other news, the sun rose in the east today.
Or…
A person with a firm understanding of policing / public safety is not a fan of a plan that lacks common sense and demonstrates little understanding of public safety needs.
I’m a teacher. This reminds me of times central office staff members who know nothing about the nuances of my job try to tell me how to do it. Their interruptions merely cause curriculum disruptions. This plan, by contrast, can actually cost lives.
MCPD independently decided to reduce the number of traffic stops they conduct to a third of the level they did pre pandemic. What reason did they give? Is it the vacancies in the department? No. Was it other work demands? No. Was it a directive from the Council? No. It is "the rhetoric". They are the ones costing lives, not some bill (that will never pass) that targets low level offenses.
Just like teachers aren't always right, neither are police. Look at the history of this country. We did wait for farmers to decide they didn't need slaves. We didn't wait for bus drivers to say they didn't need to segregate the buses. Community activism has driven a lot of really important change in this country. You're suggesting we dismiss them out of hand because they are not the police. That's not a reasonable position.
You've posted this nonsense before. You heard the Chief reference that the rhetoric is discouraging and is affecting performance, correct? Well, my performance will also be affected if I'm kicked repeatedly when I'm down. (See Mink and Jawando's comments about police for examples of "kicking.") As for your work stoppage comment, I'm sure you understand that police do FAR MORE than traffic stops. I'm sure you are aware that they first and foremost answer calls. Staffing is way down and calls are way up. Guess what that means? They can't do as much traffic enforcement because they are constantly running calls. Your perceived work stoppage is actually them working harder in another area.
As for teachers and police not always being right... there you are correct. Guess who else isn't always right? Politicans who have an ax to grind with police. (See Mink and Jawando's comments about police for examples of "ax to grind.") I'm comfortable dismissing their comments because they don't come from a genuine, honest place.
As for community activism, I'm actually a big fan. This isn't community activism. This is dangerous, and I care about my community.
They are risking people's lives to make a political point no matter how you dress it up.
Bad policing also risks people's lives, and I'm interested to know how you assessed whether or not they're sincere.
Anonymous
03/01/2023 20:16
Subject: Re:Mink and Jawando propose to limit pull over offenses in Moco
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:MoCo Police Chief Marcus Jones is not a fan of Jawando's plan.....
https://wjla.com/news/local/crime-law-enforcement-leaders-video-7news-interviews-montgomery-county-police-chief-marcus-jones-traffic-stops-traffic-fatalities-homicides#
A person who is in charge of an agency is not a fan of a plan to restrict what the agency can do? In other news, the sun rose in the east today.
Or…
A person with a firm understanding of policing / public safety is not a fan of a plan that lacks common sense and demonstrates little understanding of public safety needs.
I’m a teacher. This reminds me of times central office staff members who know nothing about the nuances of my job try to tell me how to do it. Their interruptions merely cause curriculum disruptions. This plan, by contrast, can actually cost lives.
MCPD independently decided to reduce the number of traffic stops they conduct to a third of the level they did pre pandemic. What reason did they give? Is it the vacancies in the department? No. Was it other work demands? No. Was it a directive from the Council? No. It is "the rhetoric". They are the ones costing lives, not some bill (that will never pass) that targets low level offenses.
Just like teachers aren't always right, neither are police. Look at the history of this country. We did wait for farmers to decide they didn't need slaves. We didn't wait for bus drivers to say they didn't need to segregate the buses. Community activism has driven a lot of really important change in this country. You're suggesting we dismiss them out of hand because they are not the police. That's not a reasonable position.
You've posted this nonsense before. You heard the Chief reference that the rhetoric is discouraging and is affecting performance, correct? Well, my performance will also be affected if I'm kicked repeatedly when I'm down. (See Mink and Jawando's comments about police for examples of "kicking.") As for your work stoppage comment, I'm sure you understand that police do FAR MORE than traffic stops. I'm sure you are aware that they first and foremost answer calls. Staffing is way down and calls are way up. Guess what that means? They can't do as much traffic enforcement because they are constantly running calls. Your perceived work stoppage is actually them working harder in another area.
As for teachers and police not always being right... there you are correct. Guess who else isn't always right? Politicans who have an ax to grind with police. (See Mink and Jawando's comments about police for examples of "ax to grind.") I'm comfortable dismissing their comments because they don't come from a genuine, honest place.
As for community activism, I'm actually a big fan. This isn't community activism. This is dangerous, and I care about my community.
They are risking people's lives to make a political point no matter how you dress it up.
Anonymous
03/01/2023 20:03
Subject: Re:Mink and Jawando propose to limit pull over offenses in Moco
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:MoCo Police Chief Marcus Jones is not a fan of Jawando's plan.....
https://wjla.com/news/local/crime-law-enforcement-leaders-video-7news-interviews-montgomery-county-police-chief-marcus-jones-traffic-stops-traffic-fatalities-homicides#
A person who is in charge of an agency is not a fan of a plan to restrict what the agency can do? In other news, the sun rose in the east today.
Or…
A person with a firm understanding of policing / public safety is not a fan of a plan that lacks common sense and demonstrates little understanding of public safety needs.
I’m a teacher. This reminds me of times central office staff members who know nothing about the nuances of my job try to tell me how to do it. Their interruptions merely cause curriculum disruptions. This plan, by contrast, can actually cost lives.
MCPD independently decided to reduce the number of traffic stops they conduct to a third of the level they did pre pandemic. What reason did they give? Is it the vacancies in the department? No. Was it other work demands? No. Was it a directive from the Council? No. It is "the rhetoric". They are the ones costing lives, not some bill (that will never pass) that targets low level offenses.
Just like teachers aren't always right, neither are police. Look at the history of this country. We did wait for farmers to decide they didn't need slaves. We didn't wait for bus drivers to say they didn't need to segregate the buses. Community activism has driven a lot of really important change in this country. You're suggesting we dismiss them out of hand because they are not the police. That's not a reasonable position.
You've posted this nonsense before. You heard the Chief reference that the rhetoric is discouraging and is affecting performance, correct? Well, my performance will also be affected if I'm kicked repeatedly when I'm down. (See Mink and Jawando's comments about police for examples of "kicking.") As for your work stoppage comment, I'm sure you understand that police do FAR MORE than traffic stops. I'm sure you are aware that they first and foremost answer calls. Staffing is way down and calls are way up. Guess what that means? They can't do as much traffic enforcement because they are constantly running calls. Your perceived work stoppage is actually them working harder in another area.
As for teachers and police not always being right... there you are correct. Guess who else isn't always right? Politicans who have an ax to grind with police. (See Mink and Jawando's comments about police for examples of "ax to grind.") I'm comfortable dismissing their comments because they don't come from a genuine, honest place.
As for community activism, I'm actually a big fan. This isn't community activism. This is dangerous, and I care about my community.
Anonymous
03/01/2023 18:54
Subject: Mink and Jawando propose to limit pull over offenses in Moco
Anonymous wrote:I think one of Jawando's comments was very telling. He said that traffic stops were humiliating. I think he's very narcissistic and can't tolerate anyone questioning his actions.
Nobody likes being pulled over. But how many people characterize it as humiliating?
Presumably all, or least most, of the people who have been subject to a humiliating traffic stop. If you haven't been subject to a humiliating traffic stop, goody for you. Other people have.
Anonymous
03/01/2023 18:52
Subject: Re:Mink and Jawando propose to limit pull over offenses in Moco
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:MoCo Police Chief Marcus Jones is not a fan of Jawando's plan.....
https://wjla.com/news/local/crime-law-enforcement-leaders-video-7news-interviews-montgomery-county-police-chief-marcus-jones-traffic-stops-traffic-fatalities-homicides#
A person who is in charge of an agency is not a fan of a plan to restrict what the agency can do? In other news, the sun rose in the east today.
Or…
A person with a firm understanding of policing / public safety is not a fan of a plan that lacks common sense and demonstrates little understanding of public safety needs.
I’m a teacher. This reminds me of times central office staff members who know nothing about the nuances of my job try to tell me how to do it. Their interruptions merely cause curriculum disruptions. This plan, by contrast, can actually cost lives.
I agree that the police have a viewpoint to understand with respect to policing. However, the policed also have a viewpoint to understand with respect to policing. Just like teachers and students both have viewpoints to understand with respect to teaching.
Anonymous
03/01/2023 18:51
Subject: Re:Mink and Jawando propose to limit pull over offenses in Moco
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:MoCo Police Chief Marcus Jones is not a fan of Jawando's plan.....
https://wjla.com/news/local/crime-law-enforcement-leaders-video-7news-interviews-montgomery-county-police-chief-marcus-jones-traffic-stops-traffic-fatalities-homicides#
A person who is in charge of an agency is not a fan of a plan to restrict what the agency can do? In other news, the sun rose in the east today.
Or…
A person with a firm understanding of policing / public safety is not a fan of a plan that lacks common sense and demonstrates little understanding of public safety needs.
I’m a teacher. This reminds me of times central office staff members who know nothing about the nuances of my job try to tell me how to do it. Their interruptions merely cause curriculum disruptions. This plan, by contrast, can actually cost lives.
MCPD independently decided to reduce the number of traffic stops they conduct to a third of the level they did pre pandemic. What reason did they give? Is it the vacancies in the department? No. Was it other work demands? No. Was it a directive from the Council? No. It is "the rhetoric". They are the ones costing lives, not some bill (that will never pass) that targets low level offenses.
Just like teachers aren't always right, neither are police. Look at the history of this country. We did wait for farmers to decide they didn't need slaves. We didn't wait for bus drivers to say they didn't need to segregate the buses. Community activism has driven a lot of really important change in this country. You're suggesting we dismiss them out of hand because they are not the police. That's not a reasonable position.
Well, truthfully, they are running so many calls for service, it can be difficult to fit in traffic stops, too. Short staffing does impact them. That may not be at the top of their minds, but it definite contributes.
No dude, it is a work stoppage. They are trying to make a political point by putting people's lives at risk. If it were short staffing or more calls for service, they could say that. They didn't.
Anonymous
03/01/2023 18:49
Subject: Mink and Jawando propose to limit pull over offenses in Moco
I think one of Jawando's comments was very telling. He said that traffic stops were humiliating. I think he's very narcissistic and can't tolerate anyone questioning his actions.
Nobody likes being pulled over. But how many people characterize it as humiliating?
Nobody likes being pulled over. But how many people characterize it as humiliating?
Anonymous
03/01/2023 18:47
Subject: Re:Mink and Jawando propose to limit pull over offenses in Moco
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:MoCo Police Chief Marcus Jones is not a fan of Jawando's plan.....
https://wjla.com/news/local/crime-law-enforcement-leaders-video-7news-interviews-montgomery-county-police-chief-marcus-jones-traffic-stops-traffic-fatalities-homicides#
A person who is in charge of an agency is not a fan of a plan to restrict what the agency can do? In other news, the sun rose in the east today.
Or…
A person with a firm understanding of policing / public safety is not a fan of a plan that lacks common sense and demonstrates little understanding of public safety needs.
I’m a teacher. This reminds me of times central office staff members who know nothing about the nuances of my job try to tell me how to do it. Their interruptions merely cause curriculum disruptions. This plan, by contrast, can actually cost lives.
MCPD independently decided to reduce the number of traffic stops they conduct to a third of the level they did pre pandemic. What reason did they give? Is it the vacancies in the department? No. Was it other work demands? No. Was it a directive from the Council? No. It is "the rhetoric". They are the ones costing lives, not some bill (that will never pass) that targets low level offenses.
Just like teachers aren't always right, neither are police. Look at the history of this country. We did wait for farmers to decide they didn't need slaves. We didn't wait for bus drivers to say they didn't need to segregate the buses. Community activism has driven a lot of really important change in this country. You're suggesting we dismiss them out of hand because they are not the police. That's not a reasonable position.
Well, truthfully, they are running so many calls for service, it can be difficult to fit in traffic stops, too. Short staffing does impact them. That may not be at the top of their minds, but it definite contributes.
Anonymous
03/01/2023 18:45
Subject: Re:Mink and Jawando propose to limit pull over offenses in Moco
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:MoCo Police Chief Marcus Jones is not a fan of Jawando's plan.....
https://wjla.com/news/local/crime-law-enforcement-leaders-video-7news-interviews-montgomery-county-police-chief-marcus-jones-traffic-stops-traffic-fatalities-homicides#
A person who is in charge of an agency is not a fan of a plan to restrict what the agency can do? In other news, the sun rose in the east today.
Or…
A person with a firm understanding of policing / public safety is not a fan of a plan that lacks common sense and demonstrates little understanding of public safety needs.
I’m a teacher. This reminds me of times central office staff members who know nothing about the nuances of my job try to tell me how to do it. Their interruptions merely cause curriculum disruptions. This plan, by contrast, can actually cost lives.
Hahah, so true.
Anonymous
03/01/2023 18:25
Subject: Re:Mink and Jawando propose to limit pull over offenses in Moco
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:MoCo Police Chief Marcus Jones is not a fan of Jawando's plan.....
https://wjla.com/news/local/crime-law-enforcement-leaders-video-7news-interviews-montgomery-county-police-chief-marcus-jones-traffic-stops-traffic-fatalities-homicides#
A person who is in charge of an agency is not a fan of a plan to restrict what the agency can do? In other news, the sun rose in the east today.
Or…
A person with a firm understanding of policing / public safety is not a fan of a plan that lacks common sense and demonstrates little understanding of public safety needs.
I’m a teacher. This reminds me of times central office staff members who know nothing about the nuances of my job try to tell me how to do it. Their interruptions merely cause curriculum disruptions. This plan, by contrast, can actually cost lives.
MCPD independently decided to reduce the number of traffic stops they conduct to a third of the level they did pre pandemic. What reason did they give? Is it the vacancies in the department? No. Was it other work demands? No. Was it a directive from the Council? No. It is "the rhetoric". They are the ones costing lives, not some bill (that will never pass) that targets low level offenses.
Just like teachers aren't always right, neither are police. Look at the history of this country. We did wait for farmers to decide they didn't need slaves. We didn't wait for bus drivers to say they didn't need to segregate the buses. Community activism has driven a lot of really important change in this country. You're suggesting we dismiss them out of hand because they are not the police. That's not a reasonable position.
Anonymous
03/01/2023 17:34
Subject: Re:Mink and Jawando propose to limit pull over offenses in Moco
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:MoCo Police Chief Marcus Jones is not a fan of Jawando's plan.....
https://wjla.com/news/local/crime-law-enforcement-leaders-video-7news-interviews-montgomery-county-police-chief-marcus-jones-traffic-stops-traffic-fatalities-homicides#
A person who is in charge of an agency is not a fan of a plan to restrict what the agency can do? In other news, the sun rose in the east today.
Or…
A person with a firm understanding of policing / public safety is not a fan of a plan that lacks common sense and demonstrates little understanding of public safety needs.
I’m a teacher. This reminds me of times central office staff members who know nothing about the nuances of my job try to tell me how to do it. Their interruptions merely cause curriculum disruptions. This plan, by contrast, can actually cost lives.
Anonymous
03/01/2023 16:45
Subject: Mink and Jawando propose to limit pull over offenses in Moco
Who makes the best plans to reduce crime? Jawandon't
Anonymous
03/01/2023 16:38
Subject: Re:Mink and Jawando propose to limit pull over offenses in Moco
Anonymous wrote:MoCo Police Chief Marcus Jones is not a fan of Jawando's plan.....
https://wjla.com/news/local/crime-law-enforcement-leaders-video-7news-interviews-montgomery-county-police-chief-marcus-jones-traffic-stops-traffic-fatalities-homicides#
No one should be a fan of Jawando's plan...
Anonymous
03/01/2023 16:35
Subject: Re:Mink and Jawando propose to limit pull over offenses in Moco
Anonymous wrote:MoCo Police Chief Marcus Jones is not a fan of Jawando's plan.....
https://wjla.com/news/local/crime-law-enforcement-leaders-video-7news-interviews-montgomery-county-police-chief-marcus-jones-traffic-stops-traffic-fatalities-homicides#
A person who is in charge of an agency is not a fan of a plan to restrict what the agency can do? In other news, the sun rose in the east today.
Anonymous
03/01/2023 16:13
Subject: Re:Mink and Jawando propose to limit pull over offenses in Moco
MoCo Police Chief Marcus Jones is not a fan of Jawando's plan.....
https://wjla.com/news/local/crime-law-enforcement-leaders-video-7news-interviews-montgomery-county-police-chief-marcus-jones-traffic-stops-traffic-fatalities-homicides#
https://wjla.com/news/local/crime-law-enforcement-leaders-video-7news-interviews-montgomery-county-police-chief-marcus-jones-traffic-stops-traffic-fatalities-homicides#