Anonymous
Post 03/01/2023 12:12     Subject: 9 Mcps Antisemitic incidents since Friday
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How is 4 days suspension not punishing the culprits?


I think that’s a new punishment, post Whitman incident. Principals take their directions on suspensions from above. My guess is the JCRC told them to hold people accountable if they want to see change. I support the suspensions. Students need to know what to expect when they deface property and are hateful, and it can’t be a conversation only.


Four days suspensions are not mandated in any way. A student at my school received no consequences.


Can you provide a citation for this? I'd prefer not to buy into hearsay for these matters.
Anonymous
Post 03/01/2023 12:12     Subject: 9 Mcps Antisemitic incidents since Friday
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How is 4 days suspension not punishing the culprits?


I think that’s a new punishment, post Whitman incident. Principals take their directions on suspensions from above. My guess is the JCRC told them to hold people accountable if they want to see change. I support the suspensions. Students need to know what to expect when they deface property and are hateful, and it can’t be a conversation only.


Four days suspensions are not mandated in any way. A student at my school received no consequences.


But when was that? The four day suspension was toward the end of last week.
Anonymous
Post 03/01/2023 11:48     Subject: 9 Mcps Antisemitic incidents since Friday
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How is 4 days suspension not punishing the culprits?


I think that’s a new punishment, post Whitman incident. Principals take their directions on suspensions from above. My guess is the JCRC told them to hold people accountable if they want to see change. I support the suspensions. Students need to know what to expect when they deface property and are hateful, and it can’t be a conversation only.


Four days suspensions are not mandated in any way. A student at my school received no consequences.
Anonymous
Post 03/01/2023 11:23     Subject: 9 Mcps Antisemitic incidents since Friday
Anonymous wrote:How is 4 days suspension not punishing the culprits?


I think that’s a new punishment, post Whitman incident. Principals take their directions on suspensions from above. My guess is the JCRC told them to hold people accountable if they want to see change. I support the suspensions. Students need to know what to expect when they deface property and are hateful, and it can’t be a conversation only.
Anonymous
Post 03/01/2023 09:13     Subject: 9 Mcps Antisemitic incidents since Friday
How is 4 days suspension not punishing the culprits?
Anonymous
Post 02/28/2023 16:25     Subject: 9 Mcps Antisemitic incidents since Friday
Anonymous wrote:So unless this happens again this is basically swept under the rug except they say they are taking it seetoysly yet rule out punishing culprits


Sorry but if it doesn't happen again, how can it be swept under the rug exactly?
Anonymous
Post 02/28/2023 15:50     Subject: 9 Mcps Antisemitic incidents since Friday
So unless this happens again this is basically swept under the rug except they say they are taking it seetoysly yet rule out punishing culprits
Anonymous
Post 02/27/2023 19:51     Subject: 9 Mcps Antisemitic incidents since Friday
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Anonymous wrote:At the high school I teach at we have had one incident. The principal made an announcement but that is it.

Honestly, I think it is better to not give more attention to the issue. If we make a big deal about it, I think it would actually encourage kids to mess around more as an act of rebellion.

There is a huge lack of boundaries in school right now, so kids are doing more extreme acts in order to rebel and stand out.


Would you say it was just kids messing around if they were targeting black people or Hispanics or really any other minority?

Describing it this way really minimizes what is going on. These kids know what they’re doing.


Wondering if this attention has been somewhat counterproductive, possibly leading to increased incidents? Similar to why media doesn’t report the names of shooters, to discourage copycats from seeking fame in this way.


So should we ignore all hate crimes? Or just the ones against Jews.


Not drawing more attention than necessary is not the same as ignoring all hate crimes.


As a Jew, I’m really disturbed by your approach to this.
face it. People only care about antisemitism if it comes from the right.


I mean, this is 100% true. I’ve been saying this for years, but for some reason people are only now starting to realize it’s true. Jews also are not accepted as a group “worthy” of advocacy within the left-wing DEI community.


I find this really sad and it's the same for Asians.
Anonymous
Post 02/27/2023 19:49     Subject: Re:9 Mcps Antisemitic incidents since Friday
Anonymous wrote:Yes, there needs to be clear accountability and consequence. Kinda wonder why there isn't--what's so hard? And if not, leadership (esp. at the school principal level) is just lacking. The restorative justice type of engagements typically done are, as far as I know, total lip service/manualized (i.e. developed for profit and only nominally matching restorative justice practices as they should play out) type of interventions. To engage in true restorative justice is way beyond the scope of MCPS capacity.


MCPS central office directors tell principals what they can do. The fact that 2 kids at one middle school were suspended for four days for antisemitic graffiti last week means that that's what's happening now, barring something new happening.
Anonymous
Post 02/27/2023 19:48     Subject: Re:9 Mcps Antisemitic incidents since Friday
Anonymous wrote:In one of the middle school instances, the students got 4 day suspensions for drawing swastikas. That’s a change.

How do you know this? Did your school announce?
Anonymous
Post 02/27/2023 18:40     Subject: Re:9 Mcps Antisemitic incidents since Friday
Yes, there needs to be clear accountability and consequence. Kinda wonder why there isn't--what's so hard? And if not, leadership (esp. at the school principal level) is just lacking. The restorative justice type of engagements typically done are, as far as I know, total lip service/manualized (i.e. developed for profit and only nominally matching restorative justice practices as they should play out) type of interventions. To engage in true restorative justice is way beyond the scope of MCPS capacity.
Anonymous
Post 02/27/2023 11:43     Subject: Re:9 Mcps Antisemitic incidents since Friday
Even better would be to separate out the consequences. Like, x number of days for defacing property and x number of days for hate messaging. That way kids understand that both are wrong and punishable for different reasons.
Anonymous
Post 02/27/2023 10:47     Subject: Re:9 Mcps Antisemitic incidents since Friday
Anonymous wrote:In one of the middle school instances, the students got 4 day suspensions for drawing swastikas. That’s a change.

Good. Hope there’s an equal consequence for any graffiti.

Otherwise, kids will continue doing whatever gets the most attention.


Anonymous
Post 02/23/2023 22:13     Subject: Re:9 Mcps Antisemitic incidents since Friday
In one of the middle school instances, the students got 4 day suspensions for drawing swastikas. That’s a change.
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2023 21:51     Subject: Re:9 Mcps Antisemitic incidents since Friday
Anonymous wrote:I attended the new MCJEA - Montgomery County Jewish Educators Alliance Meeting today and was so impressed. This group was founded by an elementary Principal and a small group of like 18 staff from all 3 unions and central office and school based was added to do initial work. The meeting today provided opportunity for all voices to be heard and valued. They shared purpose and have planned a couple of events in the next couple months. Yes they will work to address antisemitism but also looking to provide resources to MCPS for instruction that are age appropriate. The meeting really was great and I felt like this group understands the urgency of the work and the importance of collaborating and not just say words but create actions too!

Any mention of consequences for criminal behavior?