Anonymous wrote:The implication when DCUM parents post that this year was a “bloodbath” (newsflash, I’ve been on here for 8 years and every year is the “hardest year ever”)
is that someone undeserving is taking their deserving kid’s spot.

8 years? Really? Post-Covid is nothing like pre-Covid. Nothing at all. I gave kids that applied before and after.

Test optional increased application numbers drastically. You now have 50k-90k applicants for an incoming class. Population is another issue. After 2026 the number of kids applying to college will drop off a cliff. It’s the wild Wild West right now.

Anonymous wrote:The implication when DCUM parents post that this year was a “bloodbath” (newsflash, I’ve been on here for 8 years and every year is the “hardest year ever”)
is that someone undeserving is taking their deserving kid’s spot.

+100. Essentially the same number of seats for the same number of applicants every year. More applications per and slightly less predictable, but when the dust settles, same as it ever was.

The implication when DCUM parents post that this year was a “bloodbath” (newsflash, I’ve been on here for 8 years and every year is the “hardest year ever”)
is that someone undeserving is taking their deserving kid’s spot.

When applying to colleges and universities, applying to at least 3 safeties is the most important. If a student accurately identifies & applies to 3 safeties, then the number of apps to other schools should not be a concern.

If up to me, I would limit students to 12 applications although 10 is also a reasonable limit.

Anonymous wrote:I wonder if schools in the 50-100 range are reporting yield from a larger percentage of higher stat students than usual.

It is difficult to compare aggregate data sets post-test optional.

Anecdotally, my guess is yes. Both my high school class of 2021 kids ended up at schools ranked around the 80s, where their test scores are well over the prior 75th percentile for their schools. One of them is in a fraternity and apparently it's well known that the sophomores in the fraternity are significantly "smarter" than the seniors.

Anonymous wrote:I wonder if schools in the 50-100 range are reporting yield from a larger percentage of higher stat students than usual.

This question is not clear.

Anonymous wrote:I wonder if schools in the 50-100 range are reporting yield from a larger percentage of higher stat students than usual.

I bet they are. They offered my son good merit last year (he said yes), and my daughter good merit this year (she’s awaiting all offers, but is interested).

I wonder if schools in the 50-100 range are reporting yield from a larger percentage of higher stat students than usual.

Or it’s true if you want a certain club sport that isn’t offered everywhere. It’s not academics, but it’s very important given that D1/D3 options aren’t available to most of these athletes. There may only be 3 schools in your state where your student could attend and still keep that important part of their life.

^^ the same is true if you want a public vet school, equine studies, architecture, etc. Virginia Tech us the only polytechnic school in the state

^^ and now it us too late to RD the other VA in-state schools (even if they had a comparable program)

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The VT thread is exactly what got me down his rabbit hole.

This! And please don't say DC can just go OOS somewhere else. Some of the most equivalent/appealing options are pretty far away because NC, FL, GA prioritize in state apps. And... now my family gets to pay OOS tuition plus the additional costs associated with those logistics because my very solid student is being shut out of VT for OOS apps.

Your kid doesn't have to go OOS as there are a number of other in-state options in Virginia. Maybe not as "appealing" as VT, but good schools nonetheless, including schools with engineering programs.

But VT is the only polytechnic university in the state. It has majors no other university in the Commonwealth has. It’s also too late to apply to other VA Universities even if another had a similar program.

DP. Maybe the applying to other VA schools should have happened at the same time as applying to VT?

See 23:59 above for answer. Students can afford only so many applications in their intended area of study. Counselors usually suggest 3 safeties, three targets, three reaches, etc. Some schools limit the student to 10 applications. In this case the counselor, student and parents thought VT was a lock and/or the only school in VA with the desired program. So now they must pay for OOS or private.

Strange post. Students aren’t limited to only applying to certain schools. Especially within their own state.

Not strange at all. Let’s say your advisor suggests six applications. You want aerospace engineering and are high stats. So you apply to Princeton, Cornell, two Ivies where parents are legacies, Georgia Tech, Purdue and Virginia Tech. You don’t get into Tech, so now you must go to OOS or private. There is no other comparable program on VA to Virginia Tech’s aerospace engineering program ( this hypothetical actually happened in our family)

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The VT thread is exactly what got me down his rabbit hole.

This! And please don't say DC can just go OOS somewhere else. Some of the most equivalent/appealing options are pretty far away because NC, FL, GA prioritize in state apps. And... now my family gets to pay OOS tuition plus the additional costs associated with those logistics because my very solid student is being shut out of VT for OOS apps.

Your kid doesn't have to go OOS as there are a number of other in-state options in Virginia. Maybe not as "appealing" as VT, but good schools nonetheless, including schools with engineering programs.

But VT is the only polytechnic university in the state. It has majors no other university in the Commonwealth has. It’s also too late to apply to other VA Universities even if another had a similar program.

DP. Maybe the applying to other VA schools should have happened at the same time as applying to VT?

See 23:59 above for answer. Students can afford only so many applications in their intended area of study. Counselors usually suggest 3 safeties, three targets, three reaches, etc. Some schools limit the student to 10 applications. In this case the counselor, student and parents thought VT was a lock and/or the only school in VA with the desired program. So now they must pay for OOS or private.

Strange post. Students aren’t limited to only applying to certain schools. Especially within their own state.

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The VT thread is exactly what got me down his rabbit hole.

This! And please don't say DC can just go OOS somewhere else. Some of the most equivalent/appealing options are pretty far away because NC, FL, GA prioritize in state apps. And... now my family gets to pay OOS tuition plus the additional costs associated with those logistics because my very solid student is being shut out of VT for OOS apps.

Your kid doesn't have to go OOS as there are a number of other in-state options in Virginia. Maybe not as "appealing" as VT, but good schools nonetheless, including schools with engineering programs.

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2021: VT acceptance: OOS 15,471. IS 18,953. The acceptance rate was 44% and 66.7% respectively. This is not the expected profile of a state flagship school. As other have repeated, VT has programs that are not offered by other VA state schools.

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The VT thread is exactly what got me down his rabbit hole.

This! And please don't say DC can just go OOS somewhere else. Some of the most equivalent/appealing options are pretty far away because NC, FL, GA prioritize in state apps. And... now my family gets to pay OOS tuition plus the additional costs associated with those logistics because my very solid student is being shut out of VT for OOS apps.

Your kid doesn't have to go OOS as there are a number of other in-state options in Virginia. Maybe not as "appealing" as VT, but good schools nonetheless, including schools with engineering programs.

But VT is the only polytechnic university in the state. It has majors no other university in the Commonwealth has. It’s also too late to apply to other VA Universities even if another had a similar program.

DP. Maybe the applying to other VA schools should have happened at the same time as applying to VT?

See 23:59 above for answer. Students can afford only so many applications in their intended area of study. Counselors usually suggest 3 safeties, three targets, three reaches, etc. Some schools limit the student to 10 applications. In this case the counselor, student and parents thought VT was a lock and/or the only school in VA with the desired program. So now they must pay for OOS or private.