Anonymous wrote:Houston is very international, diverse, and immigrant/transplant heavy. It never felt "good old boy" to me. Dallas is a little more "good old boy" but still diverse, transient, and international enough that it doesn't feel so bad compared to...I don't know...Birmingham or Shreveport or somewhere like that.

After evolving into cosmopolitan cities, Houston, Dallas or Austin are no longer a reflection of real Texas or south.

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Anonymous wrote:The true upper class? They aren't strivers. Striving is very middle class. Obsessing over getting your kid into Harvard? Very UMC, MC.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varsity_Blues_scandal

Like these people? Mostly White affluent people obsessed enough to go this far.

No one involved was actually upper class the way pp is using the term. If they were, their kids would have been development admits at the same schools they attended. At best, these were new money families who didn't understand how to legally work the system or who could afford to work the system the traditional way

Stop it. Troll thread is troll and old.
Stop extending it.

Anonymous wrote:The true upper class? They aren't strivers. Striving is very middle class. Obsessing over getting your kid into Harvard? Very UMC, MC.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varsity_Blues_scandal

Like these people? Mostly White affluent people obsessed enough to go this far.

The true upper class? They aren't strivers. Striving is very middle class. Obsessing over getting your kid into Harvard? Very UMC, MC.

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Anonymous wrote:There are absolutely rich people in Omaha, Milwaukee, Columbus, Birmingham and Detroit.

Of course.

I grew up in Milwaukee and the equivalent of this among the "Milwaukee elite" is Indiana University, CU Boulder, Miami of OH...

Interesting. I am originally from the Midwest, married a Midwesterner, and have lived on East coast now for nearly three decades. The elites in the Midwest cities I know (five across four states) want their kids at elite NE and CA schools as well as Duke, Emory, Vanderbilt. Some will end up at them - full pay geo diversity is still attractive - but some end up on PP's list.

I lived around the Midwest for decades. There are indeed a few people who want their kids to get a little Northeast polish. I lived in one rural town of 5000 where people were puzzled about kids going to Williams, Bates, & Smith. Those were true outliers. The more run-of-the-mill social climbers would pick Notre Dame, Northwestern, & Michigan.

I went to a New England slac. The richest people that I knew were from South Dakota and Wisconsin. They both spend a few years in Chicago post graduation, but have returned home to take over family businesses

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Anonymous wrote:There are absolutely rich people in Omaha, Milwaukee, Columbus, Birmingham and Detroit.

Of course.

I grew up in Milwaukee and the equivalent of this among the "Milwaukee elite" is Indiana University, CU Boulder, Miami of OH...

Interesting. I am originally from the Midwest, married a Midwesterner, and have lived on East coast now for nearly three decades. The elites in the Midwest cities I know (five across four states) want their kids at elite NE and CA schools as well as Duke, Emory, Vanderbilt. Some will end up at them - full pay geo diversity is still attractive - but some end up on PP's list.

I lived around the Midwest for decades. There are indeed a few people who want their kids to get a little Northeast polish. I lived in one rural town of 5000 where people were puzzled about kids going to Williams, Bates, & Smith. Those were true outliers. The more run-of-the-mill social climbers would pick Notre Dame, Northwestern, & Michigan.

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Anonymous wrote:There are absolutely rich people in Omaha, Milwaukee, Columbus, Birmingham and Detroit.

Of course.

I grew up in Milwaukee and the equivalent of this among the "Milwaukee elite" is Indiana University, CU Boulder, Miami of OH...

Interesting. I am originally from the Midwest, married a Midwesterner, and have lived on East coast now for nearly three decades. The elites in the Midwest cities I know (five across four states) want their kids at elite NE and CA schools as well as Duke, Emory, Vanderbilt. Some will end up at them - full pay geo diversity is still attractive - but some end up on PP's list.

This is the matriculation list for University School of Milwaukee which is the $$$ private school there.

https://www.usm.org/upperschool/matriculation

Anonymous wrote:Talking about kids of big sports hosts or F500 C-suite execs who live in the Midwest & South, and so on. Their kids are poised and gorgeous, go to University of Alabama or LSU, join top sororities and fraternities and have a relaxed demeanor. They’re so much fun to be around, unlike uptight DC policy schlubs. That is all.

You sound quite dumb! So I do not expect you to comprehend. So sorry for your kids and spouse.

Anonymous wrote:Affluent southern people generally don’t care, OP. Their kids go to Alabama, Auburn, Georgia, or Ole Miss where their family all attended and where they have board positions and influence. Parents actually teach their kids how to party and it’s considered an important part of college. The intellectual types might go to Hillsdale or W&L - if their parents did. Because a PP nailed it: there is a caste system and that plus nepotism is more important than anything there. Being in the right social circle is everything. You don’t need to go to Stanford to get a job at daddy’s firm. Who wants to be with people who aren’t influenced by their last name, exposed to all those liberal elites, and compete on merit for academics, sports, and social status when they can slide it to the top of everything close to home?

This this this. There is SO much wealth at these schools. I went to an SEC school and meetings kids with the same last name as some of the campus buildings wasn't that uncommon. The culture is that everyone in the family goes to the SEC school, moves back home, and gets a job through daddy's connections or joins the family business.

Affluent southern people generally don’t care, OP. Their kids go to Alabama, Auburn, Georgia, or Ole Miss where their family all attended and where they have board positions and influence. Parents actually teach their kids how to party and it’s considered an important part of college. The intellectual types might go to Hillsdale or W&L - if their parents did. Because a PP nailed it: there is a caste system and that plus nepotism is more important than anything there. Being in the right social circle is everything. You don’t need to go to Stanford to get a job at daddy’s firm. Who wants to be with people who aren’t influenced by their last name, exposed to all those liberal elites, and compete on merit for academics, sports, and social status when they can slide it to the top of everything close to home?

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Anonymous wrote:There are absolutely rich people in Omaha, Milwaukee, Columbus, Birmingham and Detroit.

Of course.

I grew up in Milwaukee and the equivalent of this among the "Milwaukee elite" is Indiana University, CU Boulder, Miami of OH...

Interesting. I am originally from the Midwest, married a Midwesterner, and have lived on East coast now for nearly three decades. The elites in the Midwest cities I know (five across four states) want their kids at elite NE and CA schools as well as Duke, Emory, Vanderbilt. Some will end up at them - full pay geo diversity is still attractive - but some end up on PP's list.

Houston is very international, diverse, and immigrant/transplant heavy. It never felt "good old boy" to me. Dallas is a little more "good old boy" but still diverse, transient, and international enough that it doesn't feel so bad compared to...I don't know...Birmingham or Shreveport or somewhere like that.

Anonymous wrote:There are absolutely rich people in Omaha, Milwaukee, Columbus, Birmingham and Detroit.

Of course.

I grew up in Milwaukee and the equivalent of this among the "Milwaukee elite" is Indiana University, CU Boulder, Miami of OH...

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Anonymous wrote:There are absolutely rich people in Omaha, Milwaukee, Columbus, Birmingham and Detroit.

These places have the old industrialist families. Old money wealth. DC doesn’t have this kind of family — there’s no industry here. There’s also professional wealth in these cities.

I’m from ny and went to school in Boston. There is definitely money in dc but it is often uptight money that isn’t even that much.

I do agree dc is where fun goes to die.