Anonymous
Post 01/14/2023 09:22     Subject: Re:BASIS high school versus middle school

Anonymous wrote:The question above is a no-brainer. BASIS DC and Arizona HQ aren't standing in the way way of new students enrolling after 6th grade (generally half a dozen spots for younger sibs).

In Arizona, new BASIS students can enter in any grade, but aren't necessarily allowed to advance to the grade above the one they just completed at a different school on arrival. No, they're given placement tests in each core subject and only permitted to enter at the grade level they've tested into per the BASIS curriculum. New BASIS students in AZ are commonly required to repeat one, or even two or three grades under this entry system. I know this because I have a nephew who had to repeat 7th grade when he started at a BASIS AZ school.

DC politicians are the problem. For more than a decade now, DC pols, particularly the ed czar/mayor haven't been willing to countenance what amounts to a BASIS test-in system.


Mostly correct. The only thing you got wrong is that the system BASIS uses in AZ is not "test in". Those kids are already in. They are merely using placement tests to put kids in appropriate classes for their current academic standing. DC pols/Mayor/progressives have decided that social promotion is the way forward. BASIS doesn't do social promotion. To do so would turn logic on its head: every kid from 6th grade up has to take and pass a comprehensive exam to advance to the next grade, but new kids are permitted to enter the next grade one or two grade levels behind?
Anonymous
Post 01/14/2023 08:48     Subject: Re:BASIS high school versus middle school

At least the BASIS DC high school is a first rate test prep factory!
Anonymous
Post 01/14/2023 04:35     Subject: Re:BASIS high school versus middle school

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I wasn't alone. I was part of two different groups of parents asking admins for a little funding for extra curriculars parents were financing to the tune of hundreds, even thousands of dollars. The kids involved were representing BASIS at competitions out of state. We weren't given the time of day. Current school is a private.


FWIW this was true at my NYC public magnet as well. (One that one poster frequently mentions as a school BASIS can’t hope to live up to!) Fabulous academic extracurricular options which the school did not contribute to the cost of other than providing a room & allowing them to count towards a teacher’s clubs/extracurricular supervision quota. We fundraised some and applied for grants some and got some fee waivers for individual FARMS-eligible students, but primarily, our parents paid a ton. With limited public school budgets, I don’t think that is that unusual.


Limited public school budgets? DCPS has been pouring vast resources into one Taj Mahal HS and MS building renovation after another since Michelle Rhee, for facilities that sit more than half empty years after they were gutted and redone (Dunbar, Cardozo, Eliot-Hine etc.). What's more, DCPS per capita outlays are among the highest in the country. Meanwhile, charters like BASIS are cash-strapped, yet stakeholders don't organize to push back, don't vote out DC city council members and mayor who don't give a darn.

I'm not letting the BASIS franchise off the hook on the issue of weak financial support for ECs like you are. AZ doesn't encourage parents to organize and fundraise to support ECs or apply for grants. There are no BASIS PTAs, teachers can't unionize and that's how franchise leaders want it. The current BASIS HOS is particularly adept at shooting down nascent parent initiatives (I think I know which EC the poster above is referring to). The program is little more than a test prep factory, particularly in DC, without the ambition to be more. If that's what you want for your teens in a HS experience because your alternatives are worse, go for it.
Anonymous
Post 01/14/2023 01:01     Subject: Re:BASIS high school versus middle school

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I wasn't alone. I was part of two different groups of parents asking admins for a little funding for extra curriculars parents were financing to the tune of hundreds, even thousands of dollars. The kids involved were representing BASIS at competitions out of state. We weren't given the time of day. Current school is a private.


FWIW this was true at my NYC public magnet as well. (One that one poster frequently mentions as a school BASIS can’t hope to live up to!) Fabulous academic extracurricular options which the school did not contribute to the cost of other than providing a room & allowing them to count towards a teacher’s clubs/extracurricular supervision quota. We fundraised some and applied for grants some and got some fee waivers for individual FARMS-eligible students, but primarily, our parents paid a ton. With limited public school budgets, I don’t think that is that unusual.


Hunter College?
Anonymous
Post 01/13/2023 19:35     Subject: Re:BASIS high school versus middle school

Anonymous wrote:I wasn't alone. I was part of two different groups of parents asking admins for a little funding for extra curriculars parents were financing to the tune of hundreds, even thousands of dollars. The kids involved were representing BASIS at competitions out of state. We weren't given the time of day. Current school is a private.


FWIW this was true at my NYC public magnet as well. (One that one poster frequently mentions as a school BASIS can’t hope to live up to!) Fabulous academic extracurricular options which the school did not contribute to the cost of other than providing a room & allowing them to count towards a teacher’s clubs/extracurricular supervision quota. We fundraised some and applied for grants some and got some fee waivers for individual FARMS-eligible students, but primarily, our parents paid a ton. With limited public school budgets, I don’t think that is that unusual.
Anonymous
Post 01/13/2023 18:40     Subject: Re:BASIS high school versus middle school

The only way BASIS admits students from the lottery beyond 5th grade is if the school loses at least 135 students from the prior year. If so, the school will begin trying to compensate the size of the overall student body by admitting from the waitlist in 6th grade and will move up the grades from there if spaces aren’t filled. Generally it will be 6th graders with a sibling preference who have the best chance of getting in outside of 5th grade. However, the attrition at BASIS decreases every year making it less and less likely the school will ever admit beyond 5th grade again.
Anonymous
Post 01/13/2023 10:13     Subject: Re:BASIS high school versus middle school

Anonymous wrote:My understanding is that they have a % that leave and they do not back fill...or actually is that how they determine the 5th grade seat #?


That is how they figure out the 5th grade seats. I believe they cap 5th at 135 and if there were more seats to fill they would start offering to 6th graders.
Anonymous
Post 01/13/2023 10:13     Subject: Re:BASIS high school versus middle school

The question above is a no-brainer. BASIS DC and Arizona HQ aren't standing in the way way of new students enrolling after 6th grade (generally half a dozen spots for younger sibs).

In Arizona, new BASIS students can enter in any grade, but aren't necessarily allowed to advance to the grade above the one they just completed at a different school on arrival. No, they're given placement tests in each core subject and only permitted to enter at the grade level they've tested into per the BASIS curriculum. New BASIS students in AZ are commonly required to repeat one, or even two or three grades under this entry system. I know this because I have a nephew who had to repeat 7th grade when he started at a BASIS AZ school.

DC politicians are the problem. For more than a decade now, DC pols, particularly the ed czar/mayor haven't been willing to countenance what amounts to a BASIS test-in system.
Anonymous
Post 01/13/2023 10:10     Subject: Re:BASIS high school versus middle school

My understanding is that they have a % that leave and they do not back fill...or actually is that how they determine the 5th grade seat #?
Anonymous
Post 01/13/2023 10:03     Subject: Re:BASIS high school versus middle school

Anonymous wrote:Will BASIS ever consider allowing kids to attend that didn't start in 5th? Wouldn't they get more funding by increased head count and possibly help this financial issue a bit?


They have a hard cap of 670 kids that can fit in the building (that they meet every year)- so increasing head count is not an issue for them.
Anonymous
Post 01/13/2023 09:27     Subject: Re:BASIS high school versus middle school

Will BASIS ever consider allowing kids to attend that didn't start in 5th? Wouldn't they get more funding by increased head count and possibly help this financial issue a bit?
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2023 19:23     Subject: Re:BASIS high school versus middle school

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Latin isn't a school with a strong controlling streak. Families can breathe free there.

Latin's HS offers far more flexibility in its curriculum than BASIS and their course work is spread out over four years, not three. BASIS academics are undoubtedly better, but constant test pressure in 9th, 10th and 11th grades, a narrow focus on AP prep, and aloof leadership can become a real drag even for the strongest students.

We have longtime neighbors/close friends whose kid was admitted to any Ivy from Latin after applying Early Decision in Oct of a gap year. She went into college application season with as many high AP exam scores (mostly in humanities subjects) as the highest-performing BASIS Ivy and MIT-bound seniors. To each his, her or their own.


Lol. More conclusions based on anecdote.

Based on test scores and other data, Latin doesn’t even come close to BASIS.


Give it up. Some kids/families do better at Latin than BASIS. Tough to accept, yea.
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2023 19:22     Subject: Re:BASIS high school versus middle school

I wasn't alone. I was part of two different groups of parents asking admins for a little funding for extra curriculars parents were financing to the tune of hundreds, even thousands of dollars. The kids involved were representing BASIS at competitions out of state. We weren't given the time of day. Current school is a private.
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2023 18:19     Subject: Re:BASIS high school versus middle school

Anonymous wrote:If BASIS wants to improve retention, the franchise needs to ensure that the DC program is better led and funded. We left after the difficult current head shut us down over a minor request for this or that one too many times. We got tired of being told that there was no funding for certain extra curriculars. We had to pay for activities ourselves to represent BASIS outside of DC, to the tune of thousands of dollars, mainly in travel costs.

I have a sibling whose kids have attended one of the original Arizona campuses for the past 6 or 7 years. It sounds to us like the difference between the way the Arizona campus is run and the DC campus is run is night and day. My siblings children have been permitted to study modern languages at school since 5th grade, including at the advanced level in middle school and the college level in high school. They've been given instrumental music lessons during the school day for years, and play in a school orchestra that competes at the local, state and regional levels. Their program offers far more high quality electives and low cost extra curriculars than BASIS DC, and classes don't end in 11th grade.

Sounds to us like the DC campus gets the short end of the stick in a big way in many respects. I don't know the political ins and outs.


Not surprised that you left BASIS after harassing the administration with a multitude of minor requests that they declined to grant. I am sure that you are really popular at your current school.
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2023 18:14     Subject: Re:BASIS high school versus middle school

Anonymous wrote:Latin isn't a school with a strong controlling streak. Families can breathe free there.

Latin's HS offers far more flexibility in its curriculum than BASIS and their course work is spread out over four years, not three. BASIS academics are undoubtedly better, but constant test pressure in 9th, 10th and 11th grades, a narrow focus on AP prep, and aloof leadership can become a real drag even for the strongest students.

We have longtime neighbors/close friends whose kid was admitted to any Ivy from Latin after applying Early Decision in Oct of a gap year. She went into college application season with as many high AP exam scores (mostly in humanities subjects) as the highest-performing BASIS Ivy and MIT-bound seniors. To each his, her or their own.


Lol. More conclusions based on anecdote.

Based on test scores and other data, Latin doesn’t even come close to BASIS.