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Anonymous wrote:https://www.aamc.org/news-insights/medical-school-applicants-and-enrollments-hit-record-highs-underrepresented-minorities-lead-surge

Number of applications is up but acceptances have steadily increased. Does not say anything about the most important piece which is the number of *qualified* applicants. Increased apps does not necessarily mean increased competition if most of those people are not well qualified which is usually the case.

But, thousands of rejected people are “qualified.” There still are not enough seats, but that is largely Congress’ fault.

What makes you think that everyone who wants to be a doctor and is qualified should get a seat? This isn’t public kindergarten. Schools are allowed to select the best applicants. It’s better for everyone to keep quality high.

They are making worse by admitting a bunch robots who have never even had a real job or done anything that wasn’t related to getting them into med school.

You don’t know what you’re talking about. My medical school class had people who had backpacked the world, gotten masters in other subjects, done fellowships abroad, been in the Peace Corps, been in Teach for America, worked for NGOs, one had been a priest, several classical musicians, a former model, a mountain climber, an internationally ranked swimmer.

And who made up the other 95% of the class? And, a lot of the unique activities you mentioned are performed by rich kids who do them to set themselves apart.

Anonymous wrote:I’m a doctor and the biggest change I see isn’t in who becomes a doctor it’s in their attitude during training. When I trained you wouldn’t dream of not knowing everything about your patient even if woken up at 3am, and you wouldn’t dream of leaving as long as your senior was still there. Today’s residents think nothing of saying “I don’t know, I’m just covering that patient on call” or leaving a shift before their seniors do.

Anonymous wrote:I’m a doctor and the biggest change I see isn’t in who becomes a doctor it’s in their attitude during training. When I trained you wouldn’t dream of not knowing everything about your patient even if woken up at 3am, and you wouldn’t dream of leaving as long as your senior was still there. Today’s residents think nothing of saying “I don’t know, I’m just covering that patient on call” or leaving a shift before their seniors do.

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Anonymous wrote:Not really long ago especially when you consider how long it takes to produce a fully finished doctor (medical school, internship, residency & fellowship then a first job). You are conveniently ignoring a third possibility which is that you are mistaken.

Or you are. There are many recent articles and studies on this. You are just pointing to your anecdotal experience from over a decade ago. Times have changed and they have changed most drastically in the past five years.

Anonymous wrote:Not really long ago especially when you consider how long it takes to produce a fully finished doctor (medical school, internship, residency & fellowship then a first job). You are conveniently ignoring a third possibility which is that you are mistaken.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.aamc.org/news-insights/medical-school-applicants-and-enrollments-hit-record-highs-underrepresented-minorities-lead-surge

Number of applications is up but acceptances have steadily increased. Does not say anything about the most important piece which is the number of *qualified* applicants. Increased apps does not necessarily mean increased competition if most of those people are not well qualified which is usually the case.

But, thousands of rejected people are “qualified.” There still are not enough seats, but that is largely Congress’ fault.

What makes you think that everyone who wants to be a doctor and is qualified should get a seat? This isn’t public kindergarten. Schools are allowed to select the best applicants. It’s better for everyone to keep quality high.

They are making worse by admitting a bunch robots who have never even had a real job or done anything that wasn’t related to getting them into med school.

You don’t know what you’re talking about. My medical school class had people who had backpacked the world, gotten masters in other subjects, done fellowships abroad, been in the Peace Corps, been in Teach for America, worked for NGOs, one had been a priest, several classical musicians, a former model, a mountain climber, an internationally ranked swimmer.

And who made up the other 95% of the class? And, a lot of the unique activities you mentioned are performed by rich kids who do them to set themselves apart.

Actually rich kids were in the vast minority and this is generally true. The vast majority of my class and medical school were extremely smart and hard working ambitious kids from very middle class families, who had attended public schools and been top of the class at their undergraduate state universities. Many were doing dual MD/PhD degrees that covered their tuition and many others committed to military service and public service and underserved areas to help pay it. Several were already married and some were parents. Some had parents who were farmers. Some were the first in their families to attend college. One had been a teenage mother. There was also a small number of phenomenal people from outside the country who somehow got into one the nation’s top medical schools from Uganda, Martinique and a few other places. My closest friend had been raised in foster care by someone who sexually abused her. Her work now makes national headlines. You sound very resentful.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.aamc.org/news-insights/medical-school-applicants-and-enrollments-hit-record-highs-underrepresented-minorities-lead-surge

Number of applications is up but acceptances have steadily increased. Does not say anything about the most important piece which is the number of *qualified* applicants. Increased apps does not necessarily mean increased competition if most of those people are not well qualified which is usually the case.

But, thousands of rejected people are “qualified.” There still are not enough seats, but that is largely Congress’ fault.

What makes you think that everyone who wants to be a doctor and is qualified should get a seat? This isn’t public kindergarten. Schools are allowed to select the best applicants. It’s better for everyone to keep quality high.

They are making worse by admitting a bunch robots who have never even had a real job or done anything that wasn’t related to getting them into med school.

You don’t know what you’re talking about. My medical school class had people who had backpacked the world, gotten masters in other subjects, done fellowships abroad, been in the Peace Corps, been in Teach for America, worked for NGOs, one had been a priest, several classical musicians, a former model, a mountain climber, an internationally ranked swimmer.

And who made up the other 95% of the class? And, a lot of the unique activities you mentioned are performed by rich kids who do them to set themselves apart.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.aamc.org/news-insights/medical-school-applicants-and-enrollments-hit-record-highs-underrepresented-minorities-lead-surge

Number of applications is up but acceptances have steadily increased. Does not say anything about the most important piece which is the number of *qualified* applicants. Increased apps does not necessarily mean increased competition if most of those people are not well qualified which is usually the case.

But, thousands of rejected people are “qualified.” There still are not enough seats, but that is largely Congress’ fault.

What makes you think that everyone who wants to be a doctor and is qualified should get a seat? This isn’t public kindergarten. Schools are allowed to select the best applicants. It’s better for everyone to keep quality high.

They are making worse by admitting a bunch robots who have never even had a real job or done anything that wasn’t related to getting them into med school.

You don’t know what you’re talking about. My medical school class had people who had backpacked the world, gotten masters in other subjects, done fellowships abroad, been in the Peace Corps, been in Teach for America, worked for NGOs, one had been a priest, several classical musicians, a former model, a mountain climber, an internationally ranked swimmer.