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Post 02/07/2023 15:13     Subject: Why do the rich vote Democrat?

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Anonymous wrote:Why do the wealthiest places in America - the Upper East Side, Scarsdale, Greenwich, Chevy Chase, Winnetka, Beverly Hills etc. - vote D? Don't they do better under Republican policies?


Why do people with few resources vote conservatively? As you suggest, liberal policies generally favor the disadvantaged.


Because they value their freedom? Because they know they can do it themselves? Because they don’t want to live on the government teat?



Being forced to give birth is the opposite of freedom.


No one is being forced. Abortion simply went back to the states. Oh, the drama!


Where certain states are now forcing girls and women, some of whom were raped, to forced births. Why do you ignore this fact?




Please give me a list, with names, of girls and women who cannot get abortions anywhere in the country.


if you want gynecological lists of women and girls, ask Ron Desantis.


I’m asking people here. Surely there should be thousands by now!


Who wants to get pregnant in this environment? Birthrate is what is declining. Probably by thousands and thousand by now,
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Post 02/07/2023 15:13     Subject: Why do the rich vote Democrat?

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Anonymous wrote:Why do the wealthiest places in America - the Upper East Side, Scarsdale, Greenwich, Chevy Chase, Winnetka, Beverly Hills etc. - vote D? Don't they do better under Republican policies?


Why do people with few resources vote conservatively? As you suggest, liberal policies generally favor the disadvantaged.


Because they value their freedom? Because they know they can do it themselves? Because they don’t want to live on the government teat?



Being forced to give birth is the opposite of freedom.


No one is being forced. Abortion simply went back to the states. Oh, the drama!


Where certain states are now forcing girls and women, some of whom were raped, to forced births. Why do you ignore this fact?




Please give me a list, with names, of girls and women who cannot get abortions anywhere in the country.


if you want gynecological lists of women and girls, ask Ron Desantis.


I’m asking people here. Surely there should be thousands by now!

And you think these women - now forced to be mothers - are going to out themselves and their unwanted children to the sadists in the forced birther movement? I guess when life is as expendable as it is to Republican forced birthers, you would have this shallow a view of things.
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Post 02/07/2023 15:09     Subject: Why do the rich vote Democrat?

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Anonymous wrote:Because Republicans are terrible. Anti science, anti vax, anti immigrant, anti POC, anti women.... because they took away women's rights while using tax dollars to pay for Viagra. Because Nixon. Iran Contra. WMD. Jan 6. What's the worst things Dems did, an intern BJ in 1998? OK


Letting the homeless and criminals take over the nation's Capital? Shutting down schools for a year because of something no worse than the flu? Forcing people to take a medical treatment to keep their jobs? All the transgender craziness? Flirting with WWIII?



NP. I have had the flu and Covid. Covid gave me heart problems, the flu did not. Just because you didn’t have a problem with Covid, doesn’t mean others didn’t. You can’t possibly be that self-centered.


Are you saying because Covid gave you heart problems, it was ok to shut down schools? In a healthy society we sacrifice adults to protect children, not the other way around.


Are you saying it is ok to expose every child in America to a virus that was unknown at the time and in hindsight is causing significant health issues (ie longcovid) to a large percentage of kids and adults in this country?


The powers that be had no problem doing that with the vaccine.


And?

The vaccine has proven to mitigate the impacts of COVID, thus sparing our most vulnerable and our front line healtcare workers from dying anymore from COVID. Most of the deaths now are GOP idiots who believe in anti-vax rhetoric.


I suggest you read Pfizer’s own documents.


I have personally posted a dozen rebuttals of your attempt to cast doubt on the highly safe and effective covid vaccine. You are a seriously confused person.

Rebuttals are just talk
Anonymous
Post 02/07/2023 15:08     Subject: Why do the rich vote Democrat?

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Anonymous wrote:Why do the wealthiest places in America - the Upper East Side, Scarsdale, Greenwich, Chevy Chase, Winnetka, Beverly Hills etc. - vote D? Don't they do better under Republican policies?


Why do people with few resources vote conservatively? As you suggest, liberal policies generally favor the disadvantaged.


Because they value their freedom? Because they know they can do it themselves? Because they don’t want to live on the government teat?



Being forced to give birth is the opposite of freedom.


No one is being forced. Abortion simply went back to the states. Oh, the drama!


Where certain states are now forcing girls and women, some of whom were raped, to forced births. Why do you ignore this fact?




Please give me a list, with names, of girls and women who cannot get abortions anywhere in the country.


if you want gynecological lists of women and girls, ask Ron Desantis.


I’m asking people here. Surely there should be thousands by now!
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Post 02/07/2023 15:08     Subject: Why do the rich vote Democrat?

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Anonymous wrote:Because Republicans are terrible. Anti science, anti vax, anti immigrant, anti POC, anti women.... because they took away women's rights while using tax dollars to pay for Viagra. Because Nixon. Iran Contra. WMD. Jan 6. What's the worst things Dems did, an intern BJ in 1998? OK


Letting the homeless and criminals take over the nation's Capital? Shutting down schools for a year because of something no worse than the flu? Forcing people to take a medical treatment to keep their jobs? All the transgender craziness? Flirting with WWIII?



NP. I have had the flu and Covid. Covid gave me heart problems, the flu did not. Just because you didn’t have a problem with Covid, doesn’t mean others didn’t. You can’t possibly be that self-centered.


Are you saying because Covid gave you heart problems, it was ok to shut down schools? In a healthy society we sacrifice adults to protect children, not the other way around.


Not that poster, but, yes. Boomer lives are worth a year of school shut downs to me. I don't like that schools shut down, but it was a reasonable response. Maybe all the teachers didn't want to be "sacrificed" for your children!


They wouldn’t have had to teach anymore. They could quit. No one put a gun to their head to force them to still teach.


Just like no one forced you to get vaxxed.


So you agree, teachers could simply quit, rather than be exposed, right?
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Post 02/07/2023 15:06     Subject: Why do the rich vote Democrat?

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Anonymous wrote:Why do the wealthiest places in America - the Upper East Side, Scarsdale, Greenwich, Chevy Chase, Winnetka, Beverly Hills etc. - vote D? Don't they do better under Republican policies?


Why do people with few resources vote conservatively? As you suggest, liberal policies generally favor the disadvantaged.


Because they value their freedom? Because they know they can do it themselves? Because they don’t want to live on the government teat?



Being forced to give birth is the opposite of freedom.


No one is being forced. Abortion simply went back to the states. Oh, the drama!


Where certain states are now forcing girls and women, some of whom were raped, to forced births. Why do you ignore this fact?


Please give me a list, with names, of girls and women who cannot get abortions anywhere in the country.



google is your friend with all sorts of stories from Louisiana, Ohio, Texas etc.


And they have no access anywhere in the country? None?
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Post 02/07/2023 15:06     Subject: Why do the rich vote Democrat?

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Anonymous wrote:Why do the wealthiest places in America - the Upper East Side, Scarsdale, Greenwich, Chevy Chase, Winnetka, Beverly Hills etc. - vote D? Don't they do better under Republican policies?


Why do people with few resources vote conservatively? As you suggest, liberal policies generally favor the disadvantaged.


Because they value their freedom? Because they know they can do it themselves? Because they don’t want to live on the government teat?



Being forced to give birth is the opposite of freedom.


No one is being forced. Abortion simply went back to the states. Oh, the drama!


Call it back to the states, call it drama, call it whatever you want, the voters understand exactly what it meant and it drove voters rich and poor to vote democratic in the midterms and that will continue.


You honestly think it was abortion that won the midterms for the Dems? I suggest you start looking at the court cases and discovery process in Maricopa. Start there. There’s more


Yes, abortion was absolutely the determing factor. If you don't understand this (you can see the exit polling for verification) then you need to get out of your bubble. There is ZERO proof of any issues with voting in the areas suggested. None.


People could not vote Election Day. If these people had been poor, black and rural, leftists would have lost their minds
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Post 02/07/2023 15:04     Subject: Why do the rich vote Democrat?

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Anonymous wrote:Because Republicans are terrible. Anti science, anti vax, anti immigrant, anti POC, anti women.... because they took away women's rights while using tax dollars to pay for Viagra. Because Nixon. Iran Contra. WMD. Jan 6. What's the worst things Dems did, an intern BJ in 1998? OK


Letting the homeless and criminals take over the nation's Capital? Shutting down schools for a year because of something no worse than the flu? Forcing people to take a medical treatment to keep their jobs? All the transgender craziness? Flirting with WWIII?



NP. I have had the flu and Covid. Covid gave me heart problems, the flu did not. Just because you didn’t have a problem with Covid, doesn’t mean others didn’t. You can’t possibly be that self-centered.


Are you saying because Covid gave you heart problems, it was ok to shut down schools? In a healthy society we sacrifice adults to protect children, not the other way around.


Not that poster, but, yes. Boomer lives are worth a year of school shut downs to me. I don't like that schools shut down, but it was a reasonable response. Maybe all the teachers didn't want to be "sacrificed" for your children!


They wouldn’t have had to teach anymore. They could quit. No one put a gun to their head to force them to still teach.


Which plays into the whole GOP undermining our schools and education in general. GOP depends on uneducated masses to support their gaslighting and lies.


But that’s what the Dems are saying about every American who were concerned about the vaccine. They were told ‘just quit your job, no one is forcing you’. Same for teachers.


No they didn't. Are you forgetting who was president when everything shut down? Hint, it was March 2020. The election was in November 2020. Biden got the vaccines out to the masses by April 2021. Things generally reopened thereafter, though many PRIVATE businesses continued to work remotely given Zoom and other online tools.


President was highly misled, we find out now. Liars, from the NIH on down and across. I agree - Biden is responsible for the injuries and deaths
Anonymous
Post 02/07/2023 14:57     Subject: Why do the rich vote Democrat?

You must be too young and uneducated to know it used to be the opposite OP. Once the Rs started focusing on cultural wars vs. real issues, the educated/wealthy votes started voting in greater numbers on the D side .

Your question should be why the poor + MC vote vs. their self- interests by voting Republican.
Anonymous
Post 02/07/2023 14:53     Subject: Why do the rich vote Democrat?

I am a coastal elite. Why do I vote democrat:

1. I understand what the debt ceiling is and that Republicans using it as a bargaining chip is effectively pointing a gun to the head of the economy instead of negotiating in good faith. When the republicans did that under Obama I permanently shifted toward the democrats.

2. A large portion of the republican base are religious zealots who want to break down the barrier between church and state. Those people scare me more than the nuts on the left.

3. Throughout my life, the economy has generally performed better under democrats.

4. W's decision to enter Iraq was the dumbest decision by a president in my lifetime. Many democrats stupidly supported it, but they were not the impetus behind that horrible mistake.

5. Trump and trumpists do not support the democratic process when they lose. This is a potentially republic-ending flaw on the right.

6. Republicans post-George H.W. Bush do not actually care about fiscal responsibility.
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Post 02/07/2023 14:32     Subject: Re:Why do the rich vote Democrat?

Anonymous wrote:Because most of them are stupid and didn't have to work hard for that money. They probably love cheap labor and love letting in illegals and bowing down to China. When you see your tax dollars going to house illegals in hotels in NYC it doesn't make you want to pay more taxes.


I would submit there is more inherited wealth on the right and the belief of pulling one's self up by the bootstraps despite starting on third base, like Trump and most of the GOP senators who went to Ivy league schools and gaslight Americans every day.
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Post 02/07/2023 14:29     Subject: Re:Why do the rich vote Democrat?

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Anonymous wrote:Because most of them are stupid and didn't have to work hard for that money. They probably love cheap labor and love letting in illegals and bowing down to China. When you see your tax dollars going to house illegals in hotels in NYC it doesn't make you want to pay more taxes.


You've described rich Republicans as well

You ever wonder why the US Chamber of Commerce was so mad when Bush wanted immigration reform?


Seriously. PP why in the world do you think this is only a problem of wealthy Democrats??!

Eat — and tax!! — the rich. No matter who they vote for.
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Post 02/07/2023 14:19     Subject: Re:Why do the rich vote Democrat?

Anonymous wrote:Because most of them are stupid and didn't have to work hard for that money. They probably love cheap labor and love letting in illegals and bowing down to China. When you see your tax dollars going to house illegals in hotels in NYC it doesn't make you want to pay more taxes.


You've described rich Republicans as well

You ever wonder why the US Chamber of Commerce was so mad when Bush wanted immigration reform?
Anonymous
Post 02/07/2023 14:11     Subject: Re:Why do the rich vote Democrat?

Because most of them are stupid and didn't have to work hard for that money. They probably love cheap labor and love letting in illegals and bowing down to China. When you see your tax dollars going to house illegals in hotels in NYC it doesn't make you want to pay more taxes.
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Post 02/07/2023 14:01     Subject: Why do the rich vote Democrat?